Phuket and Bangkok
Jan 31st, 2004, 11:56 AM
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Phuket and Bangkok
We're planning to spend about 5 days in Phuket and 2 days in Bangkok. Does anyone have feedback about Amanpuri or the Chedi and Phuket in general? How about great places to stay in Bangkok? This is a big anniversary, so we want it to be special. Thanks!
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Firstly time of year is very important, May to October Phuket has very heavy rainfall, bear that in mind.
The Chedi and Amanpuri both have fine reputations. Tjough personaly the price for the Amanpuri ( don't shout at me...I find hard to justify).
It depends very much how you plan to spend your time (this applies anywhere in the world ). If you intend to spend your days at the hotel pool or beach, lunch there, have dinner there, then it's worth paying for a top place, on the other hand, if after breakfast you are doing a day trip to Phang Nga and James Bond Islnd, next day a trip to Phi Phi Island, maybe a day arounf the island, perhaps heading into Patong for dinner, maybe seeing a show, then you are paying a hgih price for a comfy bed. As I say, this applies anywhere in the world.
Ok, have a think about that.
For Bangkok many of us award the Marriott resort in Bangkok as a great place, atmosphere, very good value.
Flights to/from Phuket take 1 hour, over 20 flights per day, 4 carriers, but I would stick with Thai on the route as they have most flights (all wide-body planes).
For Phuket information check the online edition of the local English language paper, lots of information ( if it does not come up 1st try click refresh ) and you can decide if Phuket is for you.
Have some thoughts and get back to us and we can all throw in our few cents.
Time of year though is the first thing as you may need to change plans for the Gulf side if your plan is May-oct.
http://www.phuketgazette.net
The Chedi and Amanpuri both have fine reputations. Tjough personaly the price for the Amanpuri ( don't shout at me...I find hard to justify).
It depends very much how you plan to spend your time (this applies anywhere in the world ). If you intend to spend your days at the hotel pool or beach, lunch there, have dinner there, then it's worth paying for a top place, on the other hand, if after breakfast you are doing a day trip to Phang Nga and James Bond Islnd, next day a trip to Phi Phi Island, maybe a day arounf the island, perhaps heading into Patong for dinner, maybe seeing a show, then you are paying a hgih price for a comfy bed. As I say, this applies anywhere in the world.
Ok, have a think about that.
For Bangkok many of us award the Marriott resort in Bangkok as a great place, atmosphere, very good value.
Flights to/from Phuket take 1 hour, over 20 flights per day, 4 carriers, but I would stick with Thai on the route as they have most flights (all wide-body planes).
For Phuket information check the online edition of the local English language paper, lots of information ( if it does not come up 1st try click refresh ) and you can decide if Phuket is for you.
Have some thoughts and get back to us and we can all throw in our few cents.
Time of year though is the first thing as you may need to change plans for the Gulf side if your plan is May-oct.
http://www.phuketgazette.net
Jan 31st, 2004, 07:40 PM
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Congratulations! Is this your first time to Thailand?
I stayed at the Chedi two years ago in March. We really enjoyed the private beach (shared with the Amanpuri,)the lovely beach restaurant, the proximity to the Aman resort for drinks or dinner(with in walking distance,) the spa services (though expensive.) I caution you on a few points. Do not settle for the hillside rooms,there are too many steps! I promise you'll be disappointed. Pay for the rooms on the beach if available and in your budget. Keep in mind that there are no bathtubs in the rooms if you are a soaker. The resort is a tiny bit tired (but then most are as SE Asia has been so hurt the past number of years...) And the pool is nice but not special. All that said, we would return. It is a quiet, lovely, out of the place.
For Bangkok this year, I will be staying at the Peninsula. I have stayed at the Shangrila and the Regent (now the Four Seasons.) You won't go wrong with any of these.
This forum should be very helpful to you. Do a search and you'll be surprised with all the advice.
Have a great time!
