Living and working in Canada
Jun 16th, 2007, 01:31 PM
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If the people of London England want to disagree, let them.
But but but. . . do they have any evidence, or the numbers, to back up their point of view?
According to Stats Canada (2001 census), there are a total of 93 different ethnic groups living in Toronto (in codswallop infested apartments
).
But but but. . . do they have any evidence, or the numbers, to back up their point of view?
According to Stats Canada (2001 census), there are a total of 93 different ethnic groups living in Toronto (in codswallop infested apartments
).
Jun 16th, 2007, 04:56 PM
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"The 2001 Canadian census indicates 42.8% of Toronto's population being of a visible minority. In March 2005, Statistics Canada projected that the visible minority proportion will comprise a majority in Toronto by 2012."
http://tinyurl.com/yqymp7
"The City and the 32 boroughs had an estimated 7,517,700 inhabitants as of mid-2005...In the 2001 census, 71.15% of these seven and a half million people classed their ethnic group as white (classified as White British (59.79%), White Irish (3.07%) or "Other White" (8.29%))"
http://tinyurl.com/2qp3z8
London = 71% "white"
Toronto = 57% "non-visible minority"
http://tinyurl.com/yqymp7
"The City and the 32 boroughs had an estimated 7,517,700 inhabitants as of mid-2005...In the 2001 census, 71.15% of these seven and a half million people classed their ethnic group as white (classified as White British (59.79%), White Irish (3.07%) or "Other White" (8.29%))"
http://tinyurl.com/2qp3z8
London = 71% "white"
Toronto = 57% "non-visible minority"
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:12 AM
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PrincessAurora:
That would be an easy choice for me.
Calgary.
As a resident of Sydney you would find Toronto a big city and therefore similar in may ways.
Calgary on the other hand being a western city, also big but friendly where Toronto is not.
Alberta has a population of about 2 million in all. With fewer people, those here are more dependant on each other as opposed to Toronto where people are much more crowded and competative, therefore not as friendly.
Calgary enjoys winter "warm ups" in the form of chinook winds. These are warm winds from the south along the Rocky Mountains. These winds bring warmer temperatures at various times during the winter. You would likely find that more comfortable.
Being about 90 km from the mountains, it is possible to go to Banff for the week end and still have much of that week end to enjoy yourself, summer or winter.
The Rocky Mountains are truly an experience not to be missed.
If you get a week or so free in summer, driving to Banff, then north up along the mountains to Lake Louise, the Columbia Ice Fields and on to Jasper, to Edmonton and then south to Calgary makes a very enjoyable short trip. If this drive is taken before June or in September there will be less tourists and more wild animals to be seen.
Calgary to Banff is about 90 km. Banff to Jasper is about 300 km. Jasper to Edmonton is about 250 km and Edmonton to Calgary is 300 km. Distances are approximate. Speed limits vary fromn 90 to 110 km/hr. Roads are wide and two lanes each way for most of that drive.
You might even like to visit West Edmonton Mall, Canada's greatest shopping eye-sore. Mega mall which I stay away from as much as possible but for some strange reason, people flock to.
Lots of good restaurants in Calgary, Toronto too I expect.
I have visited Toronto and Sydney and I expect that you could be disappointed in Toronto.
Well, I am a Westerner, grew up in Winnipeg and moved to Edmonton. Here now for comming on 50 years ... so you can understand my predjudice.
Alberta is the only Canadian province where there is no PST [Provincial sales tax about 7%] on retail goods. All of Canada is subject to the PST and an additional GST [Goods and Services tax] of 6%. One more reason for your dollar to go further and to come to Alberta.
Try your AA for more information on touring in Toronto Ontario and Calgary Alberta.
Once you are here in Canada, CAA offers reciprocal service to AA so you can get maps, reservation service and the CAA book on accommodations which also includes good information on the cities, restaurants and things to do and places to visit. That is, if you are a member of AA.
Hope this is of help to you and that you enjoy visitng Canada.
Woodie
That would be an easy choice for me.
Calgary.
As a resident of Sydney you would find Toronto a big city and therefore similar in may ways.
Calgary on the other hand being a western city, also big but friendly where Toronto is not.
Alberta has a population of about 2 million in all. With fewer people, those here are more dependant on each other as opposed to Toronto where people are much more crowded and competative, therefore not as friendly.
Calgary enjoys winter "warm ups" in the form of chinook winds. These are warm winds from the south along the Rocky Mountains. These winds bring warmer temperatures at various times during the winter. You would likely find that more comfortable.
Being about 90 km from the mountains, it is possible to go to Banff for the week end and still have much of that week end to enjoy yourself, summer or winter.
The Rocky Mountains are truly an experience not to be missed.
If you get a week or so free in summer, driving to Banff, then north up along the mountains to Lake Louise, the Columbia Ice Fields and on to Jasper, to Edmonton and then south to Calgary makes a very enjoyable short trip. If this drive is taken before June or in September there will be less tourists and more wild animals to be seen.
Calgary to Banff is about 90 km. Banff to Jasper is about 300 km. Jasper to Edmonton is about 250 km and Edmonton to Calgary is 300 km. Distances are approximate. Speed limits vary fromn 90 to 110 km/hr. Roads are wide and two lanes each way for most of that drive.
You might even like to visit West Edmonton Mall, Canada's greatest shopping eye-sore. Mega mall which I stay away from as much as possible but for some strange reason, people flock to.
