Go Back  Fodor's Travel Talk Forums > Destinations > Europe
Reload this Page >

Are there any areas in Paris that should be avoided?

Search

Are there any areas in Paris that should be avoided?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 09:38 AM
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Are there any areas in Paris that should be avoided?

Are there any arrondisments that I should plan to avoid? I have been planning my honeymoon there for a while now and I have heard a few people recently say that I should avoid a few areas of Paris because they are not nice at all and may "be a little scary". I am not one to be very nervous of bad surroundings but is this true? I do not speak French well so I am slightly concerned I would not be able to perceive a possible danger quickly and so I pose the question to the forum. Please do not give me hell about this, I am just concerned for my wife's safety (and mine to a slightly less degree!)
naughtyb is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 09:45 AM
  #2  
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 19,881
Likes: 0
Nowhere in central Paris is especially dangerous - just use your normal common sense and don't go down dark alleyways
alanRow is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 09:48 AM
  #3  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 0
Arrondissements are quite large areas, and none need be totally out of bounds. Street crime can happen anywhere, and the usual commonsense rules apply.
PatrickLondon is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 09:56 AM
  #4  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
I have been there and I do know that central Paris is safe. I used to live in Philly and in New Orleans so I do know about crime in cities. Having said that though, I did know of places or areas that I should be very mindful of avoiding, especially at night. I guess that is what I am worried about because I know that my wife and I will be walking around and will probably have had a few drinks. Just want to avoid trouble.
naughtyb is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 10:01 AM
  #5  
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,523
Likes: 0
I would say that, beyond applying standard common sense at night, there are no arrondissements that you should avoid. You may not want to be around Place Pigalle, for example, because of its sex shops, and there were some comments here about the neighbourhood going to Cathedral St. Denis, but for what a typical visit to Paris would involve, no worries.

I've wandered Paris at night every trip, with no worries. Where will you be going ?
Michel_Paris is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 10:25 AM
  #6  
RJD
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 663
Likes: 0
There are areas in France and Paris in particular that are officially designated as dangerous places largely due to Muslim unrest. They are called "Zones Urbaines Sensibes." Remember the riots of 2005? Local Police avoid these areas. Most of them around Paris are in outlying areas like the 18th but there are some areas in the 10th and 11th that are demarked.
I do not believe tha there is much danger to the average tourist, but some knowledge that these "no go" areas exist would be prudent.
RJD is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 10:52 AM
  #7  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
RJD,
that is the type of thing that I was concerned about. I had heard of the riots in '05 and watched something on youtube about it as well.

Michael,
I dont really know what we are doing in Paris other than just going. We dont have a really big plan other than having picked out some restaurants that we want to eat at. We have both been to Paris twice and have seen most of the major sites although she has not seen the Sacre Couer (spelling?) and I will take her there. I have heard there is a wine festival in Montmarte during the week that we are there (Oct 1st-8th) but I am not sure of the exact date of it and if I find out when it is, I may take her to the wine festival then Sacre Couer or vice versa. Also, I believe the one night a year when Paris keep the museums open late will occur during our stay as well. We will do that as well. Lastly, I want to go to the catacombs but I know that wont be romantic however we'll go because i really want to. Other than that, I am not sure. You have some suggestions of some interesting things to do?
naughtyb is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 11:13 AM
  #8  
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,247
Likes: 0




The Fete des vendages is the 12-14 of October this year.

http://www.parisinfo.com/sortir-a-pa...-de-montmartre

Nuit Blanche is Saturday October 6th
jody is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 11:16 AM
  #9  
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,000
Likes: 0

<i>I dont really know what we are doing in Paris other than just going. We dont have a really big plan other than having picked out some restaurants that we want to eat at.</i>

Beautiful. This hits my nail on the head. I don't need another view of the Mona Lisa or Napoleon's Tomb either. Just being in the City is good enough.


hopscotch is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 11:30 AM
  #10  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 35,154
Likes: 0
There isn't any entire arrondisement that is scary. They are really quite large. I have had only one area in all of Paris I can remember, deep into one part of Belleville where I was alone once and felt uncomfortable due to the way some local guys were watching me. Once I was getting out of a club very late at night with some other girls after the metro stopped, and there were some rowdy guys near the bus stop (oh yeah, once a drunk in the streets at night in another area) that were a little discomfiting. This really wouldn't very likely to happen to you given your agenda. That had nothing to do with the area, though, but the time of night and that few people were around, and that the middle of the night is when some young drunk guys are getting out of the bars.

Use common sense and don't wander around in the middle of the night in dark areas where there is no street traffic, I'd say. If certain people warned you about areas that were scary, didn't you ask them where they were, or didn't they tell you? If they thought they knew enough to tell you that, they should have been more specific. Perceived danger doesn't have much to do with speaking French that much, I don't think. It's based more on body language and activities and other things. The times I was uncomfortable, I wasn't speaking or talking to anyone, even though I do speak French (actually, I could hear what some of the guys at the bus stop were saying, they were just young drunk punks, basically).

I suspect if someone told you an entire arrondisement was &quot;not nice&quot;, they might have meant the 19th or 20th. I guess, they maybe didn't even know what they were talking about and meant the suburbs, probably, which aren't arrondisements. I suspect you don't realize how large an arrondisement is and think it's just a few blocks.

Why don't you go watch that movie Paris Je t'Aime and take notes on the guy in the subway.
Christina is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 11:47 AM
  #11  
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 7,523
Likes: 0
I like the idea of a trip with restaurants being the only to-do. My kind of trip.

I've been 9-10 times, and I'm picking away at the places still on my list. Last time it was the Jaquemart Andre museum, the Chapel Expiatoire (where Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette's bodies were thrown after being guillotined), Grand Magasins for the xmas lights, Musee Carnavalet for historical Paris items, some Marais walking tours, Pont des Arts,etc...

I also went with a list of restaurants and checked off a couple, but there are so many more to experience.

Nice part of my day was going to the little cafe at the end of my street for my morning cafe, croissant, OJ, and newspaper, with the locals. I was staying in the 16th, so it was off of the touristed path.
Michel_Paris is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 11:51 AM
  #12  
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,997
Likes: 0
Perhaps; any area that you can't afford.
GSteed is offline  
Old Sep 10th, 2007 | 12:29 PM
  #13  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,269
Likes: 0
Here's a list of the &quot;Zones Urbaines Sensibles&quot; with links to maps (you're looking for department code 75):

http://i.ville.gouv.fr/divbib/doc/chercherZUS.htm

These are not areas you'd be likely to go near anyway, I would guess.
PatrickLondon is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Original Poster
Forum
Replies
Last Post
nitishraj
Europe
4
Aug 31st, 2017 10:21 PM
chernsu
Europe
27
May 11th, 2016 06:41 AM
Travelingpainter
Europe
7
Oct 11th, 2011 09:13 AM
idgy
Europe
6
Feb 25th, 2007 09:20 AM
brennynp
Europe
13
Nov 2nd, 2005 03:20 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement -