Itinerary advice for November honeymoon
May 18th, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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Thanks Bat. Sandi is right. We will be seeing the crater floor in the morning and hiking on the rim in the afternoon.
The rim hotels were not full, but the only one we really considered was the Sopa. The Crater Lodge was too pricey, and I've read too many tales about people getting bumped from the Serena due to overbooking. I've read that Plantation is supposed to be relatively nice, and I think it will be a little more relaxing to spend two nights in the same place.
The rim hotels were not full, but the only one we really considered was the Sopa. The Crater Lodge was too pricey, and I've read too many tales about people getting bumped from the Serena due to overbooking. I've read that Plantation is supposed to be relatively nice, and I think it will be a little more relaxing to spend two nights in the same place.
May 24th, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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Hi Hubby:
Sorry for the delayed response. Family obligations.
Your reasoning is sound--2 nights in one place is usually better--just want to say that you could consider 2 nights at the Sopa--the views from the rim hotels are spectacular (I've stayed at Serena and Crater Lodge but I understand that Sopa's is just as great).
Then you would be at the rim for the earliest drive down, not back tracking after your rim hike and not retracing your steps on the way to the Serengeti.
I understand if you don't want to reconsider --great honeymoon as planned--just a thought.
Sorry for the delayed response. Family obligations.
Your reasoning is sound--2 nights in one place is usually better--just want to say that you could consider 2 nights at the Sopa--the views from the rim hotels are spectacular (I've stayed at Serena and Crater Lodge but I understand that Sopa's is just as great).
Then you would be at the rim for the earliest drive down, not back tracking after your rim hike and not retracing your steps on the way to the Serengeti.
I understand if you don't want to reconsider --great honeymoon as planned--just a thought.
Mar 28th, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Hi All!
As promised, here's a trip report for our honeymoon. Rather than go through a day-by-day account, I thought I'd highlight some of the key decisions we made and how they turned out in retrospect. I hope this is useful for people who are planning their trips.
<b><u><blue>Overall trip itinerary</blue></u></b>
We spent a few days in Qatar before going to Tanzania. We were glad to have done this, as it helped us get over the 8-hour time difference before we started our Safari. We were on Safari for 10 nights, with two-night stays in Arusha (Rivertrees), Tarangire (Oliver's), the Plantation, Central Serengeti (Oliver's) and northern Serengeti (Migration). We were glad to have been able to stay in each place for at least two nights. I think our trip was about the right length, and could have been trimmed by perhaps a day. By the end, we had seen just about all of the animals we wanted to see and were just looking for animals doing things we hadn't seen them do before.
<b><u><blue>Company</blue></u></b>
After talking to a number of different companies, we decided on Kiliwarriors. Overall, we were very pleased with our choice. They were very helpful with pre-trip planning, although I am glad we did not go with Eben's suggestion to start our safari in the north-west Seregeti (near the Mara river). The migration was well past that area by the time we arrived. Our guide, George, was excellent. He was knowledgable and professional, easy to get along with, and comfortable to be around. The only minor problem we had with the execution of the trip is the Kiliwarrior contact was not at the airport when we arrived, apparently due to a change in the time of our arriving flight. However they were there quickly once we notified them we had arrived, and everything was very smooth once George took over the next day. Our vehicle was arguably the best we saw on the entire trip. It had huge roll-down windows that allowed for wildlife viewing while sitting down, although the tarp wasn't very clear when they were rolled up. I would highly recommend getting a pop-top, so that you can stand up and still be in the shade.
<b><u><blue>Time of year</blue></u></b>
We went on safari from the 19th to the 29th of November, during the little rains. The drawback of going at this time of the year is that the animals are less concentrated, their locations are less predictable, and you might get rained upon. On the other hand, the crowds were small, the flies disappeared when it got cloudy, and we got to see things like elephants slipping and falling in the wet mud.
<u>Weather</u>
The first three days of our safari we had no rain at all, and after that there were a few days when it rained for a couple of hours. The rain only really had an impact on our safari twice: once when we were unable to visit a hippo pool (we went back the next day) and on the last day when a swollen stream had caused a bit of traffic on one of the roads (it was cool to ford the stream in our vehicle). In general the weather was nice, especially around Arusha where we had a couple of perfect days, like September in the northeast US. In Tarangire and the Serengeti there were a couple of days in where it got hot in the afternoon. Flies were a problem in the Serengeti and Tarangire when it was hot and sunny.
