No show tickets become worthless on US Air
Aug 27th, 2002, 07:18 AM
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No show tickets become worthless on US Air
News release from US Air dated August 27:
"Effective immediately, non-refundable fares for all US Airways domestic, Caribbean, U.S. to and from Canada and U.S. to Europe destinations must be used for the specifically ticketed flight and will have no value once the flight has departed. Changes may be made to the non-refundable itineraries before scheduled departure, subject to certain restrictions and fees. Under the previous policy, the value of an unused non-refundable ticket could be credited toward the purchase of another US Airways ticket, less the applicable reissue fee, for up to one year."
No other major airline has such a policy. So beware US Air travelers.
"Effective immediately, non-refundable fares for all US Airways domestic, Caribbean, U.S. to and from Canada and U.S. to Europe destinations must be used for the specifically ticketed flight and will have no value once the flight has departed. Changes may be made to the non-refundable itineraries before scheduled departure, subject to certain restrictions and fees. Under the previous policy, the value of an unused non-refundable ticket could be credited toward the purchase of another US Airways ticket, less the applicable reissue fee, for up to one year."
No other major airline has such a policy. So beware US Air travelers.
Aug 27th, 2002, 08:56 AM
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Do you mean if I get stuck in traffic, or have an accident on the way to the airport that my discount ticket cannot be used for another flight? That sucks. I'll be flying someone else from now on. Unless, like the above said, they are all going to do this, and something tells me they will.
Aug 27th, 2002, 09:47 AM
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It also said stand-by will no longer be permitted on Non-Refundable Tickets.
Drinks will be $4.00 in Coach on International flights instead of free.
Air Tran already has this policy, but their change fee is only $50 and you do not have to reschedule before the flight departs.
Looks like they are going back to prior to deregulation when flying was for the elite only.
This will also apply to Consolidator and Tour Operator fares on US according to the news release.
Drinks will be $4.00 in Coach on International flights instead of free.
Air Tran already has this policy, but their change fee is only $50 and you do not have to reschedule before the flight departs.
Looks like they are going back to prior to deregulation when flying was for the elite only.
This will also apply to Consolidator and Tour Operator fares on US according to the news release.
Aug 27th, 2002, 10:25 AM
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USAir "oficial" response is that airline tickets are like broadway shows, sporting events etc. If you don't show - you lose it.
Seems fair to me but you can sell a broadway ticket sporting event etc.
But I guess that the airlines really need the money and it's time for all the backpackers to apy their fair share.
Do you really thin that 200 buckes to Florida from the Northeast really covers the cost.
Oh well - according to Vic ORBITZ will save the day for us.
Seems fair to me but you can sell a broadway ticket sporting event etc.
But I guess that the airlines really need the money and it's time for all the backpackers to apy their fair share.
Do you really thin that 200 buckes to Florida from the Northeast really covers the cost.
Oh well - according to Vic ORBITZ will save the day for us.
Aug 27th, 2002, 10:27 AM
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Good Grief! What next!
I will have to hurry and choose another date to travel on, pay $100..or make up a set of dates, still pay $100 and pay ANOTHER $100 to change to the correct dates.
USAIR is desperate for cash. I hope the other airlines do not follow suit. Thanks Vic for keeping us up to date on the airlines' shennanigans.
I will have to hurry and choose another date to travel on, pay $100..or make up a set of dates, still pay $100 and pay ANOTHER $100 to change to the correct dates.
USAIR is desperate for cash. I hope the other airlines do not follow suit. Thanks Vic for keeping us up to date on the airlines' shennanigans.
Aug 27th, 2002, 12:45 PM
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Vic
Agents will be of no help with this. All the major airlines will follow
see paper ticket charges etc
The only hope is discount airlines who have more liberal terms
as I said it previous post, prehaps it's time for the backpackers to get off the plane or to pay the fare
Agents will be of no help with this. All the major airlines will follow
see paper ticket charges etc
The only hope is discount airlines who have more liberal terms
as I said it previous post, prehaps it's time for the backpackers to get off the plane or to pay the fare
Aug 27th, 2002, 05:45 PM
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To "noway" -
I don't understand your point abour backpackers now having to pay their fair share? Are you suggesting that people who backpack fit some sort of low income demographic profile, and they make up the majority of people who can and will travel only if they get the cheapest excursion fares?
