I wonder if the meetings are business meetings? I am imagining late arrivals and near incoherence from lack of sleep and disorientation.

> We may not tour all these things but just see them from outside to decide for another trip if want to tour it.


In that case, just use google images and save yourself some time/money/stress/anxiety attacks/etc.

Day 15 is very light.

perhaps the OP is planning to sleep then.

otherwise there doesn't seem to be much time for sleeping, or eating.

and I don't see the point of travelling all the way across a city to look at the outside of a building and then not going in. much better to plan the itinerary so that you group places near each other together and allow enough time to see them for a reasonable amount of time.

eg on Day 17, after the colosseum and forum, the OP could spend the afternoon at the capitoline museums, and/or the vittorio emmanuale monument, or San Clemente, all of which are in the same area.

To ny traveler I most certainly will come back on and reply how my trip went. Thanks all but I truly do feel I have planned this out well we have googled everything with walking maps and what subways to take etc. even have looked at times of openings and closings of places. My point is if we get to do them we do if we don't , we don't. I'm not stressing about it. I'm going to go and enjoy whatever I see. We did group things together. But I guess we will find out when get there.

"<i>and what subways to take etc</i>"

You are in a LOT of trouble if you are taking subways. (a subway is a pedestrian underground walkway)

I must admit that I would be very interested to see some of your detailed plans. Perhaps you could pick two or three days - ANY two or three days (they don't need to be consecutive) and share your detailed plans with us. And please let us know where you got the information for your plans (e.g., how you estimated how much time it would take to get from X to Y and how much time it would take to do whatever you wanted to do once you got to Y). I suspect that many of us are curious about the specifics of your plans. Thanks!

your original post ".............tell me what ya think, whether to much or not enough time between things let me know. Or if know of something else to add or take away"

I think most people think you're planning WAY too much, not allowing for weather, lines for tickets, transportation delays, and only allowing enough time at the sites you want to see for a cursory "peek"

I first asked a question here 6.5 years ago. I have learned SO much and I plan our trips so much better now.

The most important thing I learned was not to try to do too much.

You'll do yourself a favor by listening to these people.

Give yourself the chance to get lost ... to dedicate more time you planned to a stunning view you couldn't guess to find before to leave.
I can understand short time at your disposal, I work as well and I hate to be forced to fix a return date on my ticket, but I think a travel's most value is not to know what you are going to face.
So, get in Paris, but even breathe it, not only walk too fast with eyes stick to your map just to reach places you scheduled to visit.

"<i>tell me what ya think, whether to much or not enough time between things let me know. Or if know of something else to add or take away.</i>"

"<i>. . . it but hope to we it all tell me what ya think guys. </i>"

You asked for advice and are ignoring all of it - I'm a bit confused why it is you posted??

"We did group things together. But I guess we will find out when get there."

No - you don't have to wait until you get there. If you look at a map of any of the cities you will see that you have not grouped thing together. things miles apart are not "together"

Perhaps you are from a place where you go everywhere by car instead of foot or bus or tube - and don;t have the concept of how long things take. But you are not going from one place to another at 60 mph - or even 20 mph. You are walking from where you are to a tube station, going down the escalator - waiting for a train - the right train - they going 7 or 8 stops - then walking to the escalator then going up then walking 7 or 8 blocks to where you are going. this does NOT take 5 minutes. You just spent 30 to 40 minutes - and you have days where you are bouncing around all over cities - from east to west and then back again.

And why list a bunch of places you know you will not get to see. that's not a plan - that's just silly.

Agree - please pick one day - any day - and lay it out with times (telling us where you're starting from) and perhaps any of us can show you how long your planned activities will really take. Or why the plan is impossible.

Or could it be Dobby the Turtle all over again?

I never understand why people post, when they are not going to listen to any of the replies. If you think/know that you have this all figured out, why post on Fodor's?

I remember when i worked in london, sometimes i'd have some free time and decide to go exploring or visit a museum/gallery.

Almost invariably it took twice as long as I'd expected. That's just what london's like, and i knew it reasonably well. Good planning so that places that are in the same area are grouped together will optimise the amount that can been seen, and is probably more valuable in london than in many other places.

but if the OP would rather spend time criss-crossing london on the subway [lol] than actually seeing thingsi suppose that's up to him.