<u>Crowds</u>
We saw very few guests at any of the places we stayed, with the exception of the Kia Day lodge. A couple of nights, we were the only guests. We really enjoyed this aspect of the trip. Although we met some very nice people at the camps, in general we were happiest when we were away from the crowds. As an extra bonus, we were able to stay in the honeymoon suite at places that had one.
<u>Animals</u>
We were a few weeks too late to see the large herds in southern Tarangire, and the large herds of the migration were around Nabi Hill in the Serengeti. Near Lobo there were a few trailing herds of wildebeest, and some large herds of zebra. Although the animals were not clustered around watering holes, we still saw a ton. In retrospect we were glad to be driving between camps rather than flying, as some of the best wildlife viewing was in transit between camps. It would have been hard to guess where the migration was at this time of year, and by driving through the Serengeti up to Migration Camp we increased our chances of seeing it. Likewise, we saw some of the best wildlife in Tarangire on our way to and from Oliver's.
<b><u><blue>Parks</blue></u></b>
We enjoyed all of the parks, but if we were looking to trim down time I think we could have skipped the day in Manyara, but kept the night safari. We probably could have trimmed one of the days off of our stay in the Serengeti, although we might think differently if the migration had been a little farther north.
<u>Arusha NP</u>
We really enjoyed Arusha National Park. The weather was the best we had all trip, and although it's on a much smaller scale than the other parks the wildlife viewing was excellent. Three of the four snakes we saw all trip were in Arusha, and it ws the only place we saw colobus monkeys. My wife could hardly contain her excitement every time we rounded a bend and saw a new assortment of animals.
<u>Tarangire</u>
Tarangire was one of our favorite parks. It was not as crowded as the other parks, the scenery was breathtaking, and we had some great wildlife viewing. Although the large herds of animals had left the area around Oliver's, we were still able to see elephants close-up on our walking safari.
<u>Manyara</u>
Manyara was probably the least impressive park during the day, although the forests were interesting. It was more crowded than the other parks, but we were the only two people on the night safari.
<u>Crater</u>
I understand why everyone loves the crater. Even though it was relatively crowded, the wildlife viewing was unbeatable. Every which way we looked there was something interesting going on.
<u>Serengeti</u>
We unfortunately just missed the migration in the central Serengeti, but we saw it near Nabi Hill on our way to Olakira. The sheer number of wildebeest was absolutely amazing, and I'm very glad we didn't miss it completely. We saw plenty of cats in the central Serengeti, but the game loops tended to be fairly crowded. The area near Lobo was quieter, and we still had very good wildlife viewing, including several cheetah and lions.
<b><u><blue>Lodges</blue></u></b>
<u>Rivertrees</u>
We were happy with Rivertrees, and from there on out the lodges just got better. Rivertrees is in a beautiful setting, and our room was comfortable, with rose petals on the bed (a nice touch that my wife loved). The service was good, although it felt at times that they were trying a little too hard.
<u>Oliver's</u>
We really enjoyed Oliver's. The managers and staff were charming, and the setting is probably about as close to nature as we got all trip. The open-air bathroom was unexpected, but really cool. You just have to be OK with bugs and the occasional frog. The chemical toilet was not a big deal at all -- it's very similar to a regular toilet. They served us a private bush dinner our last night there, which was made even more exciting by the approaching roars of nearby lions. There were not many animals in that part of Tarangire at that time of year -- apparently most had left just a few weeks earlier. Still, we had some memorable viewing experiences, including some very curious jackals and the closest we got to lions all trip.
<u>Plantation</u>
The Plantation has absolutely beautiful facilities, and it really felt luxurious to stay here in between tented camps. The staff was very professional, and meals were memorable. Each was served in a different well-decorated room, and the food was the best we ate all trip.
<u>Olakira</u>
The tents at Olakira are a little closer to each other than the ones at Oliver's, but we still really enjoyed this camp. It had a good location near central Serengeti game viewing loops, and the manager and staff were friendly and professional. I had warned my wife that the tented camps might be a little rustic, and she laughed when she saw our tent. The interior was more like that of a nice western hotel room, complete with an en-suite bathroom with a flush toilet.
