Bodenmais, Bavaria
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Well, someone has to answer. Heres the link to all the hotels.
http://www.bodenmais.de/de/fr_set.htm
Its not a place where you will find many foreign tourists, so room prices and food are still reasonable. Americans tend to pay ridiculously overpriced bills when it comes to hotels.
Dont pay more than 30€ per person. Dont spoil prices for the rest of us! All the hotels an pensions will be nice and clean, so it really isnt such a difficult choice!!!
http://www.bodenmais.de/de/fr_set.htm
Its not a place where you will find many foreign tourists, so room prices and food are still reasonable. Americans tend to pay ridiculously overpriced bills when it comes to hotels.
Dont pay more than 30€ per person. Dont spoil prices for the rest of us! All the hotels an pensions will be nice and clean, so it really isnt such a difficult choice!!!
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Thanks, we have already checked that site, we were just wondering if anyone had a particular favorite of the private houses. We have travelled through some of the other smaller towns and we are expecting to pay about 17 euros per person.
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Great, so "up" this thread a few more times, there must be some folks who can make recommendations
. Good you going to the Bavarian Forest, it far more typical for Bavaria than all this "romantic road" nonsense. Rural Bavaria at its best!
Have fun.
. Good you going to the Bavarian Forest, it far more typical for Bavaria than all this "romantic road" nonsense. Rural Bavaria at its best! Have fun.
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logos 999: I'm more than happy to skip the Romantic Rd and see some other parts of Bavaria. Can you give me some suggestions about places I could go without a car? Thanks. Also, I'm more than happy to keep inflation down in Bavaria and pay less than 30 Euro a person. I always try my best to pay less!! This is one American who only gets abroad by being careful of what she pays. I seldom go to the 4 star establishments. My traveling cheap pattern was established years ago with Europe on $5 a day, though I do opt for a few more luxuries than I did in the late 60s and 70s. An ensuite room is nice as is a clean room. I think I have a lot of American, Australian, Canadian, English, etc. friends in Fodorland who travel like I do.
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@annetti
Difficult to find a start
It you dont have a car, you choice is more limited. One of my favourite places would be Regensburg (take a walk along the danube, look for the romain remains, roman bridge, museum, Kepler history, historic downtown. Only few tourists. Straubing is nice too!
Both places where ordinary people live and you wont get ripped off. Eichstätt is great to but you may find the smaller places nearby (Beilngries and Riedenburg) more loveley. The monastry and the beer at Riedenburg are more impressive resp. better than Andechs. Visit the Eichstätt prehistoric museum and see if you find something in the stone pit there
Take the boat tour from Eichstädt up the Altmühl River. The Holledau is the planets largest hop growing area. The Asparagus from Schrobenhausen is world famous. I find Ingolstadt isnt that intersting.
Without a car you choice will be limited Regenburg and Eichstätt via Ingolstadt would be possible. The area where Jeri B goes is great too. I could tell so much more... Its hard to reach without a car. You can get a rental car for 10Euros+ 7,50 insurance a day from www.sixti.de.
Just skip this romantic road ripp off, all the locals know its not that interesting and its spoiled by the tourists and the guys who want to make money from them. It you have to visit Neuschwanstein, keep in mind its "fake". Its "recent" bavarian history nothing old. Look at a few of the 14th century houses in Regenburg and you will notice the difference!
Difficult to find a start
It you dont have a car, you choice is more limited. One of my favourite places would be Regensburg (take a walk along the danube, look for the romain remains, roman bridge, museum, Kepler history, historic downtown. Only few tourists. Straubing is nice too!Both places where ordinary people live and you wont get ripped off. Eichstätt is great to but you may find the smaller places nearby (Beilngries and Riedenburg) more loveley. The monastry and the beer at Riedenburg are more impressive resp. better than Andechs. Visit the Eichstätt prehistoric museum and see if you find something in the stone pit there
Take the boat tour from Eichstädt up the Altmühl River. The Holledau is the planets largest hop growing area. The Asparagus from Schrobenhausen is world famous. I find Ingolstadt isnt that intersting. Without a car you choice will be limited Regenburg and Eichstätt via Ingolstadt would be possible. The area where Jeri B goes is great too. I could tell so much more... Its hard to reach without a car. You can get a rental car for 10Euros+ 7,50 insurance a day from www.sixti.de.
Just skip this romantic road ripp off, all the locals know its not that interesting and its spoiled by the tourists and the guys who want to make money from them. It you have to visit Neuschwanstein, keep in mind its "fake". Its "recent" bavarian history nothing old. Look at a few of the 14th century houses in Regenburg and you will notice the difference!
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Neuschwanstein is not fake. It just isn't 500 years old. The history surrounding Ludwig, his castles, the decline of Europe's monarchies, and the dawn of democratic western Europe is all fascinating--even though it didn't happen in the middle ages.
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Its interesting to a historian who spezialises in 19th century european history. But it is not at all important visiting those "castles" to understand that history. Its about our former king and his crazyness. But there a lot of peolpe who want to make money out of these places and sell them for real and "important" to unsuspecting tourists. Neuschwanstein looks nice, but the decline of the Bavarian Kingdom is much more associated with the rise of Prussia than Ludwigs dream castles. He wanted to build Linderhof Indian-style but it just didnt look so good and we couldnt sell it to the tourists that well. The importance of Ludwigs castles is only a thing from the minds of german and american marketing guys...
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I'm also a historian who specializes in the 19th Century, and I'm surprised to see a fellow historian who does not appreciate what was happening in the German states and the rest of Europe in the last half of the century. To dismiss the Bavarian experience in the context of the general decline of the monarchies of Europe just because Ludwig was eccentric ("Mad" is a gross exaggeration, as you should know) astonishes me.
I did not state that Ludwig's building of his fantastic confections caused the downfall of anything. However, his ability to bring the Bavarian state to the edge of bankruptcy, partially due to power he had to indulge his castle-building obesession, was a clear symptom of the internal rot infecting the monarchies at that time, and culminating in their virtual destruction by the end of WWI.
Perhaps we should each write a treatise on the topic and submit them to a jury of fodors.com members.
I did not state that Ludwig's building of his fantastic confections caused the downfall of anything. However, his ability to bring the Bavarian state to the edge of bankruptcy, partially due to power he had to indulge his castle-building obesession, was a clear symptom of the internal rot infecting the monarchies at that time, and culminating in their virtual destruction by the end of WWI.
Perhaps we should each write a treatise on the topic and submit them to a jury of fodors.com members.
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Well, lets start a new subject here? I really dont belive the "bavarian experience" was the cause for the decline of the monarchies. There could have been any other monach in Bavaria , the story would not have been much different! It was clear to everybody at least since 1848 that the real forces in Germany were Prussia and Austria. A symptom for the decay true, but the rise of nationalism, the accellerating industrialization and the buildup of the military in Prussia were the driving forces for the creation of the german state. The castles dont hold any significance whatsoever in the events that followed. They remain what they are: nice to look at! You totally overvalue the importance of bavaria in the process. It was too weak and underdeveloped to defend itself from the beginning! Know your history
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The really bad part is that the castles are marketed to unsuspecting persons today, as if they had been of any significance. This is bending history for the sake of money. You can associate modern Germany with the Brandenburg Gate, and even with the aera of LudwigI and his castels and the way he changed the shape of Munich. LudwingII is important as he still represents the quest for Bavarian independence, but this happend after his death.
But Ludwigs castels an not significant. And I believe most german historians think the same.
But Ludwigs castels an not significant. And I believe most german historians think the same.
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