Why is this so difficult?
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Why is this so difficult?
I've never been to the Carribbean and I have been researching "the island" for weeks already. I'm looking for clean, safe, not too touristy, not crowded, scenic (lush better than desert), good roads / taxi services (so that I'm not confined to the hotel), island.
Thought about Anguilla but heard it was very expensive and not too lush.
Thought about St. Lucia but heard that it didn't have good roads and taxis were expensive.
Thought about St. Barths - heard this is expensive but fits many of the criteria - this may be the one (please confirm).
Thought about St. Thomas (Ritz Carlton) but heard it wasn't too safe and would be confined to resort (although a top class resort).
Thought about Aruba but its a desert and too Americanized.
Thought about Grand Cayman but heard it was too crowded, expensive and just a bunch of condos.
Can anyone stop the madness (I know I may be too hard to please / searching for perfection). Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Ed
Thought about Anguilla but heard it was very expensive and not too lush.
Thought about St. Lucia but heard that it didn't have good roads and taxis were expensive.
Thought about St. Barths - heard this is expensive but fits many of the criteria - this may be the one (please confirm).
Thought about St. Thomas (Ritz Carlton) but heard it wasn't too safe and would be confined to resort (although a top class resort).
Thought about Aruba but its a desert and too Americanized.
Thought about Grand Cayman but heard it was too crowded, expensive and just a bunch of condos.
Can anyone stop the madness (I know I may be too hard to please / searching for perfection). Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Ed
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Ed, you may as well stay home!! With that out of the way, only St. Barts and Grand Cayman have the BEST standard of living, but St. Barts is very hilly, so the "road" question could be a problem! There has also been a recent water shortage on the island, so you better investigate that one before you go! Other than that, I would turn around and head for the islands of Kauai and the Big Island in Hawaii!!
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Seems like you are spending lots of time listening and relying on "rumors" rather than getting the facts. Each island has its pluses and minuses but when thinking Carib, I think beach! Decide what you DO want and go from there ... all the rest falls into place! My take is that Anguilla can be expensive if you take the "high end route." There are plenty of moderate places to stay as well as inexpensive restaurants (altho have to admit I didn't try any!). Think it is pretty much on a par with St. Barth's by the way if you take the high end! Taxis are outrageously expensive, I think, and it pays to rent a car (but that is true for many islands!). Don't know who told you that you couldn't leave the Ritz on STT. They know not of what they speak! Out on quiet East End with easy conveniece to Red Hook for ferrys to St. John and the BVI's. You heard right about Aruba but maybe worrying about roads and infrastructre that's a good place! All American highrise hotels with lots of timeshares between tho! And since it is your first time, maybe the "familiarity" would give you the comfort level you seek. St. Lucia not a destination that I would choose, but others love it. St. John roads might freak you out - hilly curvey with drop dead views!! Picking an island is a tradeoff! You have to decide what you want the most and what you will compromise with! Why not a cruise, altho they are NOT for me, you could make several stops and check out what makes you feel "good" and would like to return to!
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Thanks for the feedback “anonymous” – wanted more info on St. Thomas. We were thinking that we stay at the Ritz (because it’s such a nice place) and venture to STJ and BVIs for the day. If I stay at Ritz at STT, how safe would it be to venture out to the East End and the ferry to STJ (and come back later at night)? - Do I need a car to do this? I’m okay with it but my wife would be “freaked out” if she was approached by aggressive panhandlers, taxi drivers (who want to take your luggage) – especially on our vacation. How long does it take from the Ritz to STJ and BVIs? Must a car be rented to explore STT and STJ? Thanks!
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Ed, "Anonymous" above is WRONG about St. Thomas! You will NOT want to leave the grounds at all -- certainly not to go out and explore a place that looks like THAT!! Yes, the Ritz is a gorgoues, secluded property and you both will love it, but just don't plan on leaving the grounds!
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I am "anonymous" - sorry for the mispost and can't figure how it even happened. Rather than getting into a battle with "Tim" who obviously has a grudge, let me tell you about the Ritz.
It is a magnificant property with outstanding service and possibly unparalleled on St. Thomas. It is on the East End with only a short 10 minute or less ride to Red Hook. I have not yet encountered a panhandler, aggressive taxi drivers (other than in Charlotte Amalie where everyone is asking if you want to go back to the ship brings a smile and a "no, thank you."). Sure, Charlotte Amalie can be an adventure and not one that you would do at nite alone on the back streets of CA!