<u>Migration</u>
We stayed in the honeymoon tent at Migration, which was awesome. The entire camp is a little more built up and Disney-esque than the others, but it was a great place to end our trip. The tents can hardly be called tents, with wooden doors and hardwood floors. As nice as the other tents had been, our tent at Migration was probably the best. We were offered a private honeymoon dinner on our deck, from where we were able to watch the animals wander around the path below us. The manager and staff were warm and welcoming, and the camp is well laid out and a pleasant place to stay.
<u>Day room at Kia</u>
This was by far the most disappointing lodging of our trip. The bed was dirty, the food was overpriced, and the power was out. This was also the most crowded lodge, which was a bit of an unwelcome return to the real world. It felt, more than any of the other lodges, like a tourist trap. The grounds are nice, and we managed to escape the crowds a bit by walking around and doing a bit of bird-watching. But if someone is looking for a business opportunity in Tanzania, I think Kia could use some competition.
<u><b><blue>Side trips</blue></b></u>
We took a number of side trips, and I would highly recommend doing the same. It was nice to get out of the car and see the parks from a different perspective. The variety made the side trips among the most memorable parts of our trip.
<u>Canoeing in Arusha</u>
We didn't see a lot of wildlife on this trip, other than a couple of mambas and hippos at a distance. Still, it was nice to get out of the car and see the water close-up. We both enjoyed it.
<u>Walking safari at Oliver's</u>
This was one of our favorite side-trips. Even though there were not a lot of animals in the area, we still managed to get very close to some elephants. It was also a great chance to see details, such as the ants in the whistling thorn Acacias, that are difficult to see from the car. Our guide, one of the managers of Oliver's (Ruolph?), was a great.
<u>Night safari</u>
This was another side trip that was well worth it. It opened up a little oddly, with a three-course buffet dinner in the bush that could have served a group of twelve (there were only two of us). Honestly, we probably would have been happy with some box dinners and more time spent watching wildlife. However it was very cool to see the animals out at night, from genets to hippos.
<u>Rim walk</u>
The crater rim walk was a pleasant surprise. We had to wait for over an hour while they tried to find the guy with keys to the gun cabinet, but once we got going we really enjoyed the walk. Because we were not staying on the crater rim, we really appreciated the views of the crater. The reason the walk exceeded our expectations was the conversation with the ranger who served as our guide. He was friendly and informative, and as much as we liked George it was good to hear a different perspective.
<u>Masaai Village</u>
I have mixed feelings about the Masaai village. On one hand, it was cool to see how the village was constructed close-up. On the other hand, we probably could have done without the tribal dance. The school was particularly disturbing, with children sitting in a room waiting for tourists to enter so they could chant English phrases that appear to be permanently written on a blackboard. We were relieved to find out that the Masaai rotate the people who work in these villages, so that sometimes these children get a real education.
<u>Olduvai Gorge</u>
This was probably our least favorite side trip, and in retrospect I wish we had skipped it (although then I'd always be wondering what I missed). The gorge is not particularly scenic, and although the museum is interesting it's the sort of thing you might find in a good museum of natural history. We would have been better off spending the time watching the migration, which was a couple hours away.
<u><b><blue>Packing and photography</blue></b></u>
We mostly stuck to the list provided by Kiliwarriors. For camera equipment, we brought our digital SLR with a 35-80mm lens and a rented 100-400mm zoom lens. We also brought a small Elph point-and-shoot, as well as a digital video camera. This was a good combination of cameras, as we could put the Elph in our pockets and walk around urban areas, and the 400mm zoom really helped with wildlife photography. Usually when viewing wildlife one of us would have the binoculars (8x) and video camera, and the other would have the SLR. There were times when the 100-400mm lens was not able to capture the full scene we wanted to see. In these cases, we either switched lenses, used the video camera, or used the Elph.
I know it's been said before, but it's really worth practicing with your equipment beforehand. Most of our pictures came out fine (or even great), but some were overexposed. Our video camera in particular started overexposing images halfway through the trip, which we did not notice until the end. I suspect the light sensor got dirty. The most difficult photography was during the night safari. We could not figure out how to take pictures with our SLR, as you usually do not have time to put it on a steady base before the animal has run out of the spotlight. I would practice at home taking hand-held pictures at night of objects illuminated by a bright flashlight. The video camera actually worked pretty well on the night safari.
