melbourne or sydney?

Old Jun 28th, 2009, 07:16 PM
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melbourne or sydney?

hi there - i am planning a viist for august. would like to visit cairns, alice sprigs/uluru and then visit some wineries. is it to visit melbourne or sydney as my third city? which is closer to wine regions? is one city far better than another?
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Old Jun 28th, 2009, 07:22 PM
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Melbourne is a tad closer to some wine regions, but the August weather can be pretty crook.

Sydney is farther from the wine regions (Orange, Hunter Valley, Mudgee) but the weather may be a bit better - and it's more interesting.
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Old Jun 28th, 2009, 07:39 PM
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Distance wise, there are vineyards/wineries within 50-100 km. [and beyond if you want to go further] of Melbourne whereas for Sydney you're looking at up to about 200 km. and beyond.

Marginal difference re weather but you would generally rug up a bit more for Melbourne though it is not unknown to get a reversal and have some days in Melbourne warmer.

Both cities have their interesting features and one is that Sydney is on a great Harbour but move on past that and you'll find countryside around Melbourne more pristine, especially in wine areas as most of Sydneys is a drier landscape.

Melbourne if anything with the Yarra river bordering the southern edge of the CBD has a more open feel and if you want to see a real game of football, better chance of that in Melbourne, www.afl.com.au .
It also has a larger variety of nightlife spread through and about the CBD.
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Old Jun 28th, 2009, 09:18 PM
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I love Melbourne but for me it would have to be Sydney every time. The harbour, bridge, opera house, ferries, Taronga Zoo Bondi... It is all so iconic. The Hunter Valley is lovely and an easy day trip as are The Blue Mountains which are beautiful and well worth it!
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Drier landscape near Sydney? Not recently!
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I'm talking of the countryside generally Sue and how you have Sydney surrounded by the NPs with many sandstone escarpments and rugged scrubby forested terrain whereas Melbourne has more rolling/undulating rich farmlands and of course the wineries much closer.

The softness of the more temperate rainforest country [that which didn't get burnt] and the greeness of the Yarra Valley, Gippsland and Mornington Peninsula is far more so than what you get about Sydney.

And Michela, it is true that most of what Sydney has for you is about the Harbour, a magnificent Harbour and NPs close by but Melbourne has a Zoo, much developed in recent years about the Yarra, the Hunter is a lot further out and a little ugly in parts compared to the Yarra Valley and for Melbourne there's The Dandenongs, Sherbrooke Forest, Puffing Billy, The Strezleckis, Phillip Island, Wilsons Promontory, Portsea, St. Kilda, Williamstown, The Great Ocean Road, The Goldfields and Spas region so much closer than any to Sydney.

If it's wineries you want boston, Melbourne wins hands down on their closeness.
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I do agree with you, busharanger, about the general landscape. It's just that it's been so wet here in Sydney lately - but beautifully sunny today!
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If you're primarily going to an Aussie city for the wineries, go to Adelaide, hire a car and drive to Barossa Valley. The worst thing about Adelaide from a travel standpoint is that the US-Australia transpacific flights are either Melbourne-LA or Sydney-LA, none are direct from Adelaide.

If the wineries are tangential, go to Sydney. If you've never been to Australia before, go to Sydney. If the wineries are crucial and the choice is Melbourne or Sydney, listen to Bushranger and go to Melbourne.
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