British Parliament votes today on smoking ban
Feb 14th, 2006, 08:42 AM
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"I know that I should think it's a good thing - have been trying to give up for years - but at the same time I'm almost terrified!! I spend half my life in pubs, what on earth am I going to do?!?!"
I sympathize with that terrified feeling, as I went through something similar years agao for the opposite reason, when I had to give up going to most bars with my smoking friends because I gave up smoking and couldn't take the smell.
I was so thrilled when we got smoke free bars here in NY and I could once again go out for drinks with pals! But I learned to cope with the inconvenience over the years, and now the pendulum has finally swung my (our) way, at long last!
Good luck finding ways to deal with it.!
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"I know that I should think it's a good thing - have been trying to give up for years - but at the same time I'm almost terrified!! I spend half my life in pubs, what on earth am I going to do?!?!"
I sympathize with that terrified feeling, as I went through something similar years agao for the opposite reason, when I had to give up going to most bars with my smoking friends because I gave up smoking and couldn't take the smell.
I was so thrilled when we got smoke free bars here in NY and I could once again go out for drinks with pals! But I learned to cope with the inconvenience over the years, and now the pendulum has finally swung my (our) way, at long last!
Good luck finding ways to deal with it.!
Feb 14th, 2006, 08:44 AM
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They just signed into law the smoking ban in New Jersey, to include private clubs. The only exception is the Casino floors. The ban goes into effect on 15 April.
All the cigar smokers are whining about where they are going to go to smoke their cigars. It was totally unacceptable for me to suggest they smoke their cigars at home. Surely their wives wouldn't mind.
All the cigar smokers are whining about where they are going to go to smoke their cigars. It was totally unacceptable for me to suggest they smoke their cigars at home. Surely their wives wouldn't mind.
Feb 14th, 2006, 09:32 AM
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Intrepid1, you know not whereof you speak.
First, I didn't mention toilets, because I know they lead to the bin. This is about the wash basin.
Second, every airliner has air leaks in it totaling more than a square foot in area, including the seals around the main doors (which you can hear hissing when you walk by). Fortunately, the pressurization system (bleed air from the turbines) vastly more than compensate for it. An airplane's wash basin drains into the gray-water sump which is held at a pressure lower than that of the cabin by a connection to the outside.
Third, the idea that a small hole in an airliner will cause the contents to be sucked out is a myth that has been thoroughly debunked many, many times. Start with this article, with special attention to the bullet points following the end of the paragraph:
http://tinyurl.com/eyepy
First, I didn't mention toilets, because I know they lead to the bin. This is about the wash basin.
Second, every airliner has air leaks in it totaling more than a square foot in area, including the seals around the main doors (which you can hear hissing when you walk by). Fortunately, the pressurization system (bleed air from the turbines) vastly more than compensate for it. An airplane's wash basin drains into the gray-water sump which is held at a pressure lower than that of the cabin by a connection to the outside.
Third, the idea that a small hole in an airliner will cause the contents to be sucked out is a myth that has been thoroughly debunked many, many times. Start with this article, with special attention to the bullet points following the end of the paragraph:
http://tinyurl.com/eyepy
Feb 15th, 2006, 07:09 AM
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What, you think when the crew closes the doors after the passengers board, all the air stays inside until they're opened again? Here's a Boeing paper
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/cab...entilation.pdf
where you will find that twenty cubic feet of air, half of it from outside, is introduced into the cabin for each passenger every minute, resulting in a complete cabin air exchange every two or three minutes.
Airliner cabins leak like sieves, and the manufacturers and operators don't worry about it. Neither do I.
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/cab...entilation.pdf
where you will find that twenty cubic feet of air, half of it from outside, is introduced into the cabin for each passenger every minute, resulting in a complete cabin air exchange every two or three minutes.
Airliner cabins leak like sieves, and the manufacturers and operators don't worry about it. Neither do I.
Feb 15th, 2006, 07:17 AM
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Introduced air and air exchanges are hardly the same thing as sudden de-pressurization and whether or not you worry about this or anything else hardly matters in the grander scheme of things.
We've disagreed before and no doubt we will again..and yes, you can program your handheld so you don't forget it.
We've disagreed before and no doubt we will again..and yes, you can program your handheld so you don't forget it.
Feb 15th, 2006, 07:20 AM
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Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile
While you've a lucifer to light your fag, smile, boys, that's the style
What's the use of worrying? It's never worth your while...soooooo
Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile.
Lucifer = match
fag = cigarette
Vintage 1915 -- and they killed more men than the Germans. And they still do.
While you've a lucifer to light your fag, smile, boys, that's the style
What's the use of worrying? It's never worth your while...soooooo
Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile.
Lucifer = match
fag = cigarette
Vintage 1915 -- and they killed more men than the Germans. And they still do.
Feb 15th, 2006, 07:41 AM
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If you want to change the subject to sudden depressurization, go ahead and talk to yourself.
This exchange began with my musing on whether the negative pressure in the sink drain would carry smoke out of the lavatory.
Why don't we both just shut up and try it?
This exchange began with my musing on whether the negative pressure in the sink drain would carry smoke out of the lavatory.
Why don't we both just shut up and try it?
