Appropriate dress
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Here's another vote for "dress as nice as you can pack." Among other things, it will help make the experience a special one for you.
This reminds me of the very special experience my husband and I had about 10 years ago. We were in Salzburg for the music festival, and got tickets to Don Giovanni. Somehow, we found that this was a pretty fancy affair. My husband took a tux, and I took the fanciest dress I had. Most of the attendees were in tuxes or ball gowns/Austrian dress. The crowd as they spilled into the street during intermission was brilliant. The audience was as special as the performance.
This reminds me of the very special experience my husband and I had about 10 years ago. We were in Salzburg for the music festival, and got tickets to Don Giovanni. Somehow, we found that this was a pretty fancy affair. My husband took a tux, and I took the fanciest dress I had. Most of the attendees were in tuxes or ball gowns/Austrian dress. The crowd as they spilled into the street during intermission was brilliant. The audience was as special as the performance.
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Aside from the pettiness of the combattant, there is a legitimate issue, what is appropraiate to wear at events normally considered formal, such as the opera.
I think there are some sage posts here, particularly those suggesting dressing up rather than down. In all fairness, we do see trousers at the opera, but after cringing, we simply assume these people have no choice because they are seeking something flattering, which is understandable.
But yes, we should all dress as well as we can, and not consider operas, etc. occasions for going casual. Trousers are for the most part casual, especially the shorter, cropped types.
BTW, sychophant is such a harsh word to toss around. Seeking favor through flattery of influential people is not something we ought to brand another with, nor the alternative meanings of toady and parasite. Totally inappropriate for a travel website, IMHO.
I think there are some sage posts here, particularly those suggesting dressing up rather than down. In all fairness, we do see trousers at the opera, but after cringing, we simply assume these people have no choice because they are seeking something flattering, which is understandable.
But yes, we should all dress as well as we can, and not consider operas, etc. occasions for going casual. Trousers are for the most part casual, especially the shorter, cropped types.
BTW, sychophant is such a harsh word to toss around. Seeking favor through flattery of influential people is not something we ought to brand another with, nor the alternative meanings of toady and parasite. Totally inappropriate for a travel website, IMHO.
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Hi again,
I promise not to be pulled into any pettiness here again, but I did want to be clear on something that is being mentioned and was not sure if it was my wording that is being referred to.
I do not know if rootbear is a guy or gal, Gerry being feminine also-sorry G, if you are a guy
but. Trousers was meant for men, instead of jeans, and I did not want to use the word pants, being underwear if you are English...see what happens when we all speak a different English!
Thanks for thinking that sycophant was harsh, I was remembering it meaning, obsequious or fawning, now I may be called some things, but I don't think that describes me at all.
Scarlett
I promise not to be pulled into any pettiness here again, but I did want to be clear on something that is being mentioned and was not sure if it was my wording that is being referred to.
I do not know if rootbear is a guy or gal, Gerry being feminine also-sorry G, if you are a guy
but. Trousers was meant for men, instead of jeans, and I did not want to use the word pants, being underwear if you are English...see what happens when we all speak a different English!
Thanks for thinking that sycophant was harsh, I was remembering it meaning, obsequious or fawning, now I may be called some things, but I don't think that describes me at all.
Scarlett
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I am sorry (not really) but, isn't FASHION WEEK with all of THE Trunk shows held in EUROPE?
I KNOW the NY fashion scene too as I grew up in it...
Europe is still considered the fashion leader and nobody in the industry does anything without going to those shows...that's the business, that's the industry...
So, us travel minions need to take note that Europe has not left the building nor the travel board.
The Fashion Police may be mythical to some and who really cares?...
However, what about YOUR good ole common sense and home training?
I do think pride, respect and self esteem are pieces of the fashion puzzle at home and while traveling...anywhere.
I have to say that as women especially some of us in the USA, we could stand to take our personal appearance up a few notches when we do travel.
No one is making you wear those ugly Clarks, Ecco's and the like...without you even bothering to get a pedicure for your feet!
And, will it kill you to take a cloth and dust off your beloved walking shoes?
And, all that stomping around like we are kin to godzilla...that ain't cute either. Posture ladies, posture...
Many European women and other women from a host of countries, USA too... do not walk in that way.
Your self respect, pride and sense of self are totally at play...or not.
And no, you do not HAVE to wash, brush, shave and coordinate or clean your clothes to have a good time while traveling or while at home but...we can see you!
Excuse my rant but, I get so tired of some equating pack-light, ugly walking shoes, and casual dress with being "Good and sensible Travel folks".
Oaktown Traveler
p.s. Rootbeer: What is the name of the town that is near Monaco that your query is about?
I KNOW the NY fashion scene too as I grew up in it...
Europe is still considered the fashion leader and nobody in the industry does anything without going to those shows...that's the business, that's the industry...
So, us travel minions need to take note that Europe has not left the building nor the travel board.
The Fashion Police may be mythical to some and who really cares?...
However, what about YOUR good ole common sense and home training?
I do think pride, respect and self esteem are pieces of the fashion puzzle at home and while traveling...anywhere.
I have to say that as women especially some of us in the USA, we could stand to take our personal appearance up a few notches when we do travel.
No one is making you wear those ugly Clarks, Ecco's and the like...without you even bothering to get a pedicure for your feet!
And, will it kill you to take a cloth and dust off your beloved walking shoes?
And, all that stomping around like we are kin to godzilla...that ain't cute either. Posture ladies, posture...
Many European women and other women from a host of countries, USA too... do not walk in that way.
Your self respect, pride and sense of self are totally at play...or not.
And no, you do not HAVE to wash, brush, shave and coordinate or clean your clothes to have a good time while traveling or while at home but...we can see you!
Excuse my rant but, I get so tired of some equating pack-light, ugly walking shoes, and casual dress with being "Good and sensible Travel folks".
Oaktown Traveler
p.s. Rootbeer: What is the name of the town that is near Monaco that your query is about?