I don't understand your point abour backpackers now having to pay their fair share? Are you suggesting that people who backpack fit some sort of low income demographic profile, and they make up the majority of people who can and will travel only if they get the cheapest excursion fares?
Aug 28th, 2002, 04:27 AM
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Wondering
It's unfortunate if pilots, mechanics, travel agents etc lose their jobs
but it's ineviatble that some of the "major airlines" will cease to exist in their current form. I do not think they can compete against the JetBlue's Southwests, Airtrans etc.
Also the days of $200 tickets to Florida will end . No one is making money on these fares.
My post referencing backpackers was direct to all the people on this forum who think they have a god given right to cheap fares.
Airfares today adjuted for inflation are less than they were in the early 80's
Wake up people the party almost over for these fares.
Yes - if you can't afford the price - don't fly. This applies to many non-essentials that we purchase.
It's unfortunate if pilots, mechanics, travel agents etc lose their jobs
but it's ineviatble that some of the "major airlines" will cease to exist in their current form. I do not think they can compete against the JetBlue's Southwests, Airtrans etc.
Also the days of $200 tickets to Florida will end . No one is making money on these fares.
My post referencing backpackers was direct to all the people on this forum who think they have a god given right to cheap fares.
Airfares today adjuted for inflation are less than they were in the early 80's
Wake up people the party almost over for these fares.
Yes - if you can't afford the price - don't fly. This applies to many non-essentials that we purchase.
Aug 28th, 2002, 05:10 AM
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Adjusted, air fares are more expensive today than they were in the 1960s. What does that prove?
And why do you assume that people needing cheap fares are backpackers? What on earth does that connote to you?
I'm over 60, have a fixed income that's social security plus about the same amount again, e.g. about $21,000 per year, can plan ahead to see my grandchildren but can't go very often if the prices go up a lot.
I don't wear a backpack.
And why do you assume that people needing cheap fares are backpackers? What on earth does that connote to you?
I'm over 60, have a fixed income that's social security plus about the same amount again, e.g. about $21,000 per year, can plan ahead to see my grandchildren but can't go very often if the prices go up a lot.
I don't wear a backpack.
Aug 28th, 2002, 02:53 PM
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To Wondering etc:
Backpackers is a term I use (correctly or incorrectly) for the groups of people who always think something is too expensive or they have a god given right to get it for less
I'm sorry if you can't see your grandkids but the airlines still have to make money- funny concept isn't it 11
so it you can't afford the price - dont't go
I knwo that htis post will irraite a lot of folks on this thread but the tructh is that the days of cheap fares is probably ending in many markets.
Ok - go ahead and yell at me
Backpackers is a term I use (correctly or incorrectly) for the groups of people who always think something is too expensive or they have a god given right to get it for less
I'm sorry if you can't see your grandkids but the airlines still have to make money- funny concept isn't it 11
so it you can't afford the price - dont't go
I knwo that htis post will irraite a lot of folks on this thread but the tructh is that the days of cheap fares is probably ending in many markets.
Ok - go ahead and yell at me
Aug 28th, 2002, 04:18 PM
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You forgot to mention that you will not get miles on certain airfares and theat if you do on the discounted air, it will not acrue for elite status of any kind. I know many many business people that will no longer be flying US. This is a DUMB move. Non-refundable is one thing but you CAN resell movie and concert tickets to someone else if you can't go. You can't do that with airline tickets unless you are George Forman or one of his sons (get it? they all have the same name). Anyway, if I get caught in traffic or something else happens and I can't make it to the airport they can resell the seat. Why should they make money off it twice. And will they refund my tax? And for the record, I think one of the worst things the airlines have done is eliminate senior fares. If I was a senior I would only spend my money on those airlines that respect their elders like Southwest or Alaska. Unfortunatly those airlines don't fly everywhere. Just my 2 cents.
Aug 29th, 2002, 04:41 AM
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You're a pretty sorry person, "noway." The shoe will be on the other foot soon enough, esp. once top management lets you go. Have to make money, you know.
God, I hate nouveau-yuppies who think having money is their godgiven right and if others don't have money, gee, tough, it's their own fault. A little time-travel to 1930 would do them a world of good. Except, of course, for the minibrained.
God, I hate nouveau-yuppies who think having money is their godgiven right and if others don't have money, gee, tough, it's their own fault. A little time-travel to 1930 would do them a world of good. Except, of course, for the minibrained.
