4 to 5 weeks in Europe not rushed

Old Jun 9th, 2016 | 03:26 PM
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Is this enough days to see mentioned places at a slow pace?>

janis dear - I was responding to the question and to answer that would be you do not even need that many days to just the things listed. Yeh you could spend the whole 4-5 weeks in London and not be bored....because then you'd be bored with life I guess.

With 7 days in London I'd certainly advise doing a day trip or two and see a different side of England from cosmopolitan London - whose center is full of foreign tourists more than locals it seems sometimes.

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Old Jun 9th, 2016 | 05:57 PM
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I think London is OK - but do look into what there is for children to do and where the local parks are. Every 2 year olds loves lakes and feeding the ducks and petting zoos and playgrounds and boat rides - and a tone of other kiddie things. And yes, Disney (they love disney videos at that age).

I would set aside time every day for the little one to run around - perhaps someplace you can relax and people watch.

Strongly reco Hampton court Palace from London - perhaps coming back by boat.

And I would add more days to Paris, to have time for kids stuff (not Disney but in Paris (ponds with boats, playgrounds, puppet shows etc) and just time to explore some cute neighborhoods.
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Old Jun 9th, 2016 | 05:58 PM
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I think London is OK - but do look into what there is for children to do and where the local parks are. Every 2 year olds loves lakes and feeding the ducks and petting zoos and playgrounds and boat rides - and a tone of other kiddie things. And yes, Disney (they love disney videos at that age).

I would set aside time every day for the little one to run around - perhaps someplace you can relax and people watch.

Strongly reco Hampton court Palace from London - perhaps coming back by boat.

And I would add more days to Paris, to have time for kids stuff (not Disney but in Paris (ponds with boats, playgrounds, puppet shows etc) and just time to explore some cute neighborhoods.
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Old Jun 9th, 2016 | 06:50 PM
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Think about adding Bruges somewhere. Our favorite spot but for an overnight stay not a day trip.
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Old Jun 9th, 2016 | 07:06 PM
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PQ: they have a toddler . . . the less dashing frantically about the better.
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Old Jun 9th, 2016 | 09:58 PM
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BigRuss. The joke maybe on you as not all of Australia was settled by Brittish Convicts. Really annoyed me when we visited the Tower and the guide said' to the Australians welcome home"
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Old Jun 9th, 2016 | 10:31 PM
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Thankyou everyone for your replies and being so nice, I was expecting to get roasted from only wanting to see sites and not the art or museums etc. To many to quote individually. We will definitely add 2 more nights in Paris. The reason we chose to fly into Amsterdam and work our way down south is if we do end up in South France which looks very likely, it will be later on in September when the crowds are thinning out while the weather is still pleasant. We love the look of South france and as stated it will be one less flight compared to flying to Athens.
Yes we will have a toddler, thsts why we thought just keep base in the cities I've mentioned, so if we have a off day ( which we will) we can just wander around and do a nothing day. I've written down all places mentioned by you to have a look. This is exactly what I wanted, parks, lakes etc for the little man so we are not dragging him around everyday and make it fun as possible for him. If it means we miss a sight or two then so be it.
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Old Jun 9th, 2016 | 10:46 PM
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Your trip sound great. Enjoy the planning.
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Old Jun 10th, 2016 | 12:25 AM
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I forgot to add if you are interested the National Museum is a fantastic place to visit. I was a bit ho hum about going there but my husband wanted to go. I loved it probably enough to entertain a toddler as well although the dinosaur may be a little scary. I will go back there.
Also Churchill war rooms were fantastic. So many places so little time. Lol
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Old Jun 10th, 2016 | 03:43 AM
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Sorry, juleslove, but why would a 2 year old be interested in Disney? perhaps for older children, if you really must, but I can't see it holding any attractions for an Australian toddler. S/he'd be more interested in the zoo [a great one in Amsterdam and another in the Jardins des Plantes in Paris] and running around in the Luxembourg Gardens.

annhig, sorry but I can't believe your asking this question, do you think they would be interested in a slavery museum or the Beetles museum... Def not too young for Disneyland, there is loads for toddlers, family rides, shows, the parades, meeting the characters, Mickey Mouse cafe, fantasy land, just seeing their face light up, I could but won't go on, you are never too young or too old for Disneyland!
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Old Jun 10th, 2016 | 05:26 AM
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I have 3 children and it not occur to me to drag a 2 yr old all over Europe. I feel you will miss important sights and the child will be wishing he was at a playground.>>

they are not intending to drag their toddler all over Europe but to take a very leisurely look at small parts of 3 countries [possibly 4 if we include Greece] spread over 4-5 weeks. I'm the first one to advise parents to slow up, but this looks like a very well thought out trip, and I'm sure that we can rely upon their good sense to look for parks and playgrounds, I doubt that they need telling about that.

