1.5 Months Japan Itinerary
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To the OP - I have looked at your other post, and I agree with Crellston. We are all volunteers here, and we are not inclined to design an itinerary for you. I will, however give my insight into Japan costs in the hopes that it will help others who stumble across this thread.
I agree with all the posters upstream that Japan is among the most expensive countries in Asia. I found that small aspects of Japan travel add up. For example, the tiniest of houses and museums all charge at least $5 to get in. For example, when we in Takayama, where there are a series of historic houses to visit there, it could really add up by the end of the day. Also, posters upstream have mentioned buying food at grocery stores. However, a small tray of sushi costs about $8, and it is enough for little me. However, a normal size guy would want two trays for a meal. Lastly, even if you don't get a rail pass, the trains and buses are super expensive. For example, I paid $225 for a train ticket from Nagasaki to Tottori. And I spent about $15 for a bus ride around the outskirts of Kumamoto. As you can see, all this ends up. I have not even mentioned hotels. The single rooms that thursdays mentioned are typically the size of a postage stamp, and are rarely less than $70 per night.
The only suggestion I can make for saving money would be to look into the myriad of passes available in Japan. Many cities offer day passes for museums and/or buses. For example, I got a one day bus pass in Nagasaki which proved helpful, since the sights there are all spread out. I also got a one day "Fun Pass" in Kumamoto which included the buses and ferries.
thursdays and crellston - I am glad you are both well. We are well here in So Cal as well. I see lots of people walking in my neighborhood, and lots of sidewalk chalk street art by children.
I agree with all the posters upstream that Japan is among the most expensive countries in Asia. I found that small aspects of Japan travel add up. For example, the tiniest of houses and museums all charge at least $5 to get in. For example, when we in Takayama, where there are a series of historic houses to visit there, it could really add up by the end of the day. Also, posters upstream have mentioned buying food at grocery stores. However, a small tray of sushi costs about $8, and it is enough for little me. However, a normal size guy would want two trays for a meal. Lastly, even if you don't get a rail pass, the trains and buses are super expensive. For example, I paid $225 for a train ticket from Nagasaki to Tottori. And I spent about $15 for a bus ride around the outskirts of Kumamoto. As you can see, all this ends up. I have not even mentioned hotels. The single rooms that thursdays mentioned are typically the size of a postage stamp, and are rarely less than $70 per night.
The only suggestion I can make for saving money would be to look into the myriad of passes available in Japan. Many cities offer day passes for museums and/or buses. For example, I got a one day bus pass in Nagasaki which proved helpful, since the sights there are all spread out. I also got a one day "Fun Pass" in Kumamoto which included the buses and ferries.
thursdays and crellston - I am glad you are both well. We are well here in So Cal as well. I see lots of people walking in my neighborhood, and lots of sidewalk chalk street art by children.
#22
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Thursdaysd, "I hope your housing situation will be OK after June, wonder if somewhere like South Korea will be letting foreigners in then”
Thanks, I sure it will all work out ok- it usually does. I hadn’t really thought much about travel this year. South Korea would be great (if only for the food!!) but even if things are ok there then I doubt they will be welcoming foreigners with open arms. I am already detecting some “xenophobia” here which has mainifested itself in a great deal of resentment for those attempting to visit second homes in holiday area. Spoke with my son in Sydney today who seems to think that Australia will be closed to tourism for at least the remainder of this year. I think that will likely be our next trip, but who knows when.
Had to chuckle re you changing your hairdressers appt. Carolyn is adamant they should be classed as an essential industry
Good to hear you are well CaliforniaLady. Seems that the lockdown in the US is not so strictly enforced as it is here, which in turn is not as strict as it is in Italy and Spain. Who knows who has got it right? Our time outside is only for an hour a a day for exercise or shopping for essentials. on Thursday it will be extended for another 3 weeks at least. I only hope that the “cure” for this horrible virus doesn’t turn out to cause more damage to the world than the disease itself.
I am really glad we managed to visit Japan in January!