I stayed at the Chedi two years ago in March. We really enjoyed the private beach (shared with the Amanpuri,)the lovely beach restaurant, the proximity to the Aman resort for drinks or dinner(with in walking distance,) the spa services (though expensive.) I caution you on a few points. Do not settle for the hillside rooms,there are too many steps! I promise you'll be disappointed. Pay for the rooms on the beach if available and in your budget. Keep in mind that there are no bathtubs in the rooms if you are a soaker. The resort is a tiny bit tired (but then most are as SE Asia has been so hurt the past number of years...) And the pool is nice but not special. All that said, we would return. It is a quiet, lovely, out of the place.
For Bangkok this year, I will be staying at the Peninsula. I have stayed at the Shangrila and the Regent (now the Four Seasons.) You won't go wrong with any of these.
This forum should be very helpful to you. Do a search and you'll be surprised with all the advice.
Have a great time!
Jan 31st, 2004, 09:17 PM
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Thanks to everyone for the responses. This is a great forum and have been looking through all the messages. For this particular vacation, we don't plan to do a whole lot of touring. Mostly staying put, reading, maybe puttering around town a bit Not a first trip to Thailand for either of us, but don't know if visiting as a 20-year old Marine many years ago actually counts. We are slightly allergic to the Sheratons and Marriotts of the world, tend towards the smaller boutique type places. If you've been to Bali, we loved Pita Maha in Ubud and are looking for a somewhat similar experience - large, well-appointed rooms, lots of good friendly service, quiet. That is why we were considering Amanpuri. Is it or anything else somewhat comparable?
Also, is there any good snorkeling around?
Re. Bangkok - Andrew Harper raves about the Oriental - more so than the Peninsula? Has anyone stayed there after the renovation?
Thanks again, for the comments!
Also, is there any good snorkeling around?
Re. Bangkok - Andrew Harper raves about the Oriental - more so than the Peninsula? Has anyone stayed there after the renovation?
Thanks again, for the comments!
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From what you have said I would take a serious look at Mon tri's Boathouse at kata beach, it is not quite a boutique hotel but it certainly isn't a large impersonal one, it has top clientele yet the rates are reasonable, I think it is what you could call a 'gem'. It has a great location, choice of room types, and is close enough to other restaurants and some shopping etc if you wish, anyway take a look and you can cross/compare with the cedi etc.
http://www.r24.org/huahin.20m.com/ph...house/details/
The Boathouse is a nice place ( I lived 3 yrs in Phuket )
http://www.r24.org/huahin.20m.com/ph...house/details/
The Boathouse is a nice place ( I lived 3 yrs in Phuket )
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Me again. JamesA has always been very helpful and I hate to disagree but I went to the Boathouse on Kata beach two years ago when I was in Phuket to take a look. I had heard so much about it. I even went as far as asking the desk to show me a room. I have to say, I would be terribly unhappy there. I was shown a room on the street side. Very small, dark and worn. If you are considering the Amanpuri, there is no comparison!! Maybe you would enjoy going to dinner at the Boathouse one night but........
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Have you considered Krabi instead of Phuket? We were in Krabi last year and stayed at Rayavadee and it was awesome. The scenery could not be beat. If you want to go to PHi Phi Islands it is closer from Krabi than Phuket. We also stayed in Phuket (at Banyan Tree-pool villa) and both really enjoyed Krabi much better. Although Banyan Tree was also incredible(we barely left our room during the day), the scenery,beaches,etc were much better in Krabi.
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Have just returned (5th Feb) from Phuket, Krabi and Bangkok. We stayed at the Meridien Yacht Club (MYC) in Phuket, Rayavadee in Krabi and the Shangri La in Bangkok. Thai air run B777?s from Bangkok to Phuket (upgrade to business class cost me 15 uk pounds each way! - do it). Run hourly most of the day.
Our personal experience is that the "Land of smiles" is still very much just that. Had a great time, so many friendly people, just cannot do enough for you. Just smile, you can't go wrong.
MYC was very good, very friendly staff with good service. Manager knew us by name the day after we arrived. Had a Dlx sea facing room with Kingsize bed. Good size room with tv, cd player, fridge(bar), good storage, walk in shower (deep, 2 steps so could be used as bath too). The room had a massive private balcony with it's own 3 piece lounge suite, dining table with 2 chairs and 2 lounge beds with table and umbrella... you want privacy - you got it. (all this on the balcony with plenty of space too).
