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Old Aug 9th, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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USA visit/locks query?

Have been reading a lot of different posts to get the feel of this forum thing and have noticed people mentioning locking/not locking your suitcases on entering the USA. Whats all that about? Am visiting USA from europe in sept do I have to leave my case open for security to search it when its out of my sight? that sounds a recipe for problems.
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Old Aug 9th, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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I'd recommend a TSA approved lock which I was able to get in London for an extra suitcase I got while there so maybe they're available in other places. (Got mine in Harrod's) I had a connection after arriving in the US so I didn't want the bag unlocked for the rest of the trip.



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Old Aug 9th, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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The issue isn't about entering the USA, but about boarding a plane traveling to, from and within the US.

If you use a regular lock, it may be removed during security check at the originating airport, even before it gets on the plane.
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Old Aug 9th, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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And of course, they will have to use "some force" to remove that lock, and you don't know what else - zippers, handles - will be gone too...
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Old Aug 9th, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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I read that there are newer locks (TSA approved) that the airport security can open with a master key. They have one key that opens all of the locks, but the locks come with different keys that are specific to that lock.

Even with that, the odds that the lock would be re-locked after security does their check probably isn't that high, so you'd end up with an unlocked case anyway.

My rule of thumb is don't put anything in the checked luggage that you can't afford to have stolen, broken, etc. What I consider irreplaceable as I'm headed on my trip is usually different than what is irreplaceable on my return. I only use the suitcase locks while at the hotels, etc.
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Old Aug 9th, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Just a bit to add to this

About 5 years ago I landed at Heathrow and only realised that my key for my samsonite was on the keyring that I had left with my wife after she had dropped me at the airport.

I used some lateral thinking and went up to the customs guys and said what had happened and could they open my case for me. Of course they could as they have master keys for most major brands of locks and suitcases.

So to cut a story short, I believe authorities at airports do carry master keys to get onto cases, whether stamped TSA approved or not.
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Old Aug 9th, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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They may have the key(s), but I could tell you right now that there is no way in hell that TSA agent is going to try every key in their arsenal. If it's not approved and one key opens all the locks, your lock will get cut when and if they decide they need a closer look.....with thousands of pieces of luggage they don't try keys as the day goes on....


That said, the TSA approved locks are a waste of money. If you really feel more secure locking your luggage when traveling within or from US, get bunch of cable ties, and use that instead. TSA is pretty good about replacing a cable tie if and when they need to take a closer look.

OTOH, the one advice above is really the one that should be adhered to. Don't pack anything that you can't afford to loose in the checked in luggage. No locks necessary....

Have a great trip!
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Old Aug 9th, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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<i>TSA is pretty good about replacing a cable tie if and when they need to take a closer look.</i>

Yeah, except for the one they ripped (not cut) off my bag last month, breaking the zipper in the process.
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Old Aug 9th, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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I didn't say they were perfect.....

In fact it's one government agency that should disappear.
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Old Aug 10th, 2006 | 04:34 AM
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If there's a TSA lock on your bags, and a thieving baggage handler working in an airport has 10 bags to choose frum with 3 of them having TSA locks, which bags would you think he'd pick to go through &amp; steal from?

For a couple dollars, I think it's worth it.
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Old Aug 10th, 2006 | 04:46 AM
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Many thanks for all your imput/advice, am travelling from UK, and with this latest security scare not sure hand luggage will be allowed, had planned to travel light with a much smaller case, but the things we were going to put in hand luggage (i.e. our new camcorder/books things to make flight more comfortable) may now have to go into the hold luggage, or failing that we should maybe not take the camcorder, which is a shame as we hoped to film the finger lakes/ Niagara/Pennsylvania etc. Oh well, its better to be safe than sorry, so will follow the airport rules re problems because of these new terror threats.....glad they foiled the buggers this time!!!
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Old Aug 10th, 2006 | 04:48 AM
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I agree, but that's why I said that the cable ties are a good alternative if it makes you feel better.

Me? I just pack my clothes and toiletries in the checked luggage (and only when I have to check luggage) so I don't use locks/ties and so far nobody stole my dirty underwear.....
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Old Aug 10th, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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Ann, I would never put something like a camcorder in checked luggage. Disregarding theft, there are just way too many opportunities for it to break along the way. Bags fall off the luggage carts on the tarmac, handlers toss them around, security may use a stick or rod to adjust your belongings in your suitcase if the xray isn't clear, etc. And what is worse, not bringing it or bringing it only to find it's broken when you get there. If it can't fit in your carry-on, then I wouldn't risk taking it.
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Old Aug 10th, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Take a good look at your luggage and you will no doubt find that the zippers and latches are so flimsy that any thief could easily break in, no matter how strong a lock you use. My recommendation is that you find a way to secure the luggage against accidental opening if it is handled roughly. Cable ties, or even the twisties that are used to fasten a plastic bag are sufficient for this purpose. A strap that goes around the luggage is also useful; get one in a unique color to make it easy to recognize your bag on the carrousel.

You can certainly bring a camcorder, but it should be in your carryon bag, which is much less susceptible to theft.
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Old Aug 10th, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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I meant to add, but got rushed...

In your current situation, you might consider mailing the camcorder to your hotel. Insure it and require a signature and have it waiting for you when you get there. Then do the same for the trip home. Unless you have to overnight it, the cost should be less than having to buy a new camera.
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Old Aug 10th, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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Clevelandbrown,

Her current situation is that she can't take ANY carry-on out of the UK. They are in high-security mode from a recent arrest. So, she's kind of stuck...
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Old Aug 10th, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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I take a handful of cable ties, preferably in bright colors, or in a pinch a bunch of twist-ties. Of course they're easy enough to break, but they are a decent flag to let me know if the bag's been opened or tampered with -- so I use them for flights (esp. with connections) and in hotel rooms when I'm away for a while. No, of course I don't leave serious valuables in luggage, but if there's damage or anything missing, I can pinpoint when/where and maybe who, etc.

Was helpful with claim against airline when someone helped themself to a jacket and sweater during a long layover once.
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Old Aug 10th, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Thanks for imput, now this could be an english/ american difference with the language, but what is cableties? do you mean some sort of cord to tie around my luggage instead of locking it and from what you are saying most of you dont bother to lock luggage going into the hold. And yes it looks like nothing allowed re carry on. Am a positive person so will try and find a way to pack my camcorder and hope for the best. Anyway those buggers are not going to stop this Britisher from visiiting my amercian cousins, We've coped with the IRA/WW1 &amp; 11 etc, etc, and plan to have a great holiday. As an after though we visited Florida a couple of years ago when all the hurricanes where hammering it and boy was it quiet, Disney world/Epcot where practically empty.. It's a shame people stop travelling when distaters happen, again this is what terrorists want, to frighten us into staying home, well no can do.. so see ya all in September, Ya have nice day now!!!
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Old Aug 10th, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Cable ties http://tinyurl.com/qpgq6

They're small, plastic single use ties that you can thread through the zippers and cut off once you reach your destination. You can usually find them in hardware stores.

I prefer to use a TSA combination lock.
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Old Aug 10th, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Check in the electrical section of your hardware store - they use them to bind multiple cables together to prevent &quot;rats nests&quot; of wires.

I would suggest using cableties to attach the camcorder to the inside of your bag. It will help keep it secure during the transport and help it stay in the bag if they do a physical search (a bit harder to claim that it got missed when things went back in). You might even consider taking a snapshot of your bag with all the contents before your flight - just in case.
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