Lots of good restaurants in Calgary, Toronto too I expect.
I have visited Toronto and Sydney and I expect that you could be disappointed in Toronto.
Well, I am a Westerner, grew up in Winnipeg and moved to Edmonton. Here now for comming on 50 years ... so you can understand my predjudice.
Alberta is the only Canadian province where there is no PST [Provincial sales tax about 7%] on retail goods. All of Canada is subject to the PST and an additional GST [Goods and Services tax] of 6%. One more reason for your dollar to go further and to come to Alberta.
Try your AA for more information on touring in Toronto Ontario and Calgary Alberta.
Once you are here in Canada, CAA offers reciprocal service to AA so you can get maps, reservation service and the CAA book on accommodations which also includes good information on the cities, restaurants and things to do and places to visit. That is, if you are a member of AA.
Hope this is of help to you and that you enjoy visitng Canada.
Woodie
Jun 24th, 2007, 11:03 AM
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As someone who has lived in none of those places, I would go with Canada over the US based on "exotic-ness". Florida and Minneapolis just don't sound very "world traveler" to me.
Between Toronto and Calgary, I would base my decision on how athletic I am.
If I loved to ski, hike, horseback ride and such, I'd choose Calgary.
If I was less outdoorsy and wanted more culture, etc., I'd choose Toronto.
If I planned on seeing as much as I can while I'm there, I'd choose Toronto. As Apree mentions, there are lots of cheap flights to cities within a short distance. There are also a lot of places within a few hours drive. That would allow you to take weekend trips to lots of other places (Quebec, Montreal, Niagara Falls, New York, Ottawa, etc.) with different flavors. You'll have places to go from Calgary, but they won't vary as much as from Toronto.
If you want to see wilderness or are big into photography, I'd pick Calgary.
Between Toronto and Calgary, I would base my decision on how athletic I am.
If I loved to ski, hike, horseback ride and such, I'd choose Calgary.
If I was less outdoorsy and wanted more culture, etc., I'd choose Toronto.
If I planned on seeing as much as I can while I'm there, I'd choose Toronto. As Apree mentions, there are lots of cheap flights to cities within a short distance. There are also a lot of places within a few hours drive. That would allow you to take weekend trips to lots of other places (Quebec, Montreal, Niagara Falls, New York, Ottawa, etc.) with different flavors. You'll have places to go from Calgary, but they won't vary as much as from Toronto.
If you want to see wilderness or are big into photography, I'd pick Calgary.
Jun 27th, 2007, 07:45 AM
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PrincessAurora:
Unlike Toedtoes, I have visited Sydney, Toronto and I live in Edmonton, 300 km north of Calgary.
It is a mistake to believe that culture can only be found in Toronto and not in Calgary.
Yes, Calgary is renouned for their Stampede but they also have an excellent museum plus theatrical productions. In fact, Calgary is giving California a good run for their money in the movie making industry.
Banff is world famous for their theatre and has the advantage of the magnificent Rocky Mountains and is very near to Calgary.
Edmonton has a symphony orchestra that is also top notch and I can not say the same about Calgary from experiecne but I can say that Calgarians never let Edmonton get ahead of them and vica versa so you can expect to find lots of cultural activity here in the 'wild' west.
Toedtoes - eat your words.
Woodie
Unlike Toedtoes, I have visited Sydney, Toronto and I live in Edmonton, 300 km north of Calgary.
It is a mistake to believe that culture can only be found in Toronto and not in Calgary.
Yes, Calgary is renouned for their Stampede but they also have an excellent museum plus theatrical productions. In fact, Calgary is giving California a good run for their money in the movie making industry.
Banff is world famous for their theatre and has the advantage of the magnificent Rocky Mountains and is very near to Calgary.
Edmonton has a symphony orchestra that is also top notch and I can not say the same about Calgary from experiecne but I can say that Calgarians never let Edmonton get ahead of them and vica versa so you can expect to find lots of cultural activity here in the 'wild' west.
Toedtoes - eat your words.
Woodie
Jun 27th, 2007, 09:47 AM
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Woody - I wasn't trying to imply that Calgary has NO culture, but just saying that if I didn't have any interest in the outdoors that Toronto would hold more interest on the cultural level FOR ME than Calgary would. 
In addition, Toronto is closer to a lot of other cultural areas (Quebec, Montreal, New York, etc.) so you can always take weekend trips to get even more culture. And remember, culture isn't just theatre and classical music. There are ethnic cultures, alternative cultures, etc.
I don't think one is better than the other, but they do offer different levels of interests - it's all a matter of your personal desires.
P.S. My Grandmother was born in Edmonton, so I have nothing against the "wild" west.
In addition, Toronto is closer to a lot of other cultural areas (Quebec, Montreal, New York, etc.) so you can always take weekend trips to get even more culture. And remember, culture isn't just theatre and classical music. There are ethnic cultures, alternative cultures, etc.
I don't think one is better than the other, but they do offer different levels of interests - it's all a matter of your personal desires.
P.S. My Grandmother was born in Edmonton, so I have nothing against the "wild" west.
Jun 27th, 2007, 11:17 AM
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Oh, and if you do end up in Toronto (or if you want to contact them for more info) Toronto has a very establisehd ANZAC club (www.tranzac.org). Cheers!
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