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The BO Pass now includes Bern and Luzern according to their website.

Paragliders often take off from just outside the Hotel Faulhorn on the Grindelwald side Indy and theoretically at least could make it all the way to the lake.

Going back to your encounter with snow, when hiking from Faulhorn down to Giessbach, we had snow/ice on the first section going down from Faulhorn. It is extremely steep and if you stumbled or slipped I don't think you would stop rolling for a long, long way.

The north side of any of the peaks is always where you will encounter snow if anywhere, as they get less sun. It's always a good idea to keep that in mind when planning a hike in the Alps anywhere, at higher altitudes.

<<The BO Pass now includes Bern and Luzern according to their website.>>

I realized that. It's cheaper, but longer to go Zurich -- Lucerne -- Wengen than Zurich -- Bern -- Wengen. The 386 CHF assumes you are paying for the pass + the Zurich/Lucerne round trip as you indicated in your post.

If you went via Bern it would cost more (because Zurich -- Bern is more).

Hi, indydad,

just found your TR. looks like a great trip - and wonderful weather.

I was interested in reading what you said about costs. on our first and last visit to Wengen, it was at a time of rampant inflation in the UK. We were very impressed to be handed a wooden menu which had its prices etched into the wood.

not much inflation there!

Good one annhig.

Of course, what you didn't think of is that they are laser burned into the board and can be produced as quickly as a printed page. ;-)

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/swit.../inflation-cpi

As you can see (change year to just the last year for a closer look) they have had NEGATIVE inflation in the last year. Would have had to DROP prices on their menu.

Ok everyone. I have spent time crunching the numbers and have come to the conclusion for me is the Regional Pass with travel from Zurich to/from Luzern. Now with Luzern and Bern being included in the pass, it is less. The details are the pass and ticket to Luzern comes in at 395USD. The 1/2 fare card comes in a close 2nd at 410USD. This is all based on individual ticket prices and www.sbb.ch website. There are supersaver tickets available that can save even more $$$ off the individual 1/2 fare rates; however, I cannot look at those until 14 days before I leave as they only post them up 14 days in advance. I want to avoid the 50USD shipping fee and will buy the pass once I arrive. Supersaver tickets can be printed off online I believe.

Again, thank you everyone for all your assistance.

I thought the B.O. pass netted 386 CHF (330 + 56). That's higher than $395 isn't it? (doesn't really matter -- they are all about the same)

Are you locked in for a specific train for the super savers? If so, be sure to weigh the flexibility of the walk up tickets.

Have fun!

It is ironic to read your report today. A warning to all people who are going in that area please stay on the trails and do not hike on your own, a very special person I know fell to his death this week there. Take care on these mountains, they can be very dangerous

Indy....
Can you tell me the easiest way to get to Trummelbach? We want to go tomorrow and after today's trek...we want to minimize the hiking. Train from grindelwald to??? Then how far to falls or can we take a bus???

sure

Go to www.sbb.ch and enter Trümmelbachfälle for your destination

You'll take the train to Lauterbrunnen via Zweilütschinen.

You'll then want the (Post) bus. Not sure the number or location, but it was close to the station -- I assume there are signs.

If it doesn't say Trummelbach, you can look for the Stechelberg bus (that's the end point) and get off along the way.

It's not that far to walk (2 miles? flat) either and then you'll get to see a few other falls along the way.

Thanks!! Just getting back to our room after celebrating Swiss National Day. I will check it out in the morning.

The bus to the falls in in front of the train station, across the street and just to the left a little bit as you leave the train station. I thought there was a little sign there. Either way, they will know at the train station. It is a little bit of a walk to the falls once you get off the bus, but it is through a meadow and is just beautiful and peaceful. Have fun!

ttt

Great photos and trip report!

bookmarking. great report!

Bookmarking as well.

Great trip report. Love the details and pics in your blog. Do your remember the weight requirement for the First Zipline? I'm taking my girls (11 and 9) in summer. Also do you feel the food at the Schoenegg was kid friendly? We are staying there and trying to decide if we should do half board or not. Also trying to decide between Swiss Pass and Berner Oberland Pass for family of 4. Coming from Lugano and staying in Wengen a week. Then from Wengen to Germany.

Great trip report. Love the details and pics in your blog. Do your remember the weight requirement for the First Zipline? I'm taking my girls (11 and 9) in summer. Also do you feel the food at the Schoenegg was kid friendly? We are staying there and trying to decide if we should do half board or not. Also trying to decide between Swiss Pass and Berner Oberland Pass for family of 4. Coming from Lugano and staying in Wengen a week. Then from Wengen to Germany.

@brubenow

min weight limit is 35 kg

http://www.jungfrau.ch/nc/en/sommer/...un-package_201

We only ate the one night at Schoenegg and my memory is fading. I don't remember any complaints from the kids but it was on the fancy side. I'm sure they can accommodate. In general, the half-board is a good deal if you are going to be eating out anyway.

Don't forget the Half-fare card. My experience is that it will be the best option or close to it in most cases. However, the only way to really know is to do the math (spreadsheet). Gather all the fares here (and other places):

http://www.jungfrau.ch/en/tourism/tr...al-travellers/