Thanks, I sure it will all work out ok- it usually does. I hadn’t really thought much about travel this year. South Korea would be great (if only for the food!!) but even if things are ok there then I doubt they will be welcoming foreigners with open arms. I am already detecting some “xenophobia” here which has mainifested itself in a great deal of resentment for those attempting to visit second homes in holiday area. Spoke with my son in Sydney today who seems to think that Australia will be closed to tourism for at least the remainder of this year. I think that will likely be our next trip, but who knows when.
Had to chuckle re you changing your hairdressers appt. Carolyn is adamant they should be classed as an essential industry

Good to hear you are well CaliforniaLady. Seems that the lockdown in the US is not so strictly enforced as it is here, which in turn is not as strict as it is in Italy and Spain. Who knows who has got it right? Our time outside is only for an hour a a day for exercise or shopping for essentials. on Thursday it will be extended for another 3 weeks at least. I only hope that the “cure” for this horrible virus doesn’t turn out to cause more damage to the world than the disease itself.
I am really glad we managed to visit Japan in January!
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Urban cities, countryside, history, museums, zoo, views, bodies of water
They can be found almost everywhere across Japan. These are the essential elements of Japanese tourism.
$66/7,000 per day.
A BestWestern hotel room in Kagoshima in Apr 2019 cost around $30 (early bird) per night. You still have $30/3,500. You can grab lunch in a restaurant at 1,000. If you settle with a fast food restaurant for another meal, you should still be able to get a city transport pass and pay for some attractions in the city. Or, if your hotel provides bike for rental, the transport cost would come down a bit.
Kyushu regional rail pass also comes off a lot cheaper. You can choose between the Northern Kyushu and Southern Kyushu versions, both of which covers Shinkansen in the respective region.
Another inter-city option is the high speed bus, which might be a bit more affordable.
Kagoshima may not sound as reputable as Tokyo, Osaka and Kyoto. It is home to the World Heritage Site of Meiji Industrialization, e.g. Sengan-en and Shuko Shuseikan Museum https://www.senganen.jp/en/experienc...orld-heritage/
You will find the Sakurajima volcano a throw away from the city centre- a backdrop of the Kagoshima Bay. An aquarium is not far away.
Do they tick your boxes?
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I calculate your budget at about US$ 70/day - and when you say "I", that means solo travel, right?. That is doable, if you are OK with the most absolute budget accommodations, food, and not traveling too far. Japan does not have to cost you your soul at all. There are some very inexpensive places to stay, mostly in Tokyo and Osaka, for even $30 a night - nothing fancy of course; quite spartan, but clean, quiet and comfortable enough. For food, a lot of it could be getting something at a supermarket or convenience store, a cheap noodle place, fast food or a department store basement bento. The next thing is transport. A full rail pass and roaming around the country is probably out of the picture. But you can fly to Kansai for even 7700 one way, or less still on a low cost carrier. Or take an overnight bus for just a few thousand yen. I doubt I'd sleep much at all that way, but it's up to you. Or even fly up to Aomori or Akita for 5500 one way, or even Hokkaido or Okinawa for around the same on Peach or Jet Star.
So doable? Yes. But ideal? Good Lord, no. But if you are OK with going 1-Star the whole way, then better that way than never going at all.
So doable? Yes. But ideal? Good Lord, no. But if you are OK with going 1-Star the whole way, then better that way than never going at all.
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To the OP - I have looked at your other post, and I agree with Crellston. We are all volunteers here, and we are not inclined to design an itinerary for you. I will, however give my insight into Japan costs in the hopes that it will help others who stumble across this thread.
I agree with all the posters upstream that Japan is among the most expensive countries in Asia. I found that small aspects of Japan travel add up. For example, the tiniest of houses and museums all charge at least $5 to get in. For example, when we in Takayama, where there are a series of historic houses to visit there, it could really add up by the end of the day. Also, posters upstream have mentioned buying food at grocery stores. However, a small tray of sushi costs about $8, and it is enough for little me. However, a normal size guy would want two trays for a meal. Lastly, even if you don't get a rail pass, the trains and buses are super expensive. For example, I paid $225 for a train ticket from Nagasaki to Tottori. And I spent about $15 for a bus ride around the outskirts of Kumamoto. As you can see, all this ends up. I have not even mentioned hotels. The single rooms that thursdays mentioned are typically the size of a postage stamp, and are rarely less than $70 per night.
