How safe is Egypt after 9/11/2012

Sep 12th, 2012, 07:10 PM
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How safe is Egypt after 9/11/2012

Has anyone traveled overseas during political issues? I will be in Cairo Egypt & Jerusalem next month on a cruise with Royal Caribbean.
Would the cruise line change ports or destinations closer to my date if things don't change?
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Sep 12th, 2012, 11:51 PM
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I hope Debbie (Casual_Cairo) pops in to give us her opinion. Always nice to hear from someone "on the ground."
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Sep 13th, 2012, 05:51 AM
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Agree, sure wish Debbie would pop in and let us know what she's seeing/hearing.
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Sep 13th, 2012, 05:55 AM
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I've been glued to T.V. I really hope things clear up over there. I was really looking forward to traveling and site seeing.
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Sep 13th, 2012, 06:50 AM
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The cruise line will alter the itinerary based on current events. While I agree with 516TP hoping things will "clear up over there" that is not realistic. We are not talking about weather...there has been a drastic change in leadership creating a very unstable situation. I don't think anyone can say where this is heading but for sure it will take many years to get where it is going and my feeling is tourism is not high on the list. I think the only really "safe" travel to the area right now may be cruise travel where they have the option to call on Egypt or not and also you have the option of going to Cairo or not. At least Giza and the pyramids are not in the center and they may just tailor the excursion to areas they know are not involved? I hope it works out and sorry to sound pessimistic but anyone planning on a trip to Egypt in the next year or two simply needs to be aware of what is going on and decide if they are comfortable and flexible enough to deal with it.
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Sep 13th, 2012, 12:32 PM
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Everything is fine today. I was down by the Embassy today and there was loads of police surrounding the Embassy... so I guess it was safe, and as usual the rest of Cairo was safe where I was. Probably not a great weekend to go out and be an "ugly American", but in general it should be fine. I went out today and had NO problems... from Heliopolis to Maadi twice today and back tonight in a normal taxi where there driver went out of his way all the way home to let me know I was safe and I shouldn't worry.
Worry about Libya if you had plans to go there. Egypt is fine. I'd probably recommend NOT visiting the Embassy right now if you don't have to, but there are other sites to visit.
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Sep 13th, 2012, 05:10 PM
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Keep in mind, no matter what anyone 'on the ground' says, that the embassy is under attack, and Americans will NOT have ANY protection or anyone to help them if needed.

Personally, I think anyone planning to go to Egypt needs to have their head examined.
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Sep 13th, 2012, 05:30 PM
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Agree with tinydancer and would add about six other Islamic countries.

regards - tom
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Sep 14th, 2012, 03:21 AM
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Glad to see Debbie (Casual_Cairo) is online and all is ok with her.

Ron & I often think of you and the wonderfully personal tour you gave us of Cairo.

Wish you the best!
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Sep 14th, 2012, 05:19 AM
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Because of the title of this original post, I'm posting this here for those interested to see: http://www.memri.org/report/en/print6674.htm
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Sep 14th, 2012, 11:55 AM
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Tinydancer, you are soooo funny! Tell us a little about yourself and why you are so afraid of the Muslims? Ever met one? Ever met one you liked? I guess not. I really wish you would get over your bad self and get out a bit and meet some people that think differently than you so you might expand your mind and your experience a little bit. You always come on here with your frightening messages from America, yet don't even know if you have ever traveled outside of America. On your profile, it looks like you might have left N America once or twice but can't really tell if that is Sarah Palin under that cap or you? Do tell us about yourself and your experience with Islam or Islamic countries. I'm very curious.

Royal - nice to hear from you. Yes, everything is OK. Our Ambassador is OK and I heard he brought back his wife today so he must consider their safety well installed if she is back. For the average person, we are fine. Sure there are crazies out there, but aren't there any in the states? Oh yeah, might be one or two left in Colorado. Better not go there either. LOL
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Sep 14th, 2012, 11:59 AM
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P.S. Tinydancer - one has to assume when you've been outside the USA, you've never needed assistance from an Embassy by your comment about how NOW we wouldn't have any help from them - as if we did before. LOL With the American Embassy, plan your needs only on Sunday to Wednesday from 8 to noon.... AND make an appt weeks in advance. And if you really do have a REAL emergency, you better hope they define it as an emergency too.
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Sep 14th, 2012, 12:03 PM
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Cary999 - I have to agree with at least 3 or 4 of the other Islamic countries you probably have on your list (certainly Libya, Syria, and Irac) 6 you suggest, but disagree about Cairo and Egypt. No foreigner here has been hurt due to this incident yet, and it is calmer by the minute. Ensha'alla it will be all done soon.
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Sep 14th, 2012, 01:08 PM
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Thanks for your honest opinions and thoughts. And YES tinydancer I am having my head examined on Monday! This trip has caused more headaches and worries, before even leaving the country.

This trip was planned last year. I'm going with a group and at the last minute someone's plans changed--leaving a slot opened. I jumped in.. thought I was saving the day! This is a 17 day excursion. I have always wanted to visit & explore.

Since then, everything has been a rush. A rush for passport,plane tickets,hotels and travel arrangements. All has been booked. Now what? walk away from the trip? Any suggestions on getting reimbursed?
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Sep 14th, 2012, 02:44 PM
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Casual_Cairo, Thanks for updates!
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Sep 14th, 2012, 02:54 PM
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Debbie--we often think of you. Good to hear your commonsense, "on-the-ground", comments.
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Sep 14th, 2012, 03:51 PM
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Years ago I was on a cruise which included a stop in Israel, but when a bad turn of events occurred they diverted us to Cyprus. So to answer the OP's question, yes they can change your ports if they deem it necessary.

Hello CC and thanks for your good input about Egypt.
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Sep 14th, 2012, 08:36 PM
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Thanks.P_M . Did the Cruise line decide the switch while at sea or before you boarded. The cruise line mentioned they wont know, not until a couple of days before arriving.

My concern was staying out at sea longer than what was scheduled . It takes 4 days to get to the detestation--then 2 days there.
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Sep 14th, 2012, 11:24 PM
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CC - since tourists don't generally go to the area where the US Embassy is - how are things in Giza and at the museum, Citadel, Coptic Cairo, etc.? And how about the other typical places in Upper Egypt and the Sinai?

516TP - Go and have fun! Egypt is a wonderful country with incredible history and fabulous people. Unfortunately, like everywhere, there are some bad eggs that stink the whole place up. But they, thankfully, do not represent everyone.
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Sep 15th, 2012, 09:11 AM
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CC - is the violence still confined to specific areas, which can therefore simply be avoided?
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