<<sorry but I can't believe your asking this question, do you think they would be interested in a slavery museum or the Beetles museum... Def not too young for Disneyland, there is loads for toddlers, family rides, shows, the parades, meeting the characters, Mickey Mouse cafe, fantasy land, just seeing their face light up, I could but won't go on, you are never too young or too old for Disneyland!>>

I've no idea whether the child in question has any interest in the Beetles [though he might like the music] or the Slavery museum, but I certainly don't take the view that parents should do nothing on holiday that does not appeal to their children as well, do you?

As for Disney, I'm sure that these parents know whether it will appeal to their child or not, but it's not a given that an Australian toddler is going to give a fig for Mickey Mouse, and it's a very expensive and not very convenient way of finding a playground. It sounds to me as if they have him very much in mind and want them all to have a good a time as possible.
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Old Jun 10th, 2016 | 06:00 AM
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cheska, the National Museum? Is that the Natural History Museum? Or in some other city than London?

To the OP, given the relatively slow pace of your trip as well as the age of your child, I'd look into apartments at each stop. I assume your child still naps. Can he nap on the go? Anyway a one-bedroom apartment allows him to nap and go to bed early in another room while you parents talk, watch TV, etc.

If you give us a budget, we can recommend apartments and/or agencies. Unfortunately the short-term rental scene in Paris is in chaos because the authorities are cracking down on illegally let apartments. So Paris is a bit of an issue.
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Old Jun 10th, 2016 | 07:50 AM
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cheska, the National Museum? Is that the Natural History Museum? Or in some other city than London?>>


given that Cheska mentions dinosaurs, I'd guess that she means the Natural History Museum in London, Mimar.
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Old Jun 10th, 2016 | 01:57 PM
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annhig thanks I do mean the Natural History Museum.
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Old Jun 10th, 2016 | 04:12 PM
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We are only going to liverpool so my husband can go to Anfield. The Beatles and slavery museum was only put there if we have a cpl of days to kill being as we are there for the weekend. There will be some places that only myself or my husband might go see alone, especially if the queues are long. ( that's why we have limited places as it is).
I'm sure my son would love Disneyland, l I think it might be a good day out for him to see something he recognises.
Mimar, we haven't had a great look as of yet but poking around $250AUD a night which is 165 euro and 130 pound. This is give or take, with London probably the most expensive.
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Old Jun 10th, 2016 | 06:51 PM
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Have you considered renting apartments in each of your locations? It is nice to have a little home to return to each day, not just a bed. You can make a few meals and it will give your little one a bit more space. Laundry facilities too will be a bonus.

Hyde park in London is lovely. You can spend a leisurely afternoon feeding the ducks/geese and relaxing by the pond.

Luxembourg gardens in Paris is another lovely park to stroll around. Bring along a picnic and relax.

Your time looks great, not rushed. Glad you are adding a couple days to Paris, especially with heading out to Versailles one day .
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Old Jun 10th, 2016 | 10:32 PM
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I can't see it holding any attractions for an Australian toddler.
But its not given that an Australian toddler is going to give a fig for Mickey Mouse

annhig....im lost for words, not sure what it is about being Australian has to do with it? I am Australian, i took my kids, one was 3 to Disneyland and they loved it, i kept the memory alive by photos, videos etc that i would get out now and then. I now have a 2 year old grand daughter who has more than 1 Mickey Mouse doll, she loves him!

bitlost, i am so glad you are considering Disneyland, a memory my kids still cherish and so do myself and my husband...enjoy your travels!
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Old Jun 11th, 2016 | 12:28 AM
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I am Australian, i took my kids, one was 3 to Disneyland and they loved it, i kept the memory alive by photos, videos etc that i would get out now and then. I now have a 2 year old grand daughter who has more than 1 Mickey Mouse doll, she loves him!>>

That's great, juleslove. My point however was that it wouldn't occur to me to go to France to see an essentially american attraction particularly with a 2 year old for whom it will mean very little. If that's what the OP wants to do, that's fine but it was your only suggestion, which seemed to me to be rather strange given that they are visiting France, not Florida.
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Old Jun 11th, 2016 | 12:57 AM
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bitlost, I read in your original post that you want to see a Liverpool match at Anfield (or your husband does). Unfortunately the fixtures for the 2016/17 season won't be released till next month and it may well be that Liverpool won't be playing at home in the small window of time you have there.

He can do a stadium tour http://stadiumtours.liverpoolfc.com/ to see the history of this once good club, but unfortunately they've not won much for a lot of years now.

I'd suggest that he visits Old Trafford to see the museum and Trophy Exhibition, it's a bit more recent.
http://www.manutd.com/en/Visit-Old-T...dium-Tour.aspx
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Old Jun 11th, 2016 | 03:03 AM
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Rubicund, the fixtures are released in four days I think. 15th June. Watching liverpool at Anfield on this trip is a must lol. We will be planning on landing in Amsterdam and going to liverpool around a fixture there. No chance of getting him anywhere near a Manchester United museum ��
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