Advise on our itineray for Australia

Oct 9th, 2003, 07:02 PM
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Advise on our itineray for Australia

We are 5 male friends in our late 20's. We will arriving Australia on octber 19. We finally have a possible itineray and want to have some advise about it. Here is:

19/10 arrive at 10:30 am. Walk around royal gardens, opera house, circular quay.
20/ visit the taronga zoo, museum of sydney, sydney center
21/ bondi beach, aquarium,autralian mus.
22/ Car hire. Travel to blue montains
23/ the rocks, bridge and powerhouse mus.
24/ travel to Cairns. City walk
25/ Quicksilver day cruise to the GBR. Snorkel, dive, etc.
26/ Kuranda, Scenic rail and skyrail
27/ pete's Daintree Heritage tour
28/ plane to Alice Springs. 4x4 hire, stay in Alice.
29/ travel to Uluru (depart at 5 am). Walk around Uluru. Sounds of silence dinner.
30/ travel to Kings Canion.
31/ travel to Alice Springs. Plane at 11:30 to Melbourne. Tramcar Dinner
1/11 City walk, Carlton Brewery tour
2/ Car hire. Travel to Ballarat
3/ Open? (any suggestions?)
4/ Return to our country

Any advise is welcome. We have already bought the plane tickets for these dates and the hotels.

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Oct 10th, 2003, 04:44 AM
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Hi Edgar,

I will only comment on your Alice Springs section and that is to say that you seem to be going to a lot of expense on this section.

Personally I would fly to Ayres Rock from Sydney and base yourself from there. You will not get into Alice from Sydney until mid day on the 28th and by the time you get your car and find your accommodation it will be close to 3pm. Not much time left to do anything of worth on that day. It is a good 5 hour drive in a 4X4 to Ayres Rock from Alice Springs so again your not going to get there much before noon, then get your accommodation fixed up etc. There is absolutely nothing of interest to see on the way to the Rock.

You will need to be on your guard at 5 am driving to the Rock as this is still prime Kangaroo time here and there is a large population of roo's at the moment so drive carefully.

I just think you are wasting a lot of your exploring time at the Rock and Kings Canyon by doing your current itinery.

That is just my thoughts of course others may feel differently about.


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Oct 10th, 2003, 01:03 PM
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DO NOT rent a car and drive to the Blue Mountains yourselves. By all means take the train to Parramatta and rent a car there but don't do it in Sydney. See if Alan knows if you can rent a car in the Blue Mountains or if its better to just take a taxi around seeing that there are 5 of you.
Oct 10th, 2003, 02:07 PM
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The itinerary looks good, but I have a few suggestions.
We rented a car and drove to the Blue Mountains - no problem except that the map from the car rental ended way before we got to Blue Mountains, but stayed on road and followed signs. As you enter the area there is a Tourist Info where you can pick up map to get where you're going within the area. Or just follow behind one of the big tour buses, cause they're going where you want to go. With 5 of you a car is cheaper than 5 train tickets, but be sure car is comfortable for 5 and remember - driving is on the left, so you make wide right turns and short left turns.

I wouldn't stay in Cairns, as there's not much of a city or anything to do. Would suggest someplace in Palm Cove about 1/2-hr N of Cairns or further North in Port Douglas. Kuranda and Sky Rail are close to Palm Cove, while the Quicksilver leaves from Port Douglas, though they'll send their Wave Runner to pick up in Palm Cove to take you up. And you should have a transfer for the Daintree tour.

Re trip from Alice to Uluru, do watch the roads for Roos in the dark and remember that it can be real hot in the Red Center, so have hat, water, repellent and be sure that hat has corks hanging from brim to avoid all the flies out there - or get those "no see-um" nets to cover hat - the flies are terrible.

If you already have the car for drive to Ballarat you might want to drive the Great Ocean Road. Most people suggest you make this a two day trip and overnight out on the GOR, but we did it in 1-day by leaving MEL early 8am, made it out (with a few pit stops) to the 12 Apostles and returned on inland road in time for dinner at 6pm.

If you already have your inter-Australia air tickets you can't change much, so stick with what you have - be flexible in SYD as to what you see when as there is so much to do, you might change your mind on some things and also depending on weather - we had in four days, temps in the 70s, low of 50s and high of 100+.

