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Old Sep 15th, 2010 | 04:23 AM
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Absolutely! As another budget traveller I would have done the same. Presume you can check in early afternoon and catch up. I have to say I wouldn't have passed on the business class wine choices though.
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Old Sep 15th, 2010 | 04:29 AM
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The Frick!!! What a wonderful respite from the city. Thanks for reminding me; I'll have to go back soon.
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Old Sep 15th, 2010 | 04:30 AM
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Hi gertie - I already had wine in the lounge - a rather nice Shiraz - and I drank port with the cheese. I wanted to get sleepy, not drunk, lol. Things are livening up around here, think I'll eat breakfast and then head into town.
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Old Sep 15th, 2010 | 06:02 AM
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Something to look forward to in Korea:



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Old Sep 15th, 2010 | 06:54 AM
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I love traveling along with you! Enjoy Vancouver, it's a wonderful city.
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Old Sep 15th, 2010 | 07:34 AM
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thursdaysd, CX's wine offering in business and first are excellent. Remember this on you future CX flights if you are fond of wine.

I am surprised to read you like their business class seats, I find them extremely uncomfortable. Another complaint is that because of how the seats are positioned passengers can't look out the window. Pity, because CX's service and FAs are usually very good. I've started to avoid CX long hauls now because of their seats.

Have fun in YVR.
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Old Sep 15th, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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Looks like a great start already, have a fantastic time. How long is the trip?
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Old Sep 16th, 2010 | 07:37 AM
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eks - great find, but I think I'll pass, lol. kathie - thanks.

jsm - I noticed the window problem on CX as well, but since it was a night flight I wasn't too worried. I also initially thought the seat uncomfortable, but since I actually slept, had to give it higher marks. I was on this exact flight, although from YVR to HK, nine years ago, and these seats are certainly better. The service was excellent - aware without being unnecessarily obtrusive.

Shanghainese - just over six months - the planning thread is linked at the top of this one.

I'm staying at the YWCA (semi-private room, senior rate) - http://www.ywcavan.org/content/YWCA_Hotel/808/26/0 - comfy enough, but $6/day for wireless - I had to come out and find a Starbucks. Weather isn't great but I visited Granville Island (touristy) and the Museum of Anthropology (long trek, needed longer there) yesterday and am thinking Stsnley Park and the Aquarium today before the rain really sets in.
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Old Sep 16th, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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The Museum of Antropology is a real gem. I'm glad you got there. I love going into the "back rooms" and being able to examine artifacts in the display drawers.
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Old Sep 16th, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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thursdays -- Granville Island is touristy, but the Indian Candy that you can get there is to die for. 'Indian Candy" is smoked and dried salmon, and it's beyond delicious.
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Old Sep 16th, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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The nuts weren't warm? That's just not right!

Happy to see you're on another adventure - I love reading your reports.
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Old Sep 16th, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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Vancouver is one of our favorite cities, but haven't been there for a long, long time. Enjoy! And prowl around Stanley Park and English Bay for me! There's a pretty okay restaurant called Rain City right near English Bay.
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Old Sep 17th, 2010 | 06:32 AM
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Loved Stanley Park! Also had a very good guide at the Sun Yat Sen garden. So far the aquarium and the "sails" lose to Sydney, but Stanley Park and the setting are winners. The Olympic torch looks a bit sad in daylight, unlit.
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Old Sep 17th, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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If you have another day and the weather is nice you might want to go to North Vancouver to hike. The scenery is spectacular and the hiking around and over the FREE suspension bridge is fabulous. We went by car, but you can do it by public transportation (water taxi and bus).
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Old Sep 18th, 2010 | 07:28 AM
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Spent a good chunk of yesterday hiking in Lynn Canyon - overdid it and am now limping!!! Hope this won't turn into a repeat of 2006's Sore Foot Tour. Am planning very slow day today (plus it's raining) - leave for Tokyo Sunday.
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Old Sep 20th, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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<b>19-20 Sep 2010 - Back to Asia</b>

When I was growing up in the southern UK, and later, living in the southern US, Asia was the fabled, the exotic, east (never mind that I was now flying west to get there). On the one hand, the land of silks, spices and tea ceremonies, and on the other, the land of swords and samurai and sadistic POW camps. When I finally visited for the first time, in 1997, what I found, of course, was some that was cliched and much that was not, along with sights, sounds, smells and tastes that endlessly fascinated. If someone had told me, when I boarded my flight from Jakarta to Sydney in the spring of 2005, that it would be a full five and a half years before I returned, I would have found it hard to believe them.

