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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 08:46 AM
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2 weeks Scotland/England/Paris w/kids

Ideas for an itinerary? Traveling with 4 boys (aged 9-17) in June. Flying into Edinburgh, flying out of Paris 2 weeks later. We want to see England as well as Scotland and Paris, and would love to see something in Ireland (but there's likely not time). We do NOT need playgrounds or kid museums or kid-friendly hotels/food (although family-friendly hotels sometimes are the only ones with space for 6). We like nature and science and art. And anything that would make tween/teen boys say "That was so cool!!"
Thanks for your help!
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 09:06 AM
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two weeks will be quite rushed for just a taste of Scotland, a teensy bit of England, any time in London and flying out of Paris. Absolutely no time to add Ireland too.

In fact w/ a group of six I would limit myself to Edinburgh/London/Paris (Truth be told I'd do Edinburgh, a few days in the Scottish Countryside and London . . . but since you are flying out of Paris that really isn't doable)

Rooms for 6 are just about non-existant -- so depending on your budget you will either need to book two hotels rooms everywhere, stay in dorms in Hostels, or rent apartments (though not in Paris where most short term apartments are illegal)

If you have 2 full weeks/14 nights on the ground (a 16 day trip all together) I'd probably plan 3 nights in Edinburgh, a travel day with 5 or 6 nights in London, a travel day w/ and 5 nights in Paris.

If less than that you will need to cut somewhere.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 09:11 AM
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Are you driving or taking trains?

A lot to handle for two weeks - do you want to see London? If not fly from say Manchester or Birmingham to Paris. Suggest you rent car for British part and easily visit castles and go thru lovely countryside.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 09:17 AM
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No need to rent a car IF you are limiting yourselves to Edinburgh London and Paris - which would totally fill 2 weeks. You would want a (very large) car for any days in the Scottish countryside.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 10:41 AM
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We haven't decided yet about trains vs planes vs automobiles. The flights from Edinburgh to London were $50 at one site....which is worth it for the savings in time. But we would enjoy some countryside driving at some point. We're assuming we'll be in Edinburgh, London and Paris, with a trip to a castle somewhere. The kids have never been to any of these areas, but the parents have spent between a little and a lot of time there. Thanks for the tips.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 10:43 AM
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Yes if you limit yourselves to Edinburgh, London and Paris no car but if you want to see Scotland, England and Ireland-the countryside then maybe.

All depends perhaps on whether or not you want to see London and if you have not been there I would - lots of things so cool there as in Paris and Edinburgh - see we all need more info to really answer your query.

Edinburgh, London and Paris would take most of the two weeks - and do as janis says spend a few days in the Scottish Highlands- either by your own car or a tour from Edinburgh.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 10:46 AM
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Perfectly good castles IN Edinburgh and London.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 10:50 AM
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We're assuming we'll be in Edinburgh, London and Paris, with a trip to a castle somewhere>

Stirling Castle is an easy train ride or drive from Edinburgh - Braveheart Associations and of course Edinburgh Castle is one of the most famous and awesome in Europe:

https://www.google.com/search?q=stir...HY8CC1AQsAQIGQ

But if taking trains check out www.nationalrail.co.uk for lots of info - For Eurostar trains to Paris www.eurostar.com -book early for sweet discount.

Trains may be cheaper than flying to London when everything is considered - getting to and from airports-and even as quick perhaps - and the East Coast Rail line Edinburgh to Newcastle is pretty scenic- see something of Britain in between Edinburgh and London vs nothing when flying.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 10:51 AM
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>>The flights from Edinburgh to London were $50 at one site....which is worth it for the savings in time.<<

Have you already booked?? If not don't fly! Take the train. Door to door is faster Edinburgh to London than flying is. No need to head out to the airport early, nor schlepp in to London from the airport. City centre to city centre in a little over 4 hours.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 11:16 AM
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No, the only flights booked so far are to and from Europe. I'm trying to work out a loose plan and narrow down to a limited number of do-able options to present to the kids for their input/vote. So, unfortunately, I don't have many details to share since the only thing locked in are the arrival and departure cities. But yes, London and Paris are sure bets - Edinburgh/Scotland is where I need to do some research on city vs country and the time required for either option. And then, how much time in London and Paris has to be worked out. Even though we parents have spent some time there, we've never done it in this way (the country-hopping and the kid-toting). Thanks so much for the train tips.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 11:24 AM
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Can you give us a more precise lay out of your time. You say you fly into EDI and 2 weeks later fly out of CDG.

Is that 14 days from arrival at EDI to the day you fly out? (so 12.5 usable days since you can't really do anything on your departure day) Or is it a fungible 'about 2 weeks' -- 13 days or 15 days or something else?

That really will make a difference re how much you can accomplish and fit in. And do account for the first day at least and possibly 2+ days some of you being jet lagged so doing much and especially driving may not be in the cards.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 11:58 AM
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Right - forgot to clarify: arrive in EDI on a Fri morning and leave CDG on Fri afternoon. So 14 nights but only the arrival Fri is a usable day (but limited by jet lag/red eye factor). And with the jet lag, the suggestion to book a tour of the Highlands with transportation provided by someone else seems like an excellent approach.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 01:48 PM
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I'm biased because I don't love London, but what about three nights in Edinburgh, three nights in the Highlands (get to Eilean Donan if you can - I wouldn't bother going inside, but the outside is awesome, in my opinion), three nights in Dublin, and then five nights in Paris to finish? I know this didn't get you to England at all, but I loved Scotland and Ireland much more than London.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 03:17 PM
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To give up time in London to substitute . . . Dublin?? Not a fair trade IMO/IME

lclutz: Definitely consider Rabbies -- here are their offerings out of Edinburgh.

https://www.rabbies.com/en/tour-scot...from-edinburgh
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 04:04 PM
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Agree. Dublin instead of London is silly, unless you have already spent a good bit of time in London.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 04:34 PM
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While I personally could spend lots of time in Scotland and Ireland, for this trip we plan to include London. It's high on the kids' list, gets covered in their history classes more than Scotland and Ireland (so the historical aspects will be familiar) and, of course, Harry Potter lived there.

Thanks for the Rabbies site. Lots of good options.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 04:56 PM
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London needs so much time! But you could easily sub it into the itinerary I mentioned - I'd probably steal a day from Paris to give to London. I also loved Rabbie's - I did their Isle of Skye tour.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 05:00 PM
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BTW, London is much more kid friendly than Paris.
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 05:14 PM
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historytraveler - in what way is Paris less kid-friendly?
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Old Jan 2nd, 2017 | 05:35 PM
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There are more things for kids to see and do in London than Paris.
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