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Old Mar 11th, 2010, 07:23 AM
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Tipping guidelines available

Hi everyone,
I received a great tipping guideline sheet from Exotissimo, for Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, and Myanmar, including recommended amounts for guides, drivers, boat crews, hotels and restaurants.

I tried to copy and paste it here, but I couldn't.....it came through as a spreadsheet attachment and got all jumbled up.

So, if you're interested, contact them and I'm sure they'd send you a copy.
"exotissimo.com"
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Old Mar 11th, 2010, 05:29 PM
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Tipping t restaurants is not expected in Asia, but will certainly be accepted. Leave about 5000 - 10,000 kip in Laos, no more. A 50,000 Kip for an all day guide is more than enough. Sometimes companies like exotissimo overdo it.
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Old Mar 11th, 2010, 05:30 PM
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Oh and it is definitely not customary to tip cleaners in a hotel.
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Old Mar 12th, 2010, 05:31 AM
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'Sometimes companies like exotissimo overdo it." - certainly not a source I would trust!
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Old Mar 12th, 2010, 05:46 AM
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i do not like these kinds of things....you tip for good service or exceltional service regardless of what some consider the norm... give what you want and forget guidelines...
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Old Mar 12th, 2010, 07:19 AM
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I've never used this company, but I would take their tipping guidelines with a large serving of salt. They are giving guidelines to travelers who are unfamiliar with SE Asia, so are using their services. These travelers come from a variety of countries, some of which have traditions of tipping and some do not. These SE Asia countries do not have traditions of tipping. But a company like exotissimo has a stake in getting you to tip their guides very generously, perhaps so they don't need to pay them so much.

Mid and higher end hotels all add a 10% service charge to your bill automatically.
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Old Mar 12th, 2010, 04:06 PM
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Thanks to everyone for your local knowledge. If you have a guide for a day (Like Tong, Ponheary, or Putu) what do you usually give as a tip? I'm booking them and would really like to know an appropriate amount, given that they're all great.
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Old Mar 13th, 2010, 12:15 AM
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Already told you - 50,000 Kip a day is a nice tip for them.
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Old Mar 13th, 2010, 06:46 AM
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Vientianeboy,
50,000 kip translates to about $6....that doesn't sound like enough.

Also, I thought perhaps the recommended amount might differ by country....what's acceptable in Laos might not be the same for Thailand or Bali.
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Old Mar 13th, 2010, 08:18 AM
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barefoot, you are quite right that the economies of these countries are different from each other.

I'm not one to use guides, so I can't tell you what I've done, but many people consider the cost of a day and add a percentage. There are others who negotiate a "full cost" with a driver/guide and don't expect to add more. A lot of this is up to your discretion.
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Old Mar 13th, 2010, 06:59 PM
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Thanks Kathie. I'm sure we'll figure this out. There's also a big variation in what country the tourist comes from. As Americans, we were given tipping guidelines for African safaris that were 3-4 times what British tourists were told to tip by their tour operators.
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Old Mar 13th, 2010, 07:44 PM
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Yes, it sounds like you understand the situation, barefoot.
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Old Mar 13th, 2010, 09:49 PM
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Bfb, US citizens are regarded as huge tippers, (overtippers?). Believe me, the guides in Laos will be delighted with 50,000 kip. That is more than they earn in a day, so you are in effect tipping them a day's wages.
Bali is different, of course.
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My wife, (Lao), who tips more than me said $10.00 as an absolute max for all day.
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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 06:28 AM
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Thanks again, Kathie and Vientianeboy. $10 sounds like a good amount to me.
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There's no straight answer for tipping. There are factors such as the quality of the guide and perhaps their specialty, such as an adventure guide who would earn a higher rate. Nationality does affect what is expected, Americans for example are known for high tipping. However, service is key - guide experiences vary dramtically. As rhkkmk states, you tip for good service - and this amount may different for everyone from budget to high-end traveler, although $10/day is a good benchmark.

As for Exo and tour companies promoting tipping, it is an necessity to attract and keep the best guides - tips can add up to more than salary, and in turn generates better service. Ever eaten in places where tips are not customary?
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Old Apr 7th, 2010, 07:21 AM
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"Ever eaten in places where tips are not customary?" - let's see - New Zealand, Australia, China, Japan... service was fine.
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Old Apr 7th, 2010, 12:44 PM
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We'll never resolve this. lol lol lol. To an Australian, this whole tipping conversation is an idiocy and the whole idea of being TOLD what to tip is a particular insult.
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Old Apr 7th, 2010, 01:19 PM
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Seems not - what really puzzles me is these people who WANT to tip in non-tipping countries! (Even insist on it.)
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VeloAsia is a travel agent or travel company that has been posting here since 2004 so I guess the T-Agents want people to tips for their guides to substitute their low pay?
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