Food excellent, high quality buffets each night at 1200 baht in the Quarterdeck restaurant (wine a bit expensive - even the Shiraz and that didn't have to travel far), but reasonable house wine by the glass available too. Also has 2 other restaurants to choose from (Regatta-Italian and Promenade-Seafood). Italian is recommended in where to eat in Phuket guide.
Spa very good with all the usual treatments, so easy to indulge yourself, and reasonably priced. A small pool by comparison to many we have stayed at, but not busy (probably due to the huge balconies), with good views over the bay. We were there for Chinese New Year (21st Jan) and the buffet and entertainment was just stunning.
Set on Nai-Harn beach (way down South, below Kata so took a while to get there - 50 mins from airport, but had private air-cond car pick us up, well worth the 280 baht). Clean white soft sand beach (walk in almost anywhere, no ugly hidden rocks to hit toes on!), hotel beds & umbrellas available and large roped off area for swimming. A few long tail boats (3 per day doing trips), so very nice bay and quiet compared to Krabi.
Had dinner at Mom Tri's Boathouse, highly recommended, again excellent food and wine cellar but very expensive.
Four small bar/restaurants close to entrance of hotel, so if you want a cheaper drink (Singha Yai-large beer), only 100 baht at Shady restaurant. We had 10 nights at the MYC then onto Krabi. Did a deal with the MYC car pool manager to take us in one of the hotel Mercs to Krabi (it's a 2 and a half hour drive).
Rayavadee is on a peninsular only reachable by boat. We were met at a small beach where we boarded the speed boat (all luggage handled by them-didn't touch it from the point it was picked up from our room in MYC), and it was heavy too!
Well, the wife doesn't like boats. but is was an easy 15 min trip in their speedboat. Depending on the tide, the speedboat may be met by a trailer to take you in the last part... (tide goes out a long way).
Rayavadee is quite stunning, A la James Bond type cliffs all around you and set in 'lush' gardens (take plenty of insect repellent for early morning and late afternoon/evening walks etc.). Has access to 3 beaches (remember they are all 'public' beaches though and have a lot of long tail boat traffic which make them noisy and busy!! (probably its only real critisism).
This is another high class hotel, once again service impeccable, food excellent 3 restaurants to choose from (Thai-excellent with outdoor, indoor or air-cond dining). International- restaurant with small, but very good menu (Lamb chops were excellent...). and a small restaurant down by the pool bar on Railey beach (again, very busy beach), but nice bar and 'snacks' menu, Satay, Kebabs, Burgers etc., but if that's all you want for dinner it makes a nice change.
Not much in the way of evening entertainment, but the lounge is nice for a few after dinner drinks and to feed to mosquitoes (if your not careful). Dlx Pavillions in the grounds are very nicely furnished, with a down stairs sitting room and cloakroom, bedroom upstairs (both with tv's). Large bathroom/toilet with walk in shower and big round bath. Lots of hanging space. a few shelves, but no drawer storage for shirts etc.
Amazing Spa, big ?wow? factor with stunning entrance. A bit expensive comapred to MYC, but still indulged?Large pool area (which is where we spent most of our time), well maintained with ?pool staff? for laying out your bed and providing cold bottled water or iced teas (foc), or Singha Yai all day. Stayed 7 nights, and took the speedboat back to the Krabi town pier where we were met by Rayavadee staff who took us to Krabi airport for return to Bangkok. Once again, they handled all the luggage and even took the tickets and got us our boarding passes. Didn?t touch the luggage until we picked it up in Bangkok.
This is an amazing hotel, with outstanding service but ?very? expensive and I think the beaches are spoilt by all the noisy long tail boats.
We were picked up at Bangkok (Terminal 1 - domestic terminal) and taken to Shangri La hotel. Big hotel on the river. This is probably a good location if your staying for a few days in Bangkok, nice river view and next to a station, so easy to get into town centre. We were only staying the 1 night and then flying back to the UK, so I think a more central hotel would have been better for us. The manager at the MYC recommended a restaurant on the 61st floor of the Banyan tree hotel. It?s called ?Vertigo?, it?s open air ON TOP of the hotel?. Which brings us back to what JamesA said originally about ?What time of year do you plan to visit?. Hope this helps??. Juan.
