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Old Sep 30th, 2005, 05:59 PM
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Cooncat,

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I have been in contact with the Wild Dogs and informed them that they are not allowed to see them until after I see them!

Otherwise, the world would be completely unfair if you saw them on your first visit to Zambia, while I have not yet seen them on my first, second or third visit!

If you do see them, I am going to get in touch with my Zambian customs friends and have them charge you some special "I saw the Wild Dogs but Rocco did not, na, na, na, na, na, na" exit fee of about $5,000 USD!

You are NOT allowed to see the Wild Dogs...in case you do, you MUST look away! If you don't look away, I will NOT be your best friend anymore!
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Old Sep 30th, 2005, 06:00 PM
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(I hate when I screw up when I am trying to be clever)

they are not allowed to see them until after I see them!

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YOU are not allowed to see them until after I see them!
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Old Sep 30th, 2005, 06:39 PM
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Rocco - This is tough, because, you know I do owe you a lot. But....I don't think I can possibly look away if I am lucky enough to see the wild dogs! I am fantasizing even at this moment of the great photos I could potentially get!!!! There are many things I would do for you, but this ain't one of 'em!!!! [-(

If it makes you feel any better, just keep reminding yourself that the chances of me seeing them are pretty remote.

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Old Sep 30th, 2005, 06:50 PM
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Sharon,

Allow me to remind you that cats, and ESPECIALLY cooncats, are not supposed to even like dogs, ESPECIALLY wild dogs!!!

Seriously, though, I do hope you are fortunate enough to see the Wild Dogs, although I do think you will be aboout a month late to the party. April seems to be the best time, but April may hurt your experience in Lower Zambezi, while late May will be very nice.

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Old Sep 30th, 2005, 06:58 PM
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what are my chances of beating BOTH of you to seeing the wild dogs? I have 5 days at LRL and Barry does owe me a favor, so...
btw- 18 more days!! Hurrah!
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Old Sep 30th, 2005, 07:01 PM
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Roccco & Cooncat, reading your posts, I'm beginning to feel I've been very, very lucky seeing wild dogs at their den on my first safari, and later actually coming across a den on a walking safari in Zimbabwe. The few dogs that were visible stood on their hind legs to look over the bushes at us, gave little alarm yelps when they saw us, and melted away very quickly. We stayed only a few minutes so that we didn't distress the pack, but the fleeting encounter was a marvellous experience.
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Old Sep 30th, 2005, 07:10 PM
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Dennis,

Don't you have some wave to catch?

I think the wild dogs will have gone south for the summer (southern hemisphere, and all). But, you should treat yourself to a trip to Chipembele, if nothing else to meet Roxy & Robert, the pet warthogs.

Plus, you will surely meet Silky the Impala at Chongwe River Camp. She will eat corn flakes right out of your hand!

Dennis, if you don't stop reminding me that you are soon headed back to my two favorite stops (Chongwe River Camp and Luangwa River Lodge), I am going to get some paranormal specialist to do some kind of abracabadabra on your Hawaiian @$$, and have my soul placed into your body, just as you touch down in Lusaka!

You are going to have such an awesome time, especially since you will be used to the heat from living in Hawaii, and this will not be as much a factor for you as for others. I am really thrilled for you and you have definitely done well by going with Luangwa River Lodge and Chongwe River Camp.

Just a couple last second words of advice. Have Barry request either Tent #7 or #8 at Chongwe. These are bigger than the others and are far away from the dining area and bar.

Also, I am still dying from all my Tetse fly bites (I am like one of those poor b*$***$ on those athlete's foot commercials), so I would recommend long pants, despite the heat and shoes and socks, especially in South Luangwa, although there will be a few Tetses in Lower Zambezi, as well.

Other than that, though, you are soon off on the adventure of a lifetime (until next time)!!!
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Old Oct 1st, 2005, 11:53 AM
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Afrigalah,

I too was fortunate enough to see wild dogs on my first safari (in the Sabi Sands, of all places). That experience hooked me for life.

There was a brief musical greeting at Little Vumbura when I arrived (which wasn't my favourite thing either), but the briefing was, well, brief and to the point, unlike some I've endured elsewhere. A briefing makes sense at LV as there are an unusually large number of activities on offer, and not all people would be familiar with the options. I think it likely does differ from camp to camp -- if you make it clear to the managers that you're not a newbie it helps as well.

Cheers,
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Old Oct 1st, 2005, 01:54 PM
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Funnily enough my best sightings of Dogs have been at Mala Mala, with the obvious exception of seeing the pups at KP this year. But at MM I have seen a kill, and them mobbing Hyenas. The latter was one of the best safari experiences of all time, the interaction was fascinating.
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Hi Matt,

Interestingly, I've also had brilliant wild dog sightings at Londoz. The Sabi Sands isn't exactly known as a 'hot spot' for wild dog sightings, but you never know where the dogs will turn up!

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Old Oct 3rd, 2005, 08:22 AM
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(My apologies for the continued threadjacking, but this wild dog issue/threadjacking must be seen through until its completion)

Dennis,

The wild dogs are back in South Luangwa! 24 wild dogs have been spotted and with a little luck they will stick around for your visit.

http://www.robinpopesafaris.net/itsmonday/content/

They were spotted in the area around Nkwali/Kafunta as you will see in the above report and this is not more than a 1 hour drive from Luangwa River Lodge. Hopefully they will either stay put or they will move closer to Luangwa River Lodge in the next couple weeks!



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Old Oct 3rd, 2005, 01:14 PM
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Roccco,

No need for apologies, not to me anyway. I have no problem with a thread branching into related subjects. What's more natural at a gathering of people discussing common interests? Some forums insist that you must start a new thread, but I find that that breaks the context. My only rules would be: no politics if it's not a political gathering, no religion if it's not a religious gathering, and no shouting at any sort of gathering
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Old Oct 5th, 2005, 01:20 PM
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Afrigalah - I had recently heard that one of the three cheetah brothers at Selinda had been killed. Do you know if this is true?
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Yes. He's believed to have died from snakebite. The trio was last seen together in late June, and he appeared to be very ill. His two 'brothers' were next seen calling for him. They are still patrolling the same vast stretch of territory. As my full report says, we saw them in three different places many kilometres apart during our last safari.

In the past few days, I've learned that the so-called 'brothers' weren't the original trio which started becoming so well-known in the late 90s. One of the originals died in 1999, and a new male joined the surviving pair. Now that another has died, some people are wondering if there will be another new recruit.
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