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A perfectly planned romantic longweekend trip gone bad.

A perfectly planned romantic longweekend trip gone bad.

Aug 25th, 2006, 04:39 AM
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kswl-- This is a similar situation, except there are only two of them. Obviously, they can't both be gone the same weekend. Originally my husband assured me that he would be able to be away that weekend, but the moonlighters he was counting on backed out.

Tower- as you see, this is not a choice he is making. This type of practice does not shut down. They are available 365 days a year.

We are still talking about me going alone. I just have be sure he is not going to feel badly about it. It would not be worth it.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 04:50 AM
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Many people don't understand that kind of working situation, Ralstonlan. People who have salaried jobs working for other people tend to make those kinds of comments about "balance."

Here's hoping it all works out--
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Aug 25th, 2006, 05:43 AM
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Nothing to do with salaried. The OP could have contacted the partner and ask if something like this was possible. If the partner said that maybe that particular weekend is not, but s/he could live without the OP's husband on some other weekend, then the problem would have been solved before it became a problem.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 06:17 AM
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A similar occurred with our planned trip to Hawaii years ago...something important came up with dorkforcedad's business and he couldn't go on vacation. I had the company pay back the money we lost on the trip...
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Aug 25th, 2006, 11:21 AM
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You are so right. It is very difficult for others to understand the demands of this business unless you live it.

I guess to put it in perspective for others , I can offer this possible scenario: You are brought to an Emergency Room seeking medical attention but are told there is no one there to see you because the physicain who was supposed to cover the shift went away for the weekend and there was absolutely no one else to work.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 11:26 AM
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In any case, I know you're disappointed about your weekend. I hope you're able to resurrect it another time...I recently had to cancel a project I'd worked 7 months on. Part of my disappointment had to do, I'm sure, with the amount of time and money I'd put into it. Bummer! My empathies...
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Aug 25th, 2006, 11:30 AM
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Thank goodness my job isn't so important (& that I have trained people to cover for me). Based on the type of business (& the cost), I would have certainly have had all my eggs in the basket prior to shelling out that type of $$$. Who am I kidding, I could spend a month in Europe for what was being spent on this weekend 'surprise'.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 11:31 AM
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While I understand Ralstonian's feelings I can only think she brought this upon herself by not thinking it through.

To ira who says: I shall not comment on a person for whom business affairs are more important than such a thoughtful and lovely birthday surprise I would say that it is those self-same business affairs which have probably provided the money to make such an expensive jolly possible in the first place.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 11:35 AM
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Ralstonlan - sorry you have to feel like you need to defend yourself. I dont think you do and you have shown tremendous grace with some of these mean spirited comments.

Some of you act like she deserved this to happen ... either be helpful or be quiet.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 11:58 AM
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ChicagoLorri, OP posted on a public forum, where anyone is "allowed" to post. The in-hindsight suggestion to okay it with the partner first before booking plans really does make sense, and is not "Mean Spirited".

Ralstonlan, so sorry for the problems and the money loss is a bit bruising, but I know a resourceful person like you will make a fantastic rebound. Here's to beautiful future trips!
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Aug 25th, 2006, 12:08 PM
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AA, you are right - she didn't do her homework but mistakes happen and in this case it was a rotten deal. I have had the bank charge me fees for ATM use in Europe and when I call up, be very nice, explain YES I knew the rule, but I am a very longtime customer and it would be nice of you to reverse these charges, the bank has done it BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP THE CUSTOMER. So I was just trying to help by sort of suggesting that she call American and see what if anything can be done. You just never know who you might get on the phone. Perhaps you or someone can tell her who she should try. Call the AA number and ask to speak to a supervisor? Be very very sweet and explain the situation? Might come up zero and might get someone who can help.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 12:17 PM
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Good Advice, chicagolori.
Money is a relative thing. I would imagine that everyone that posts on this board has friends who think going to Europe is an extravagance beyond compare, while we take it as the norm. What a blessing to be able to make a big money mistake and not suffer too much. That does not take away from the disappointment the OP must feel when she worked out a surprise with so much love and intent and to have it bomb.
Would she garner more sympathy if her birthday cake had simply fallen?
It's somehow doesn't seem fair to be unsympathic based on the money spent.
I believe that if you put a cap on someone else's prosperity - you'll put a cap on your own.

