Kruger vs. Madikwe

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Nov 13th, 2005, 05:48 PM
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Rocco,
All the Exeter lodges at MTBEDS appear to be like Londolozi, for SA residents only, at least that's the way it looks to me. That does not appear to be the case for Simbambili. Is that your understanding?
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Nov 13th, 2005, 09:03 PM
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I went to Mala Mala in Sabi Sand and Makanyane in Madikwe last February. We had five at MM and 4 at Makanyane. Makanyane was lovely with great people, we scored a pretty good deal which they advertised after we had booked, but when we enquired they gave us the special rate. Madikwe is nowhere near as good an experience as Sabi Sand, but it is a good experience. i would counsel anyone never to believe that Dogs are a guarantee. We saw them on our last morning after a very long drive. They are very successful in this park and so if they are a priority for you it is a great spot. We were told they had killed an impala not twenty yards from our room, two days before we arrived. To my mind Madikwe is somewhere you go for specific reasons, other than just general game, and if predators are what you are interested in, then Sabi Sand has it licked.

Rocco's point on bed densities is well made regarding Sabi Sabi, but so is Mkhonzo's. Sabi Sabi is his favourite location in Sabi Sand and so he is a passionate advocate as I am for Mala Mala.

To gain a real appreciation visit www.malamala.tv for their cyberdiary updated weekly. But be sure to drill into the site, reading the history of the Lions and Leopards is fascinating. Also the diary gives a more accurate assessment than the less datiled updates available for many other camps which tend to focus on the one or two spectacular things that happen.

Rocco was in Sabi Sand during the African winter so the birding would be less impressive without the migratory birds, also the birding is of a different quality than that found in the Okavango Delta for example or in Zambia, but no less interesting. At that time of year we came up with 119 species in four days, in the summer we have broken 160 on two occasions and almost made 100 in a day.

I would recommend Sabi Sand, and I find a way to do it budget wise.
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Nov 22nd, 2005, 09:00 AM
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I started a new post this morning, looking for anyone who could compare Etali in Madikwe with Simbambili

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...4&tid=34710801

Brandwire kindly sugested I look for this Thread for further ideas and the comments are very useful thanks.

Napamatt - you found Sabi Sands much better than Madikwe, I presume this was the game viewing, could you give some more details please.

I would still be interested to hear from anybody who has stayed at Etali and Simbambili for a comparison thanks
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Nov 22nd, 2005, 09:06 AM
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Correction - Brandywine apologies for giving you a new name!! dont know where that came from.
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Nov 22nd, 2005, 10:45 AM
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Jeremy

I like both, but Mala Mala has some advantages.

Age - it has been a reserve for much longer, so there are less signs of human habitation. Madikwe is restored farmland. Sabi Sand is definitely not wilderness, but it does feel more like wilderness than Madikwe.

Madikwe has some serious dead spots where there are very few animals. In addition there are not many roads and off roading is allowed under very limited circumstances.

In February there are a billion flies!

I enjoyed Madikwe - lodging was excellent, birding was good, saw some species not seen in SSGR, such as Springbok and Hartebeest. Good Lion sightings, Cheetah and the main event Wild Dogs.

SSGR - has more roads and off roading is at the discretion of the lodges, they own the land. Leopards are the main attraction, there are so many and they are well habituated to vehicles. Also you will find if lucky, good sized herds of Elephants and big herds of Buffalo.
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