The other piece of equipment we were glad to have brought was our iPod touch. We used it to record notes (such as what animals we saw), as an alarm clock, and to send email from Migration Camp on Thanksgiving. It takes up little space, and the battery life is long.
<u><b><blue>General observations</blue></b></u>
The food was generally more notable for its quantity than quality. Although most of our meals were adequate, only meals at the Plantation and the soups at Olakira were consistently good. The night safari was particularly odd, with a huge buffet spread for the two of us.
One of the most pleasant surprises of our trip was the quality of the roads. In most cases, they were much smoother than I had anticipated. One of the most unpleasant surprises was the road around the crater. What's up with that? I'd be surprised if the cost of putting in a better road outweighs the cost of the damage done by that road to the vehicles and the local tourism industry.
That's it! Let me know if you have any questions.
As promised, here's a trip report for our honeymoon. Rather than go through a day-by-day account, I thought I'd highlight some of the key decisions we made and how they turned out in retrospect. I hope this is useful for people who are planning their trips.
<b><u><blue>Overall trip itinerary</blue></u></b>
We spent a few days in Qatar before going to Tanzania. We were glad to have done this, as it helped us get over the 8-hour time difference before we started our Safari. We were on Safari for 10 nights, with two-night stays in Arusha (Rivertrees), Tarangire (Oliver's), the Plantation, Central Serengeti (Oliver's) and northern Serengeti (Migration). We were glad to have been able to stay in each place for at least two nights. I think our trip was about the right length, and could have been trimmed by perhaps a day. By the end, we had seen just about all of the animals we wanted to see and were just looking for animals doing things we hadn't seen them do before.
<b><u><blue>Company</blue></u></b>
After talking to a number of different companies, we decided on Kiliwarriors. Overall, we were very pleased with our choice. They were very helpful with pre-trip planning, although I am glad we did not go with Eben's suggestion to start our safari in the north-west Seregeti (near the Mara river). The migration was well past that area by the time we arrived. Our guide, George, was excellent. He was knowledgable and professional, easy to get along with, and comfortable to be around. The only minor problem we had with the execution of the trip is the Kiliwarrior contact was not at the airport when we arrived, apparently due to a change in the time of our arriving flight. However they were there quickly once we notified them we had arrived, and everything was very smooth once George took over the next day. Our vehicle was arguably the best we saw on the entire trip. It had huge roll-down windows that allowed for wildlife viewing while sitting down, although the tarp wasn't very clear when they were rolled up. I would highly recommend getting a pop-top, so that you can stand up and still be in the shade.
<b><u><blue>Time of year</blue></u></b>
We went on safari from the 19th to the 29th of November, during the little rains. The drawback of going at this time of the year is that the animals are less concentrated, their locations are less predictable, and you might get rained upon. On the other hand, the crowds were small, the flies disappeared when it got cloudy, and we got to see things like elephants slipping and falling in the wet mud.
<u>Weather</u>
The first three days of our safari we had no rain at all, and after that there were a few days when it rained for a couple of hours. The rain only really had an impact on our safari twice: once when we were unable to visit a hippo pool (we went back the next day) and on the last day when a swollen stream had caused a bit of traffic on one of the roads (it was cool to ford the stream in our vehicle). In general the weather was nice, especially around Arusha where we had a couple of perfect days, like September in the northeast US. In Tarangire and the Serengeti there were a couple of days in where it got hot in the afternoon. Flies were a problem in the Serengeti and Tarangire when it was hot and sunny.
<u>Crowds</u>
We saw very few guests at any of the places we stayed, with the exception of the Kia Day lodge. A couple of nights, we were the only guests. We really enjoyed this aspect of the trip. Although we met some very nice people at the camps, in general we were happiest when we were away from the crowds. As an extra bonus, we were able to stay in the honeymoon suite at places that had one.
<u>Animals</u>
We were a few weeks too late to see the large herds in southern Tarangire, and the large herds of the migration were around Nabi Hill in the Serengeti. Near Lobo there were a few trailing herds of wildebeest, and some large herds of zebra. Although the animals were not clustered around watering holes, we still saw a ton. In retrospect we were glad to be driving between camps rather than flying, as some of the best wildlife viewing was in transit between camps. It would have been hard to guess where the migration was at this time of year, and by driving through the Serengeti up to Migration Camp we increased our chances of seeing it. Likewise, we saw some of the best wildlife in Tarangire on our way to and from Oliver's.