The only suggestion I can make for saving money would be to look into the myriad of passes available in Japan. Many cities offer day passes for museums and/or buses. For example, I got a one day bus pass in Nagasaki which proved helpful, since the sights there are all spread out. I also got a one day "Fun Pass" in Kumamoto which included the buses and ferries.
thursdays and crellston - I am glad you are both well. We are well here in So Cal as well. I see lots of people walking in my neighborhood, and lots of sidewalk chalk street art by children.
I agree with all the posters upstream that Japan is among the most expensive countries in Asia. I found that small aspects of Japan travel add up. For example, the tiniest of houses and museums all charge at least $5 to get in. For example, when we in Takayama, where there are a series of historic houses to visit there, it could really add up by the end of the day. Also, posters upstream have mentioned buying food at grocery stores. However, a small tray of sushi costs about $8, and it is enough for little me. However, a normal size guy would want two trays for a meal. Lastly, even if you don't get a rail pass, the trains and buses are super expensive. For example, I paid $225 for a train ticket from Nagasaki to Tottori. And I spent about $15 for a bus ride around the outskirts of Kumamoto. As you can see, all this ends up. I have not even mentioned hotels. The single rooms that thursdays mentioned are typically the size of a postage stamp, and are rarely less than $70 per night.
The only suggestion I can make for saving money would be to look into the myriad of passes available in Japan. Many cities offer day passes for museums and/or buses. For example, I got a one day bus pass in Nagasaki which proved helpful, since the sights there are all spread out. I also got a one day "Fun Pass" in Kumamoto which included the buses and ferries.
thursdays and crellston - I am glad you are both well. We are well here in So Cal as well. I see lots of people walking in my neighborhood, and lots of sidewalk chalk street art by children.
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This all seems unlikely.
You've had six weeks to consider the advice and ideas that you were given;. You started with the highest planning level: your destination is Japan, you will spend some number of days, and have a budget of some amount. Six weeks later have you made any progress on your plan other than changing the length of stay?
You've had six weeks to consider the advice and ideas that you were given;. You started with the highest planning level: your destination is Japan, you will spend some number of days, and have a budget of some amount. Six weeks later have you made any progress on your plan other than changing the length of stay?
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This all seems unlikely.
You've had six weeks to consider the advice and ideas that you were given;. You started with the highest planning level: your destination is Japan, you will spend some number of days, and have a budget of some amount. Six weeks later have you made any progress on your plan other than changing the length of stay?
You've had six weeks to consider the advice and ideas that you were given;. You started with the highest planning level: your destination is Japan, you will spend some number of days, and have a budget of some amount. Six weeks later have you made any progress on your plan other than changing the length of stay?
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I visited those on my first Japan trip. I would add the Art Nouveau museum in Takayama as well worth seeing. I visited Shirakawa-go on the way from Kanazawa to Takayama.
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Awesome pictures! Thanks for these recs
To thursdaysd's list I would add Nikko as a day trip from Tokyo, Takayama for the town and its open air museum, and Matsumoto for its castle:
https://flic.kr/p/7pXfPa https://flic.kr/p/7q235j https://flic.kr/p/7q2Htf
https://flic.kr/p/7pXfPa https://flic.kr/p/7q235j https://flic.kr/p/7q2Htf
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I was in Japan for a conference a long time ago and then had a week to myself. I took the train from Tokyo to Kanazawa, stopping for a couple of nights in Takayama, and on the way back stopped in Matsumoto. Nikko was a day trip from Tokyo. Kyoto and Nara were part of a group tour in a previous year.
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Not sure why you are spending all that time in Osaka, easy enough to do a day trip from Kyoto. Also, that is a lot of time in Hiroshima (some people sleep in Miyajima instead of day tripping, but it may be expensive). I would consider Takayama and Matsumoto instead of Osaka, especially if you are going to Kanazawa. Matsue is another option on that side of Honshu.
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One thing you can do now is to look into lodging.
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Not sure why you are spending all that time in Osaka, easy enough to do a day trip from Kyoto. Also, that is a lot of time in Hiroshima (some people sleep in Miyajima instead of day tripping, but it may be expensive). I would consider Takayama and Matsumoto instead of Osaka, especially if you are going to Kanazawa. Matsue is another option on that side of Honshu.
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