Our personal experience is that the "Land of smiles" is still very much just that. Had a great time, so many friendly people, just cannot do enough for you. Just smile, you can't go wrong.
MYC was very good, very friendly staff with good service. Manager knew us by name the day after we arrived. Had a Dlx sea facing room with Kingsize bed. Good size room with tv, cd player, fridge(bar), good storage, walk in shower (deep, 2 steps so could be used as bath too). The room had a massive private balcony with it's own 3 piece lounge suite, dining table with 2 chairs and 2 lounge beds with table and umbrella... you want privacy - you got it. (all this on the balcony with plenty of space too).
Food excellent, high quality buffets each night at 1200 baht in the Quarterdeck restaurant (wine a bit expensive - even the Shiraz and that didn't have to travel far), but reasonable house wine by the glass available too. Also has 2 other restaurants to choose from (Regatta-Italian and Promenade-Seafood). Italian is recommended in where to eat in Phuket guide.
Spa very good with all the usual treatments, so easy to indulge yourself, and reasonably priced. A small pool by comparison to many we have stayed at, but not busy (probably due to the huge balconies), with good views over the bay. We were there for Chinese New Year (21st Jan) and the buffet and entertainment was just stunning.
Set on Nai-Harn beach (way down South, below Kata so took a while to get there - 50 mins from airport, but had private air-cond car pick us up, well worth the 280 baht). Clean white soft sand beach (walk in almost anywhere, no ugly hidden rocks to hit toes on!), hotel beds & umbrellas available and large roped off area for swimming. A few long tail boats (3 per day doing trips), so very nice bay and quiet compared to Krabi.
Had dinner at Mom Tri's Boathouse, highly recommended, again excellent food and wine cellar but very expensive.
Four small bar/restaurants close to entrance of hotel, so if you want a cheaper drink (Singha Yai-large beer), only 100 baht at Shady restaurant. We had 10 nights at the MYC then onto Krabi. Did a deal with the MYC car pool manager to take us in one of the hotel Mercs to Krabi (it's a 2 and a half hour drive).
Rayavadee is on a peninsular only reachable by boat. We were met at a small beach where we boarded the speed boat (all luggage handled by them-didn't touch it from the point it was picked up from our room in MYC), and it was heavy too!
Well, the wife doesn't like boats. but is was an easy 15 min trip in their speedboat. Depending on the tide, the speedboat may be met by a trailer to take you in the last part... (tide goes out a long way).
Rayavadee is quite stunning, A la James Bond type cliffs all around you and set in 'lush' gardens (take plenty of insect repellent for early morning and late afternoon/evening walks etc.). Has access to 3 beaches (remember they are all 'public' beaches though and have a lot of long tail boat traffic which make them noisy and busy!! (probably its only real critisism).
This is another high class hotel, once again service impeccable, food excellent 3 restaurants to choose from (Thai-excellent with outdoor, indoor or air-cond dining). International- restaurant with small, but very good menu (Lamb chops were excellent...). and a small restaurant down by the pool bar on Railey beach (again, very busy beach), but nice bar and 'snacks' menu, Satay, Kebabs, Burgers etc., but if that's all you want for dinner it makes a nice change.
Not much in the way of evening entertainment, but the lounge is nice for a few after dinner drinks and to feed to mosquitoes (if your not careful). Dlx Pavillions in the grounds are very nicely furnished, with a down stairs sitting room and cloakroom, bedroom upstairs (both with tv's). Large bathroom/toilet with walk in shower and big round bath. Lots of hanging space. a few shelves, but no drawer storage for shirts etc.
Amazing Spa, big ?wow? factor with stunning entrance. A bit expensive comapred to MYC, but still indulged?Large pool area (which is where we spent most of our time), well maintained with ?pool staff? for laying out your bed and providing cold bottled water or iced teas (foc), or Singha Yai all day. Stayed 7 nights, and took the speedboat back to the Krabi town pier where we were met by Rayavadee staff who took us to Krabi airport for return to Bangkok. Once again, they handled all the luggage and even took the tickets and got us our boarding passes. Didn?t touch the luggage until we picked it up in Bangkok.
