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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 08:57 AM
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catera,
I wish i had seen that show, as I have been trying to keep up with that other story as well. I am sure her mom knows the story better than the article that I read, because it said they were docked in Aruba.
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 10:13 AM
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It looks as though Amy has not been found either??
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 10:40 AM
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I wonder why the editors have not responded to your question Larry?
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 11:06 AM
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She was asked to visit Carlos & Charlies while docked at Aruba but she declined. She spent the day on Aruba with her family and returned with them. She was last seen as the ship approached Curacao but was not onboard when they were ready to disembark. Here are the details http://www.tggweb.com/amybradley/index.htm and at http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/kidnap/bradley.htm
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 11:14 AM
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Jacketwatch; all the facts? Well, here's what we've been hearing on CNN. March 29, she was seen with the 3 men at Carlos 'N Charlies. She left with them in a "grey" car. The 3 men took her to Arashi Beach in NW Aruba in the wee hours of Monday, March 30th. Then, they dropped her off at the Holdiay Inn in the early am hours of Monday, March 30. For several days, nothing happened, but on June 3rd, that Thursday, the 3 men were not arrested but detained and questioned briefly, then released. One was a very rich young man, whose father was a high-ranking Dutch judge living on Aruba. Their car did not undergo forensic lab tests. They said they dropped her off at her hotel around 2am, and noticed her stumble, and that a black security guard approached her. They drove off. By then, the FBI was called in and on June 4th, last Thursday, searched the hotel the security guards worked at, which was closed for renovations. The next day, June 5, last Sunday, the two security guards were arrested; they're still in jail. 3 cars were also confiscated and underwent forensic testing. It wasn't until yesterday, June 9th, that the rich man and his two friends were arrested. The authorities checked the video cam from the Holiday Inn, and found that the car never was seen dropping the victim off at her Holiday Inn the night they said they did. The FBI took photos of the rich kid and his two friends back to the U.S., and showed them to the victim's friends who were with her on the trip; they Id'd the rich guy as the one who "hung out" in the places they visited during their stay in Aruba, including Carlos 'N Charlies. I think it is wrong the 3 men weren't detained, like to poorer security guards, and had their car forensically checked. Everything is finally falling into place, but it should have been done sooner. The Aruba authorities are smarter than you think, and aren't backward in their knowledge of criminal investigations; they're several murders every year on Aruba. Robert
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 11:28 AM
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That's the way that I've seen it, too, Robert. I've wondered from the begining why they didn't detain the 3 guys she left with initially. I wonder if the judge had anything to do with it? Hmmmmm?
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 12:12 PM
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Robert there was one myrder last yr. in Aruba and lets face neither you nor I know anything really esp. inre to the Aruban authorities expertise in this criminal matter. How on earth could you possibly know? You don't and neither do I. I will wiat for all the fact to come in before I conclude anything. We also know your flair for literary license but don't get carried away with yourself.
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 12:20 PM
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It is sad that if you have money or status..you can do just about whatever you want.

I live in NC..an old man was just released from jail after serving over 30 YEARS FOR STEALING A TV in the early 70s.He was supposed to have life in prison.He said that he has seen rapist,murderers and child molestors released before him.It is pitiful because how will he know how to survive outside of jail..jail is all that he has known.
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 12:28 PM
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I just read on my local news that an attorney for the Dutch boy says that Natalee went to Arashi Beach with the 3 boys and had sexual contact with the one Dutch boy.
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 12:29 PM
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Larry - lol. Looks like Robert is up to his stories again,,, geez
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 12:37 PM
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MIM04: LOL! Keep working on it and look out Ludlum Clancy, etc.
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 04:30 PM
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Larry - right! too funny. It just cracks me up! Some have a lot of time on their hands, I guess! Where is your next trip , BTW?
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 04:34 PM
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Around 2.5 mos. from now it will be an Alaska cruise on Princess, after which we will stay in Seattle for 3 days. What about you?
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Old Jun 10th, 2005, 04:55 PM
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Wow, that sounds great! We are moving this Summer (not sure where yet) anyway, at some point we will go on a trip not sure where. Our next big trip though right now that is planned is St Barths for 2 weeks over Thanksgiving. Needless to say I am pretty excited!
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jacketwatch and M104; There you go again. I don't know what's going on, but like other posters, like Statia, I'm merely expressing my thoughts about what could have happened. Turns out one of the 3 men, which included the rich son of a high-ranking Dutch judge in Aruba, confessed. If there wasn't people asking questions, the two poor black security guards would be in jail facing a trial, and the three richer men would have been free. That was a quote from one of the U.S. authorities on Aruba, not me. Once again, nothing wrong with inquiring about things; there is nothing wrong with questioning the facts on hand, when they seem suspicious. I feel sorry for the parents and loved ones of the victim and perpetrators. Robert
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Old Jun 11th, 2005, 05:10 AM
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Robert: First of all let me say I wish to express my condolences to the family and friends of Natalee. Such a waste of a promising life is sad beyond words. I disagree as noted with your idea and as such am expressing my opinion as you are expressing yours. No there is nothing wrong with investigating the story. My disagreement stems from how the story was interpreted. I also disagree with your view of this being a case of rich vs. poor, the haves vs. the have nots. BTW how do you know that the other 2 were rich? And even if they were how do you know there wasn't an unfair and impartial process in this investigation? If it wasn't impartial then how did the "rich": guys get nabbed? You can't assume bias but I think you do. And Robert don't break you arm patting yourself on the back as if those with your sense of righteousness prevailed over the selfish rich and powerful. This is self embellishment. Thats my opinion. Larry.
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Old Jun 11th, 2005, 06:21 AM
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Bottom line ...... someones child is missing . A parents nightmare .
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Old Jun 11th, 2005, 07:06 AM
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True indeed Faith. I hope whatever happened to her be revealed asap so the family and friends can at least know the real story.
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Old Jun 11th, 2005, 07:29 AM
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The bottom line really is knowing what happened. This mom can't give in and go home until she knows. If there is the slightest possibility that Natalee is alive, she needs her to know that she didn't give up on her. It is so much more cruel to not know.
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Old Jun 11th, 2005, 08:00 AM
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MIMO4: WOW! St. Barts in Nov.! Sounds great.
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