Enjoy your trip.

Oct 10th, 2003, 03:17 PM
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Edgar - do you realise Quicksilver takes hundreds of people - for your ages would recommend (out of Port Douglas) Poseidon for diving/snorkelling or Wavelength for snorkelling only. There are many more reef trips to choose out of Cairns - Ocean Spirit out of Cairns was just awarded "best new product" by Aussie specialists from 200 US travel agents. Cannot agree with Sandi - there are plenty of things to do in Cairns (Palm Cove is a suburb of Cairns) - if you're into night life there's nightclubs, a casino and a huge selection of restaurants in the CBD. Also Flecker Botanical Gardens, the best tropical fruit market outside Asia (Rusty's)- easy access to Frankland Islands and whitewater rafting on Tully River. skyrail is actually closer to Cairns than Palm Cove, although there's not much in it. Kuranda Train leaves from both Cairns CBD and Freshwater Connection (further north). While you're at Skyrail it's worth taking in Tjakupai Aboriginal Cultural Park which is next to bottom Skyrail station. enjoy your trip.
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Oct 11th, 2003, 11:13 PM
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Hi, Edgar G!
Just a couple of points on this itinerary, which is pretty wonderful:
1. Instead of Bondi Beach, I suggest Manly. The beach is just as big, just as scenic, and getting there is much more fun. You can take a ferry which goes clear across the Harbour, or even walk there (three-and-a-half hours of great scenery) by catching a bus to the Spit Bridge and taking a walking track which goes around the foreshores -- you'll cross four or five beaches (going quite close to one of the few Sydney nude bathing areas), through a rainforest, past some aboriginal carvings, and past some of the best views in the southern hemisphere. Then you take the ferry back to Sydney (Circular Quay, near the Rocks).
2. Do the Powerhouse Museum and the Aquarium on the same day, as they are all around Darling Harbour. You might add the Maritime Museum to this list also -- quite close to the Powerhouse. The Australian Museum is very small and will only take you a couple of hours -- why not tack it on to the day in which you're walking through the Gardens and the Opera House.... it's just on the other side of St Mary's Cathedral. The Art Gallery is in this area, also... worth a couple of hours.
3. If you are going to hire a car and go to the Blue Mountains, save yourself time and money by going up there by train (Leura would be the best exit point) and THEN hiring the car. Driving from Sydney to Leura is much slower than the train trip (which is just under two hours) and, since most of it is either suburban traffic or ugly freeway, it's not much fun. The train ride is really quite pleasant (though the trains only go once hourly, so plan your day so that you don't just miss one -- and try to avoid going at the weekend, when the trains are, almost as often as not, out of service or at least curtailed), and you won't be paying the car hire fee to sit at traffic lights. Another alternative is to get off at the foor of the mountains -- Emu Plains, which is as far as you can go on a Daytripper Ticket, which is a very cheap way of getting around -- and hire the car from the place just near the station, on the north exit. You will be out of the traffic, have no wories about getting lost, and you will have the chance to call in at Euroka Clearing (follow the signs from Glenbrook, at the Caltex Service Station -- there's also a good tourist information office at this corner -- and you will see kangaroos by the dozen, in the wild, but quite unconcerned about the presence of humans), which is usually missed by the tourist buses as the road is too narrow for them.
4. You won't need a day to explore the Rocks; a nice way to do the Bridge and the Rocks without doubling back on your tracks might be as follows: take a train across the Bridge to Milson's Point Station. Walk back across the Bridge into the Rocks. After spending ninety minutes exploring the Rocks, walk across to Circular Quay and catch a ferry to Taronga Zoo -- or, if you prefer, catch another ferry to Darling Harbour and do the museums and the aquarium that are in that area. I don't think this would be too strenuous an itinerary for a single day (since you only have five days in total, and you're including the Mountains in this), though other posters may disagree.
Have a great time!
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Oct 12th, 2003, 06:23 AM
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thankyou all for your suggestions. We will now try to make some little changes in our itineray specially in Sidney and Cairns, in Alice Springs there is no much we can change because our hotel bookings and time.
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