This is an amazing hotel, with outstanding service but ?very? expensive and I think the beaches are spoilt by all the noisy long tail boats.
We were picked up at Bangkok (Terminal 1 - domestic terminal) and taken to Shangri La hotel. Big hotel on the river. This is probably a good location if your staying for a few days in Bangkok, nice river view and next to a station, so easy to get into town centre. We were only staying the 1 night and then flying back to the UK, so I think a more central hotel would have been better for us. The manager at the MYC recommended a restaurant on the 61st floor of the Banyan tree hotel. It?s called ?Vertigo?, it?s open air ON TOP of the hotel?. Which brings us back to what JamesA said originally about ?What time of year do you plan to visit?. Hope this helps??. Juan.
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Hi Juan,
I"m leaving for Thailand in a few days and will also be at Rayavadee. Did you have to book the spa appts in advance or when you got there(a day or two notice?)?
Did you take any day trips or stay at the resort? How was the snorkeling off the hotel's beaches?
We had also heard about the noise from longtail boats, etc, can you hear this from the hotel grounds? Is there any specific room or area you'd recommend?
I'm allergic to mosquito bites and it sounds like there are plenty there. Do they treat the rooms--or are there mosquito nets, plug-in zappers? I've got deet which I"ll bring but I"m wondering if I'll need it during the day--by the pool or on the beach?
Lastly, how much are meals there?
Thanks-your trip sounded fabulous!
I"m leaving for Thailand in a few days and will also be at Rayavadee. Did you have to book the spa appts in advance or when you got there(a day or two notice?)?
Did you take any day trips or stay at the resort? How was the snorkeling off the hotel's beaches?
We had also heard about the noise from longtail boats, etc, can you hear this from the hotel grounds? Is there any specific room or area you'd recommend?
I'm allergic to mosquito bites and it sounds like there are plenty there. Do they treat the rooms--or are there mosquito nets, plug-in zappers? I've got deet which I"ll bring but I"m wondering if I'll need it during the day--by the pool or on the beach?
Lastly, how much are meals there?
Thanks-your trip sounded fabulous!
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Hi Mae, We had a great time thanks and I am sure you will too. The service is outstanding. If your flexible on appt time in the Spa you can book on the day, but suggest booking the day before. The Spa is fantastic, bit expensive 2500 baht for the 1 hr massages (but what the hell, your on holiday right). Oh by the way, they price everything as ?++? (meaning +10% service and +7% tax).
The hotel activities people can provide boats/trips or you can take one of the dreaded long tail boats (LTB) to local islands for snorkeling. There is also a hidden Scuba facility a few yards along Railay beach with a specialized dive boat (takes about 30 divers). It is so well hidden, I did not find it until almost my last day. I actually found the 3 beaches a bit disappointing due to the LTBs. They were just very busy and noisy compared to Nai Harn in Phuket. My wife does not like boats so we did not do any trips, just R & R was on the agenda.
We spent most of our time at the really nice pool. You can hear the LTBs coming and going here. I could not hear them in the pavilions though. We were in a room not far from the pool (3/22), which also means a long walk to the Thai restaurant or International restaurant. But you can call reception and get them to pick you up in one of their electric carts (they really don?t mind at all) and drop you off anywhere on the property. They also move faster than the mosquitoes?.. so no long dark paths through the property to negotiate (or get lost in).
They have ?plug in zappers? in the rooms, we had no problem in the rooms, if you have the air-cond on it also keeps the mozzies out? You don?t normally get bitten during the day. I was only bitten a few times of an evening when walking to dine, or sitting at the pool bar. But saw people with many bites on arms and legs that had not been prepared. Sitting in the pool bar of an evening (happy hour 5pm-7pm), or walking about early morning, or late afternoon/evening is the worst period. We have something in the UK called ?Jungle Formula?, it is a spray and they also come in wipes, very handy for popping in the pocket to refresh the arms/legs.
We managed to get a half board arrangement, so our Breakfast and Dinner was included. American breakfast about 600++ (including hot). The Thai meals (about 750 baht per starter/main/dessert) without wine. International restaurant probably getting on for double that. (oh, do not forget the ?++?).