It's nice to work for a large company where you can take off and someone will cover but life isn't like that if you work independently or for a very small company.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 12:21 PM
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In fact, I would give them a real sob story - say her husband is medical personnel and that the hospital will be stranded if he went, that it might cause people to suffer, etc. etc. etc. and see where it gets you. And if that doesn't work, write a letter to the President of AA. He'll never see it but someone up the ladder might.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 12:27 PM
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Fair enough Ronda,

it may be worth a call, but to be honest with you, I really believe, until proven differently, it will be a waste of time. I have flown AA over 100K miles each year for the last 4 years and I don't get too many breaks. One here or there maybe, but in the few cases AA was "somewhat" to blame for what happened. If it was just my "mistake", it was always a no go.

Also, your analogy to your bank is not a good one. While your bank may be a big national bank, you are dealing with the local branch. The local manager has the latitude to make exceptions. The airline business complaints go to one and only CS center (although there may be few locations), but the point is that it's not localized, in fact even the Executive Platinum desk can't do stuff for me most of the times and I really don't expect it, but on occasion I still ask nicely and hope for the best. Rules are rules, and if we buy cheap tickets, we have to learn how to live with consequences if something goes wrong.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 12:34 PM
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I think that's ridiculous to expect AA to make some special rules just because someone doesn't plan ahead and make reasonable plans or buy insurance. This isn't some sob story. This family has plenty of money to spend on things like $500 hotel rooms, meals costing hundreds of dollars, etc. (see expensive vacation for birhday last year). This isn't some poor charity case, and I personally find it troublesome that the OP thinks her life is so tragic and this is so terrible that she needs to post it on a board to get sympathy. She's the one that made all this public in the first place, acting as if this is some big tragedy when it's not. I wonder where all that money to pay for the trip came from and all those frequent flyer miles. Let's get a little perspective. If rich people want to spend thousands on weekend birthday vacations, fine, but this isn't some sob story. In fact, I think it's a little in bad taste to flaunt it as such.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 12:34 PM
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Hi Ralstonlan,

Sometimes these things happen. When my husband & I went to England a few years ago, we scratched our rental car and had to pay $1000.00 in insurance! It was terribly stressful at the time but we got past it and had a good trip, and now it's all but forgotten.

My advice would just be to kiss the $1175.00 goodbye as a "learning experience," and reschedule the trip for a time when your husband can be sure of getting away from work. It sounds like the surprise would have been absolutely lovely, but he was just in a situation where he couldn't get away. But that doesn't mean you can't still go within the year and have an unforgettable weekend together. Flying coach could be a bonding experience.

The tension about the money will blow over. The important thing is that you have a husband that you care about, and that at some point in your future you are going to Paris!!!!!
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Aug 25th, 2006, 01:09 PM
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AA, have you called a bank lately? You don't get the local branch anymore - you call some 800 number and speak to a central answering system. So you are wrong.

And it was perfectly planned, just not thought all the way through but who can anticipate everything that might go wrong?

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Aug 25th, 2006, 01:30 PM
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So Ronda is now suggesting lying/fraud to get what one wants? Give me a break!
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Aug 25th, 2006, 01:51 PM
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And it was perfectly planned, just not thought all the way through

Therefore it was not perfectly planned.
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Aug 25th, 2006, 01:52 PM
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I bank with a private bank. They have branches all over eastern US, but only one here in Sarasota. I know most of the tellers by their first name, the bank manager invites me to their Christmas party, etc.etc, so that's the extend of my banking experience for the last 10 years or so.

If I do feel that I was wrongly charged for something I call the bank and in most cases the girls in CS take care of it without a question, but if it's a more serious matter, I get to talk to the manager. And guess what? on occasion I was refused a favorable outcome because it was a valid charge and it was explained to me very clearly.

I don't know about you, but in my book that is fair, and I try not to come up with any sob stories.
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