But fate, in the form of two broken bones, intervened. When I was asked whether I was excited about my 2010 RTW, I gave my standard answer: "not until I board the plane", but a truer answer would have been: "not until I board the plane for Asia". Not that I didn't enjoy myself in New York and Vancouver, but they were very much the amuse bouche - not even the hors d'ouevres. So perhaps one reason I failed to sleep on the Japan Airlines flight to Tokyo was due to excitement. Perhaps.

The woman sitting next to me would change planes in Tokyo for Hong Kong, and when I mentioned that Cathay Pacific had a direct flight she told me that it was much too expensive. Since I was "paying" with FF miles I hadn't checked the prices, but comparing CX and JL business classes I could well believe that CX was more expensive. Not that the service on JL was bad, but it lacked a certain "edge". I couldn't directly compare the food, as I had only eaten salad and cheese on the CX flight, but I didn't like having the appetizers (cold) and main course (hot) arrive together. I did give JL points for serving Cointreau with my coffee - my splurge dessert on the road is Cointreau and cappucino, although I seldom drink it at home - but CX had had a drinkable port.

The real downers were the lounge at Vancouver and the seats on the plane. The lounge didn't just lack the shower I had loved in New York (which I didn't need in Vancouver), but rest rooms. I was limping, and it was quite a long limp from the lounge to the public rest rooms. Then there were noodles and chips, but not much else, to eat, and the wine came in a box. And the seats? Not all the way flat. I don't know why, but those extra few degrees of recline make all the difference, at least to me. Something inside is on the alert for a fall, and I just can't relax. My verdict on JL's business class is that it's Economy Plus rather than First Class Minus, and not all that Plus.

I wrote the preceding paragraphs while not sleeping on the plane, followed by more not-sleeping and a ridiculous excuse for breakfast (plain pasta with a few canned mushroom pieces and some tomato dice, with fruit and ice cream???). Then we landed in a driving rainstorm. Not JL's fault, but it was their fault that my pack was delivered thoroughly wet. I had a layer of plastic between the clothes and books and the might-spill toiletries, but of course, it was the clothes side of the bag that was wet!

Fortunately, I had put the books and papers in plastic bags, and it seemed that those clothes that were wet were just wet - no black stains, although I have a slight one on my grey jacket from the straps. While my room at the Toyoko Inn Shinagawa would have been plenty big enough if I hadn't needed to completely unpack, it really was on the small side (though still comfortable and well-equipped) with everything I was carrying strewn around. The Inn was conveniently located just down from the train station and a collection of restaurants. Briefly tempted to eat Italian, instead I picked a place with pictures of the food (and English translations) where I ate some very good pork slices fried in ginger, with cabbage, rice and miso soup.

I am now getting rather worried about my ankle. I vaguely remember turning it in Vancouver, but it didn't hurt at the time. Then I went trekking in Lynn Canyon, and it did start hurting. Now I can put weight on the foot, but not flex it. Some 'net time suggests a sprain, for which the recommended treatment is: rest! I've done what I should have done to start with and wrapped it,which has gotten the swelling down some, but I'm thinking I may call my medical insurance people from Kyoto - I don't want to do permanent damage. (I know Bob is going to tell me I should have no trouble limping along on the rest of the trip...)
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Old Sep 20th, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Sounds like some rest is in order, thursdaysd! Don't you hate when a pack/suitcase gets wet? I've learned to pack EVERYTHING in plastic, and am glad you had taken steps to keep your books and papers dry. Sending lots of good wishes that your ankle is OK.
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Old Sep 20th, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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Oh, so sorry your ankle is bothering you. I say take care of it now! Wrap, elevation, rest and anti-inflamatories...
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Old Sep 20th, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Thanks kja. (Rest, with a whole new country to explore....) Would you believe that in all the months (actually, literally, years now) of traveling I've done with this pack, this is the very first time it's really gotten wet? It has a built-in rain cover I use when it's with me and raining, but I couldn't use it for flights, and in any case it only covers the side that stayed dry!
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Old Sep 20th, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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I hope you get better quickly. You are in the land of onsen. Get that ankle to one and soak it....works wonders

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Aloha!
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