In terms of location, I personally think over near the pool was good, less ?lush? garden on your doorstep (3/19, 3/21, 3/22, 3/23, 3/28) were behind a grass area just behind the pool. You?re a long way from reception and restaurants but can always call the buggie?.
I am sure you will enjoy yourselves. Juan
The hotel activities people can provide boats/trips or you can take one of the dreaded long tail boats (LTB) to local islands for snorkeling. There is also a hidden Scuba facility a few yards along Railay beach with a specialized dive boat (takes about 30 divers). It is so well hidden, I did not find it until almost my last day. I actually found the 3 beaches a bit disappointing due to the LTBs. They were just very busy and noisy compared to Nai Harn in Phuket. My wife does not like boats so we did not do any trips, just R & R was on the agenda.
We spent most of our time at the really nice pool. You can hear the LTBs coming and going here. I could not hear them in the pavilions though. We were in a room not far from the pool (3/22), which also means a long walk to the Thai restaurant or International restaurant. But you can call reception and get them to pick you up in one of their electric carts (they really don?t mind at all) and drop you off anywhere on the property. They also move faster than the mosquitoes?.. so no long dark paths through the property to negotiate (or get lost in).
They have ?plug in zappers? in the rooms, we had no problem in the rooms, if you have the air-cond on it also keeps the mozzies out? You don?t normally get bitten during the day. I was only bitten a few times of an evening when walking to dine, or sitting at the pool bar. But saw people with many bites on arms and legs that had not been prepared. Sitting in the pool bar of an evening (happy hour 5pm-7pm), or walking about early morning, or late afternoon/evening is the worst period. We have something in the UK called ?Jungle Formula?, it is a spray and they also come in wipes, very handy for popping in the pocket to refresh the arms/legs.
We managed to get a half board arrangement, so our Breakfast and Dinner was included. American breakfast about 600++ (including hot). The Thai meals (about 750 baht per starter/main/dessert) without wine. International restaurant probably getting on for double that. (oh, do not forget the ?++?).
In terms of location, I personally think over near the pool was good, less ?lush? garden on your doorstep (3/19, 3/21, 3/22, 3/23, 3/28) were behind a grass area just behind the pool. You?re a long way from reception and restaurants but can always call the buggie?.
I am sure you will enjoy yourselves. Juan
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Have to agree with all posts re not staying at The Oriental. Would def suggest u have e meal there and check out The Authors Lounge and imbibe the atmosphere. But think the Pen is much better - and better VFM too! A non river side option is the Sukhothai - amazing minimalist architecture. Even if u do not stay there, again do go for a meal. If u like clubs u must have a meal at Bed Supperclub. Very diff. Do book in advance as Fris and Sats are very busy.
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again i chime in for the penn in bkk...great to just laze around, in room or by pool...much quieter than the oriental in every way---people traffic especially....
one botique come to my mind which you might check out....the new davis hotel...its on the web...
the evergreen to on silom or sathorn is interesting and the sukathai (spelled incorrectly) on s. sathorn, while large is interesting to vedge
one botique come to my mind which you might check out....the new davis hotel...its on the web...
the evergreen to on silom or sathorn is interesting and the sukathai (spelled incorrectly) on s. sathorn, while large is interesting to vedge
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I would NOT choose the Oriental. We stayed there in December and were not at all impressed. It's a lot more expensive than the Peninsula and 2. it's water shuttles don't come as frequently 3. it was used for a wedding so half of the hotel grounds including the famous author's wing was not open to hotel guests 4. we had to wait an hour for our room to be ready when we checked in at 1pm. 5. we found the concierges to be hurried and understaffed. 6. it was so crowded that they had pool loungers laid out on the grass behind the bushes behind the pool because there was absolutely no space around the pool area. 7. really rude hostess at their bamboo bar who took over 1 hour to seat us.
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Message: Juanm - Can you please tell us where you booked a car for 280 BHT to go from the airport to MYC in Phuket. If you were to go back to Phuket would MYC be your first choice. We are planning to stay only a few days at MYC in December and as it is so expensive due to the high season we would like to know if we have made the right choice. We also tried to book the Baan Yin Dee Resort but I think they would not accept our booking as we were not staying long enough.