<b><u><blue>Parks</blue></u></b>
We enjoyed all of the parks, but if we were looking to trim down time I think we could have skipped the day in Manyara, but kept the night safari. We probably could have trimmed one of the days off of our stay in the Serengeti, although we might think differently if the migration had been a little farther north.
<u>Arusha NP</u>
We really enjoyed Arusha National Park. The weather was the best we had all trip, and although it's on a much smaller scale than the other parks the wildlife viewing was excellent. Three of the four snakes we saw all trip were in Arusha, and it ws the only place we saw colobus monkeys. My wife could hardly contain her excitement every time we rounded a bend and saw a new assortment of animals.
<u>Tarangire</u>
Tarangire was one of our favorite parks. It was not as crowded as the other parks, the scenery was breathtaking, and we had some great wildlife viewing. Although the large herds of animals had left the area around Oliver's, we were still able to see elephants close-up on our walking safari.
<u>Manyara</u>
Manyara was probably the least impressive park during the day, although the forests were interesting. It was more crowded than the other parks, but we were the only two people on the night safari.
<u>Crater</u>
I understand why everyone loves the crater. Even though it was relatively crowded, the wildlife viewing was unbeatable. Every which way we looked there was something interesting going on.
<u>Serengeti</u>
We unfortunately just missed the migration in the central Serengeti, but we saw it near Nabi Hill on our way to Olakira. The sheer number of wildebeest was absolutely amazing, and I'm very glad we didn't miss it completely. We saw plenty of cats in the central Serengeti, but the game loops tended to be fairly crowded. The area near Lobo was quieter, and we still had very good wildlife viewing, including several cheetah and lions.
<b><u><blue>Lodges</blue></u></b>
<u>Rivertrees</u>
We were happy with Rivertrees, and from there on out the lodges just got better. Rivertrees is in a beautiful setting, and our room was comfortable, with rose petals on the bed (a nice touch that my wife loved). The service was good, although it felt at times that they were trying a little too hard.
<u>Oliver's</u>
We really enjoyed Oliver's. The managers and staff were charming, and the setting is probably about as close to nature as we got all trip. The open-air bathroom was unexpected, but really cool. You just have to be OK with bugs and the occasional frog. The chemical toilet was not a big deal at all -- it's very similar to a regular toilet. They served us a private bush dinner our last night there, which was made even more exciting by the approaching roars of nearby lions. There were not many animals in that part of Tarangire at that time of year -- apparently most had left just a few weeks earlier. Still, we had some memorable viewing experiences, including some very curious jackals and the closest we got to lions all trip.
<u>Plantation</u>
The Plantation has absolutely beautiful facilities, and it really felt luxurious to stay here in between tented camps. The staff was very professional, and meals were memorable. Each was served in a different well-decorated room, and the food was the best we ate all trip.
<u>Olakira</u>
The tents at Olakira are a little closer to each other than the ones at Oliver's, but we still really enjoyed this camp. It had a good location near central Serengeti game viewing loops, and the manager and staff were friendly and professional. I had warned my wife that the tented camps might be a little rustic, and she laughed when she saw our tent. The interior was more like that of a nice western hotel room, complete with an en-suite bathroom with a flush toilet.
<u>Migration</u>
We stayed in the honeymoon tent at Migration, which was awesome. The entire camp is a little more built up and Disney-esque than the others, but it was a great place to end our trip. The tents can hardly be called tents, with wooden doors and hardwood floors. As nice as the other tents had been, our tent at Migration was probably the best. We were offered a private honeymoon dinner on our deck, from where we were able to watch the animals wander around the path below us. The manager and staff were warm and welcoming, and the camp is well laid out and a pleasant place to stay.
<u>Day room at Kia</u>
This was by far the most disappointing lodging of our trip. The bed was dirty, the food was overpriced, and the power was out. This was also the most crowded lodge, which was a bit of an unwelcome return to the real world. It felt, more than any of the other lodges, like a tourist trap. The grounds are nice, and we managed to escape the crowds a bit by walking around and doing a bit of bird-watching. But if someone is looking for a business opportunity in Tanzania, I think Kia could use some competition.
