Please remeber to tip!!!

Jan 20th, 2003, 02:43 PM
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i have to say.. i dont know if it's me being lucky or not... but i have NEVER had staff come up and beg or heavily remind me to tip or share stories of family back home needing money.. and just so noone gets the wrong idea.. i usually do all i can to eliviate extra staff work and am not demanding and usually tip the recomended amount. If everyone does tip the recomended amount than the staff is paid adequately. As for people who have the mindset that the employer should pay their employees and it shouldnt be the customers responsibility.. i agree.. BUT untill they do there is still a need to tip so please do! _and just remember a well paid staff is usually more accomodating and friendly_
 
Jan 20th, 2003, 10:17 PM
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Paul Therault
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You are just wasting your breath Mai. There are very negative people on this thread that will always look for a reason not to tip.
Something as trivial as not having the salt shaker filled.

Some do not realize that they are being waited on for 3 meals per day and if that was the case in the states tipping on ships is bargain.

Bottom line: If the employees are paid more you will pay more for your cruise ... MUCH MORE. So if you do not like the tipping guidelines do not cruise.

But you see all the negative people still cruise. They just like to complain and get others all worked up. It happens on many threads, not just this one that pertains to tipping.

This thread will go on forever or until Fodors ends the replies.

Paul
 
Jan 20th, 2003, 11:07 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble but I twrote in before and do tip VERY well, way over the daily suggested rate. I also understand a lot of people are cheapskates and don't tip at all. However, the cruisers who should not have to feel the pressure since the cruise lines do not pay their employees. We are there to relax.
 
Jan 21st, 2003, 05:47 AM
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Hey xxx, To avoid the pressures of having to tip, why don't you avoid the mass market lines and sail the all inclusives? There are certainly enough of them (Seaborne, Radisson Silversea) to give you choice and peace of mind.
 
Jan 21st, 2003, 06:12 AM
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Oh Paul......who says people on this board to not tip? Are you just running your mouth AGAIN!

 
Jan 21st, 2003, 10:30 AM
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xxx
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Thanks for the suggestion Jude. I have looked into those lines but unfortunately it's hard to find some that work w/ my husband's schedule. We live on the west coast & don't like to fly more than 5 hrs. to get to the port. Haven't been able to convince him to go for more than 7 days yet. I have heard wonderful things about those companies though. Eventually.....
 
Jan 21st, 2003, 11:36 AM
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Of course all of the ship's crew should get a decent income! That's not an issue.

I just returned from a 7-day RCI cruise and enjoyed excellent service all around. RCI tells us exactly how much to "tip," down to the $5.25 for the headwaiter. We can prepay this (I did), and give the employee a voucher to cash in later. This being the case, why not simply add the "recommended tip" to the cost of the trip and boast that there is no tipping allowed on board. Everyone would be happier, certainly the staff, which would not have to worry about deadbeats.

Actually, what irked me was the constant tipping on shore to move baggage in small increments: Porter from pier to bus, bus driver to load it into bus, skycap to check it in at the airport. All of these people should be paid by the cruise line and should not have to depend on tips. The cruise line should cover this and make the cost of the trip whatever it really is, including these services, which virtually everyone needs.

It's part of the larger issue of tipping, of course, in which the U.S. is in the rear guard. Most of the rest of the First World has long since abandoned this demeaning practice. But that's another story....
 
Jan 21st, 2003, 10:16 PM
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The people that help you with your luggage before you are actually on the ship are not employees of the cruise line.

Paul
 
Jan 22nd, 2003, 05:57 AM
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Yes Paul that's true, but they seem to imply that your luggage may not make it to the appropriate places if you don't tip them.

If they are to be guilty by association then the cruise lines should have some protocols in place to govern their behavior.
 
Jan 22nd, 2003, 07:01 AM
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I've never heaed a porter, airport baggage handler etc ever say or even intimate that my luggage wouldn't arrive if I didn't tip. That's a supposition on your part. I personally tip them in recognition of their hard work. If you don't want to tip, just don't. Beside, cruise ship stevedores and airport curbside baggage handlers make very good livings.
 
Jan 22nd, 2003, 07:16 AM
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Ummmm no Jude! I was specifically told that if I didn't tip, my luggage may not get there (the ship). This was on a RCCL ship.

I would not have brought it up if I didn't have a personal experience with this.
 
Jan 22nd, 2003, 07:35 AM
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Jude,
You are very lucky if you have always had pleasant, hardworking porters that you felt really deserved a tip. On all 3 of our past cruises the porters have either said it straight out or with a very obvious insinuation that if we didn't tip, our bags might not make it on the ship. On our last cruise, two members of our party did not yet have room assignments, and I had been told that when we got to the port we should ask to see the a for the cabin assignments so it could be written in on the luggage tags. When I asked the porter where I could find "the list" he practically threw it in my face and then he still tried to take the bags before we could get the cabin numbers written in. He then proceeded to count the number of people & bags he had taken and tell us exactly how much we "owed" him.
I have no problem tipping for good service, but isn't it the porters' job to take my bag? Are they not being paid by the port facility and working strictly on tips? How does everyone else handle this practice that, based on my limited experience, could almost be equated to blackmail? Our past cruises have all been out of Miami; we leave next week on a Celebrity cruise out of Ft. Lauderdale and I am hoping the porter experience will be a more positive one (although I'm not counting on it).
 
Jan 22nd, 2003, 07:41 AM
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Laura
Just returned from a cruise out of Ft Lauderdale and experienced the same. The porter actually said "our bags might not make it".
 
Jan 22nd, 2003, 08:09 AM
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xman
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So you can obviously see Jude I am not the only one with this experience. So there is NO supposition on my part.
 
Jan 22nd, 2003, 09:01 AM
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The way I see it is, you are about to board a beautiful ship and sail on a wonderful vacation, the last thing anyone should be concerned about is giving someone a couple bucks per bag.

Give the tip and don't give another thought. It is not a perfect world and everything cannot always go our way. It is a lot easier to swim with the current instead of against it.
 
Jan 22nd, 2003, 09:01 AM
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So you've got a choice to make. Carry your own bags onn board, tip them, or don't tip and take your chances. That's life. What else is new?
 
Jan 22nd, 2003, 09:56 AM
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Really? Should we carry them before or after they tell us not to carry them on board?

Bottom line is that the cruise lines portray cruises as being a hassle free all inclusive type vacation. The seasoned cruiser knows to bring along added tip money for the extra personnel that are involved.

If these porters are part of the chain of custody for your belongings then that cruise lines need to monitor their behavior better.
 
Jan 23rd, 2003, 07:22 AM
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Thank you Paul for your message.

I was actually offended when someone suggested that my father worked on a "slave" ship or asking if I were an employee "begging" for tips and so I steered away from the travel talk at fodors because I found myself having to explain and defend the logistics and cost of my cruise to prove that I wasnt a hypocrite when my only objective was to express the importance that was given to me by my father and information that a person may not know.
 
Jan 23rd, 2003, 08:40 AM
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Question, I always make it a point to have my sons carry their own bags, and I carry mine. Are you saying they are aggresive and will try to take the bags from you if you say "no thanks, I don't need any help? Why do you have to have anyone carry your bags?
 
Jan 23rd, 2003, 12:01 PM
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Frugal
When the shuttle drops you and your bags off at the cruise port, your bags are taken from the port to the ship by someone other than you. You find them by your stateroom door when you arrive.
 

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