Yep

predictable. <BR> <BR>Fish gotta swim. Flamers gotta flame. <BR>

Michael

Totally agree with XXX and Les. Phillis should have walked back to economy, found a steward(ess) there (probably all of 4 rows behind her) and paid for a drink to be delivered to her husband. The way she attempted it was tacky at minimum and dishonest at most. Had she initially requested of the business steward that she wished to buy her husband back in steerage a drink I think he very well may have comped it.

wanderer

let the lesson here be noted. the interpretion of these events are very slanted by how and from which side of the arguement you look from. one can and will usually jestify their behaivor and never see the other side of the story.

x

why would someone who can afford to pay exorbitant business class rates try to get out of paying for a $4 glass of wine? ever hear of an honest mistake? perhaps phillis doesn't fly much and didn't realize coach passengers paid extra for wine. or maybe in anticipation of seeing a look of pleasure on her husband's face, just wasn't thinking about it? i'm flabbergasted and reminded of the saying about casting stones. <BR> <BR>as for not being able to be friends with her defenders, i feel sorry for someone who is so ridgid and holier than thou that they have lost the ability to forgive and understand, especially when their viewpoint is based upon facts garnered from a few lines of comment. <BR> <BR>i rarely post but enjoy reading many of your threads. i'm especially surprised at the attitude of one of the posters here. they are usually so helpful and seem to have a good sense of humor and balanced outlook on life. but then, again, i'm just seeing what i read from a few comments posted to a board. i may have been wrong.

s.fowler

Does it occur to those of you flaming phillis -- that maybe she just acted out of love for her husband and didn't think before she started to walk back to the sardine can? Give the lady a break.

Michael

Please quote examples of "flaming" documented within this thread. In my mind, sincere disagreement proffered in a public forum does not qualify.

xxx

Has anyone considered that perhaps Phillis might have oridinarily had TWO free drinks, but instead had only one and donated the other to her husband? What's wrong with that? It's two glasses of wine that would have been given away regardless.

aaa

Well, I'd have to agree with Phyllis that the rudeness was unnecessary; the steward should have presumed innocence on Phyllis' part and sought first to explain and educate, rather than to reprimand. <BR> <BR>Phyllis could arguably have believed that she had paid for two glasses of wine and was merely donating one of them to her husband. The same cannot be said for anyone trying to ride the vaporetto 'for free.' In that instance, when one evades payment (i.e. cheats or steals a ride) someone else must make up the shortfall. It seems as good as any a time to point out that those who can afford taxis do not generally ride public transit, so it is the average working Italian who will be the one who pays.

Les

Re. X's comment, "as for not being able to be friends with her defenders, i feel sorry for someone who is so ridgid and holier than thou that they have lost the ability to forgive and understand, especially when their viewpoint is based upon facts garnered from a few lines of comment.", is not Phillis also fishing for sympathy (and, surprisingly, getting it) based on those same few lines of comment? She is not asking for forgiveness; that would imply that she understands she did something wrong. Her "few lines of comment" indicate otherwise.

sandi

You guys are more darn fun!!!!!

Pippi

I have heretofore stayed away fomr this topic but I think a little advice on this subject is overdue. Everyone knows that if a passenger gets unduly unruly, the steward/ess captain, etc., have any means at their disposal (short of murder) to handle it, and when the plane lands, an arrest will be made in severe cases. Now, what recourse does a passenger have when verbally assaulted, doused with tomato juice or coffee (without an apology, as someone mentioned) or otherwise harassed. I'm sure many feel completely victimized as if they should stand up and defend themselves, or issue a retort, they may be accused of being 'unruly'. On the whole, I think airline passengers are alloted very little respect in today's skys. And while on the subject, I think that seats should come in varying sizes and prices, with a minimum size at a minimum cost, with larger people (and some very large men) having the option to pay a little more for the added room that will make their (and their seatmates) trip more tolerable. I am sure it will come to this, with the general increase in size of people in the last 50 years.