<u><b><blue>Side trips</blue></b></u>
We took a number of side trips, and I would highly recommend doing the same. It was nice to get out of the car and see the parks from a different perspective. The variety made the side trips among the most memorable parts of our trip.
<u>Canoeing in Arusha</u>
We didn't see a lot of wildlife on this trip, other than a couple of mambas and hippos at a distance. Still, it was nice to get out of the car and see the water close-up. We both enjoyed it.
<u>Walking safari at Oliver's</u>
This was one of our favorite side-trips. Even though there were not a lot of animals in the area, we still managed to get very close to some elephants. It was also a great chance to see details, such as the ants in the whistling thorn Acacias, that are difficult to see from the car. Our guide, one of the managers of Oliver's (Ruolph?), was a great.
<u>Night safari</u>
This was another side trip that was well worth it. It opened up a little oddly, with a three-course buffet dinner in the bush that could have served a group of twelve (there were only two of us). Honestly, we probably would have been happy with some box dinners and more time spent watching wildlife. However it was very cool to see the animals out at night, from genets to hippos.
<u>Rim walk</u>
The crater rim walk was a pleasant surprise. We had to wait for over an hour while they tried to find the guy with keys to the gun cabinet, but once we got going we really enjoyed the walk. Because we were not staying on the crater rim, we really appreciated the views of the crater. The reason the walk exceeded our expectations was the conversation with the ranger who served as our guide. He was friendly and informative, and as much as we liked George it was good to hear a different perspective.
<u>Masaai Village</u>
I have mixed feelings about the Masaai village. On one hand, it was cool to see how the village was constructed close-up. On the other hand, we probably could have done without the tribal dance. The school was particularly disturbing, with children sitting in a room waiting for tourists to enter so they could chant English phrases that appear to be permanently written on a blackboard. We were relieved to find out that the Masaai rotate the people who work in these villages, so that sometimes these children get a real education.
<u>Olduvai Gorge</u>
This was probably our least favorite side trip, and in retrospect I wish we had skipped it (although then I'd always be wondering what I missed). The gorge is not particularly scenic, and although the museum is interesting it's the sort of thing you might find in a good museum of natural history. We would have been better off spending the time watching the migration, which was a couple hours away.
<u><b><blue>Packing and photography</blue></b></u>
We mostly stuck to the list provided by Kiliwarriors. For camera equipment, we brought our digital SLR with a 35-80mm lens and a rented 100-400mm zoom lens. We also brought a small Elph point-and-shoot, as well as a digital video camera. This was a good combination of cameras, as we could put the Elph in our pockets and walk around urban areas, and the 400mm zoom really helped with wildlife photography. Usually when viewing wildlife one of us would have the binoculars (8x) and video camera, and the other would have the SLR. There were times when the 100-400mm lens was not able to capture the full scene we wanted to see. In these cases, we either switched lenses, used the video camera, or used the Elph.
I know it's been said before, but it's really worth practicing with your equipment beforehand. Most of our pictures came out fine (or even great), but some were overexposed. Our video camera in particular started overexposing images halfway through the trip, which we did not notice until the end. I suspect the light sensor got dirty. The most difficult photography was during the night safari. We could not figure out how to take pictures with our SLR, as you usually do not have time to put it on a steady base before the animal has run out of the spotlight. I would practice at home taking hand-held pictures at night of objects illuminated by a bright flashlight. The video camera actually worked pretty well on the night safari.
The other piece of equipment we were glad to have brought was our iPod touch. We used it to record notes (such as what animals we saw), as an alarm clock, and to send email from Migration Camp on Thanksgiving. It takes up little space, and the battery life is long.
<u><b><blue>General observations</blue></b></u>
The food was generally more notable for its quantity than quality. Although most of our meals were adequate, only meals at the Plantation and the soups at Olakira were consistently good. The night safari was particularly odd, with a huge buffet spread for the two of us.
One of the most pleasant surprises of our trip was the quality of the roads. In most cases, they were much smoother than I had anticipated. One of the most unpleasant surprises was the road around the crater. What's up with that? I'd be surprised if the cost of putting in a better road outweighs the cost of the damage done by that road to the vehicles and the local tourism industry.
That's it! Let me know if you have any questions.
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