The Ritz has great proximity to some good restaurants on East End but the taxi ride to FrenchTown or even Town for a couple of the outstanding ones can add a bunch to your dinner tab! You definately will want to explore the island - maybe spin around one day to the scenic high points and the taxi drivers on both STT and STJ would be most happy to accomodate if you didn't want to do the rental car routine. Those places on island that you may not want to explore are easily identified. St. John is a 15 minute ferry and, depending on the island, the BVI's can be about hour away depending on boat and destination. (I would taxi to the dock rather than try to find a parking place and pay for parking) or you can take the rental to St. John on the car ferry - but check with the agencies - not all allow it! The Ritz has fabulous day trips on their cat, Lady Lindsey, with even a full day to Jost (definately a winner!) and a wonderful sunset cruise! Of course, you would use due caution where ever you go but St. Thomas is NOT the kinda island where you will want to stay holed up on your resort! If that were true there would be a proliferation of all inclusives like some other islands and there are only two. I happen to enjoy my time on St. Thomas (and I do spend a lot of time there!) and have never felt threatened or even intimidated! If you decide, go to www.scubamom.com and read her review of the Ritz - but be aware that they are explanding and also building a Ritz Club next door but that should not impact upon your stay! And I seriously doubt that if St. Thomas were such an awful island, high end developers (like the Ritz and Four Seasons) would not be investing in high end places on the island!! It is a busy island, in some places, it does have tons of socio-economic problems and it has its quirks. But, the good hardworking island residents are wonderfully friendly and welcoming. We are hopefully headed there for Carnival in a week or so and I can't wait to get back on island!! You might also want to check out www.caneelbay.com on St. John - those 7 wonderful beaches on property are hard to beat!!
It is a magnificant property with outstanding service and possibly unparalleled on St. Thomas. It is on the East End with only a short 10 minute or less ride to Red Hook. I have not yet encountered a panhandler, aggressive taxi drivers (other than in Charlotte Amalie where everyone is asking if you want to go back to the ship brings a smile and a "no, thank you."). Sure, Charlotte Amalie can be an adventure and not one that you would do at nite alone on the back streets of CA!
The Ritz has great proximity to some good restaurants on East End but the taxi ride to FrenchTown or even Town for a couple of the outstanding ones can add a bunch to your dinner tab! You definately will want to explore the island - maybe spin around one day to the scenic high points and the taxi drivers on both STT and STJ would be most happy to accomodate if you didn't want to do the rental car routine. Those places on island that you may not want to explore are easily identified. St. John is a 15 minute ferry and, depending on the island, the BVI's can be about hour away depending on boat and destination. (I would taxi to the dock rather than try to find a parking place and pay for parking) or you can take the rental to St. John on the car ferry - but check with the agencies - not all allow it! The Ritz has fabulous day trips on their cat, Lady Lindsey, with even a full day to Jost (definately a winner!) and a wonderful sunset cruise! Of course, you would use due caution where ever you go but St. Thomas is NOT the kinda island where you will want to stay holed up on your resort! If that were true there would be a proliferation of all inclusives like some other islands and there are only two. I happen to enjoy my time on St. Thomas (and I do spend a lot of time there!) and have never felt threatened or even intimidated! If you decide, go to www.scubamom.com and read her review of the Ritz - but be aware that they are explanding and also building a Ritz Club next door but that should not impact upon your stay! And I seriously doubt that if St. Thomas were such an awful island, high end developers (like the Ritz and Four Seasons) would not be investing in high end places on the island!! It is a busy island, in some places, it does have tons of socio-economic problems and it has its quirks. But, the good hardworking island residents are wonderfully friendly and welcoming. We are hopefully headed there for Carnival in a week or so and I can't wait to get back on island!! You might also want to check out www.caneelbay.com on St. John - those 7 wonderful beaches on property are hard to beat!!
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Hi Ed: You seem very nervous about choosing a Caribbean vacation. I have been lucky enough to have been to many of the islands your are thinking about. Based on all your criteria I can remove almost all of them off the list. Aggressive peddlers in Grenada,St Lucia,dry islands like Aruba , Curacao and Margarita Island, rough roads in St Thomas, Dominica, expensive taxis in Grand Cayman. The one island that might satisfy all your needs would be Barbados. It is lush, beautiful beaches, easy to drive around on your own and the people are not overly agressive trying to make a living. Barbados in my book is not a 10 out of 10 in any specific area but overall it is a very reliable destination. There is good variety of hotel and restaurant choices for different budgets and lots to do from water sports to taking in some history. We are heading for Jamaica in May but I don't think you would even contemplate that island!!Karen
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Larry, yes Barbados has good roads (but most are poorly marked), some beautiful beaches (I agree) and is clean (mostly but not like Cayman or Aruba or even Cancun) and safe (mostly petty theft & daylight beach muggings, guess you were lucky). I agree it's one of the better islands but everyone's experience is different.
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Thanks to all for their suggestions and thoughtful insight. I read some posts about Barbados and some said it was not as safe as some of the islands that I was considering. I think I'm leaning toward St. John or Anguilla. Anguilla offers safety and not a lot of people (which I like) - how about St. John - is it crowded / touristy being that it's a small island?
Ed
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My vote is for St John. Check out "police blotter" in St. Thomas in VI Daily News. Quite a bit of activity. Fly in then ferry out. You can see all the other island from St. John. If you like resort type accomodations, Westin or Canaeel Bay. You will have peace of mind. Peaceful friendly island-close to all.
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St. John is not as busy as some of the other islands especially in the "off season." Since most of the island is Nat'l Park, those areas do remain undeveloped. The beaches are lovely and the roads certainly are exciting! It is lush and tropical often with grapetree leaves right down to the beach line. Great snorkling from some of the beaches and easy access to the BVI's. Anguilla, on the other hand, is not very lush and green. Driving was easy except there are NO signs but the Islanders are ever so friendly when you get lost! We often went in search of our nite's choice for dining during daylite so that we wouldn't get lost at nite! The beaches are wonderful there also but I didn't find the snorkling as good as on St. John but then we didn't go to the recommended beaches for that. Easy convenience to both SXM and St. Barth's for day trips too via ferry or plane. I definately think that the dining was better, overall, on Anguilla than St. John. Many people opt for villas or self-catering on St. John since the resorts are limited. Caneel Bay is wonderful; on Anguilla, you may want to see if Cap Juluca is offering any "specials" - someone posted that they were offering rooms @$300 a nite but that seems hard for me to believe. It is wonderful! There is also some villa/resorts there too. Hard for me to pick one island over the other for beautiful beaches!! Food nod goes to Anguilla; resort nod, Anguilla. You can fly directly to Anguilla (AXA) by transferring in SanJuan while to get to St. John you have to fly than ferry to STJ.
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Have been to Grand Cayman several times and am going again next month. I have never found it to be crowded and there is virtually no crime. Do not know about the price of taxis because it is a very easy island to navigate around in and a jeep is only $235 a week. They have beautiful beaches and I have yet to find a bad restaurant. It is really a great choice for a first trip to the Caribbean. However, my first trip to the Caribbean was Aruba and we loved it too. It is a desert island, but the resorts are lush and green. The only downfall to Aruba in my book is the wind. And some days it is not as bad as others. While we were there, there was only one really bad wind day. The one thing Aruba has going for it is that it is out of the hurricane belt. Believe me, you will just have to pick an island and go. You cannot go by what you read that someone else likes. We went to St. Lucia because everyone on the boards was raving about it and it was the vacation from hell for us. I would never return there, even if you paid for my trip and gave me money to spend!!
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Check out St. Kitts. It is volcanic, the roads are okay with plenty of helpful taxi drivers, and it is not touristy at all. Eating out is not expensive (lobster, fixings, and drinks for 4 adults = $100 USD). There is alot to see and do.
Depending on where you are coming from, it is easy to get to. There are charters from the east coast, midwest and Canada. Otherwise, American Airlines (of course!) has several daily flights from San Juan, with just over an hours flying time.
I do not feel uncomfortable walking around SK. Crime is something they take very seriously and they still carry out public hangings for certain offenses, so crime is pretty well deterred. Of course, you must use common sense and not display flashy jewelry or lots of money or walk in back alleys at night, but those are precautions I would take anywhere.
Depending on where you are coming from, it is easy to get to. There are charters from the east coast, midwest and Canada. Otherwise, American Airlines (of course!) has several daily flights from San Juan, with just over an hours flying time.
I do not feel uncomfortable walking around SK. Crime is something they take very seriously and they still carry out public hangings for certain offenses, so crime is pretty well deterred. Of course, you must use common sense and not display flashy jewelry or lots of money or walk in back alleys at night, but those are precautions I would take anywhere.
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Ed, I have a really good suggestion based on your criteria, Harbour Island in the Bahamas, small intimate hotels right on the most amazing stretch of beach, great food, and lots of things to do.
The island is small only 3 miles by a half mile so you can walk anywhere and there is no crime on island so you can walk anywhere day or night.
There are lots of taxi's and each ride is $3.00 per person anywhere you go on the island. The roads are fine, so you should not have any problems.
You might try the website for the island www.briland.com (say Harbour Island fast 3 times) Briland is what the natives call the island and they are Brilanders.
Lots of interesting history to the island and it looks like a Martha's Vineyard of the Carribean, lots of flavor to the island and warm welcoming people.
Have a wonderful time on your trip wherever you choose to go.
tweedy
The island is small only 3 miles by a half mile so you can walk anywhere and there is no crime on island so you can walk anywhere day or night.
There are lots of taxi's and each ride is $3.00 per person anywhere you go on the island. The roads are fine, so you should not have any problems.
You might try the website for the island www.briland.com (say Harbour Island fast 3 times) Briland is what the natives call the island and they are Brilanders.
Lots of interesting history to the island and it looks like a Martha's Vineyard of the Carribean, lots of flavor to the island and warm welcoming people.
Have a wonderful time on your trip wherever you choose to go.
tweedy
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Thanks again for all the good suggestions! I've narrowed it down to either Anguilla, St. John, Harbour Island. Any comments on selecting between those finalists?
We may be bored after a couple of days - how's the travel options to other islands from these three? With Anguilla, we could ferry over to St. Thomas. St. Thomas can be reached by ferry from St. John. Don't know too much about traveling to & from Harbour Island. Which island is safest? cleanest? the one with the least people? (sounds like Harbour Island for the least people).
Ed
We may be bored after a couple of days - how's the travel options to other islands from these three? With Anguilla, we could ferry over to St. Thomas. St. Thomas can be reached by ferry from St. John. Don't know too much about traveling to & from Harbour Island. Which island is safest? cleanest? the one with the least people? (sounds like Harbour Island for the least people).
Ed