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Botswana: Duba Plains and Savuti - Need to add a 3rd camp

Apr 21st, 2009, 06:10 PM
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Botswana: Duba Plains and Savuti - Need to add a 3rd camp

After receiving fantastic feedback from many people on this site, my wife and I had a wonderful honeymoon. The safari part of the trip included 3 nights at each of these 3 camps: Duma Tau, Little Kwara and Kwetsani.

We are now planning to return to Africa for the World Cup 2010 and we are planning another safari with a number of family and friends.

Our current thinking is:
3 nights Duba Plains
2 nights Savuti (we loved Linyanti and Duma Tau, but wanted to try Savuti)
2 nights TBD

Initial thinking was Chitabe, but I have received heard that some people think there are better dry camps.

Any suggestions for the 3rd camp would be appreciated.

Some notes: (1) half the group will have never been on safari, (2) the group agrees that mokoro / water activities can be skipped, (3) we felt that Little Kwara did not live up to Wilderness in guiding, camp atmosphere, food & accomodation (as of May 2008). We would be willing to try another Kwando if highly recommended

It's great to be back on the forum and reading through the wonderful trips others have had!
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Apr 21st, 2009, 07:08 PM
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Chitabe would go well with your itinerary. You could stay at the walking trails hide at Chitabe. That was a lovely night in the open air. Very safe, nicely handled. You could walk there and back or drive there and back or do a combo. I really liked Chitabe for the wildlife and the camp.

At Little Vumbura you could do only land activities, except for the enjoyable 10 minute boat transfer to the island where the camp is located. There is the water option at Vumbura, but there is plenty of dry land with a variety of animals, including sable. I never did a water outing besides the transport to LV during my stay.

The other Kwando camps, which have been highly recommended by others (I've never been), would be in an area not that far from Savuti that seems fairly similar. If you want diversity in your 3 camps, Savuti along with the Kwando camps of Lagoon and Lebala probably would not be the best choice.

I think Chitabe or Little Vumbura (which is very close to Duba Plains if you look on a map so you might think LV is basically the same thing, but it is not at all) would complement Duba and Savuti nicely.

Also in that area is another non-Wilderness camp I'd love to try, Mapula.

Good luck and may your soccer team be victorious.
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Apr 21st, 2009, 11:59 PM
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Khwai area!
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 04:45 AM
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Chitabe Lediba is a great choice. This is the smaller of the two Chitabe camps. It will probably be one of the driest camps for that time of year. Little Vumbura would be a second choice. If you stay within the Wilderness camps then you get a long stay discount.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 05:03 AM
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My wife and I enjoyed Sandibe, which is next door to Chitabe. We liked the cottage-style accommodations and had excellent game viewing (2 different packs of wild dogs!). We had stayed at Nxabega and Savuti as well but Sandibe was our favorite. Good Luck.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 07:12 AM
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You could go to Mashatu...it would be on the way back to JNB. It would be a change of landscape but lots of animals.

I think you could schedule a flight to Mashatu.

www.mashatu.com
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 11:38 AM
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I would suggest Baines or Stanley's Camp. The optional elephant activity at those lovely camps would be a great addition to your itinerary.
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Apr 22nd, 2009, 04:33 PM
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Great idea, MisterAviator.

Here are some links on the elephant walk. One contains another like to Mr.Aviator's report on the ele walk.

http://www.fodors.com/community/afri...f-botswana.cfm

http://www.fodors.com/community/afri...aines-camp.cfm

http://www.fodors.com/community/afri...than-never.cfm
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Apr 23rd, 2009, 01:39 PM
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Thank you all for the helpful feedback!

I will let you know where we end up heading.

Lynn - Thank you for the team wishes. We are rooting for USA. Hopefully WC Qualification will continue going well
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Apr 24th, 2009, 05:14 AM
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I loved Tubu Tree back in 2004. Haven't been to Bots since then so no up-to-date information. Depending on when you go, members of your party could slip in one or two water activities if they wished, after a drive to the water line, but it's a land camp first and foremost.

Have you considered switching tack completely and combining with somewhere like Jack's or San Camp?
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Apr 24th, 2009, 06:15 AM
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I can recommend Mapula, we loved it. It's less about luxury and pampering and more focused on game viewing (also, it's cheaper than most camps in the Delta...), and has a great laid-back atmosphere. They've had wild dogs denning near the lodge the last two years, so if you're lucky and they repeat this year you can enjoy superb wild dog sightings.

you can read more detail in my trip report from last year (the mapula part is more or less in the middle of the reply chain): http://www.fodors.com/community/afri...s-botswana.cfm
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Apr 25th, 2009, 02:16 PM
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hey world-cup,

good idea to go back to botswana. i hope you particpated in the phase one lottery for world cup tickets? if not, phase two is in progress now.

of all the camps you mentioned, the only one i have not visited is kwara. duma tau is an awesome camp with huge elephant herds in the winter (during the time of the world cup). kwetsani will have plenty of water during that time too. not sure when you went last time but the game viewing is much better at duma tau jun-oct. in my opinion, you should have gone to all wilderness safari camps on your last safari. i would not put a client into two wilderness camps and a third camp owned by a different company. it does not make sense from a service standpoint and you also lose the benefit of the long stay wilderness safari rates.

for your next trip, i think you should go to duba plains, then savuti (or duma tau as either one will be excellent in june/july), plus chitabe. as you may know, all four of these camps offer no water activities. duba plains used to offer them but they got rid of the mokoros and boats. i have been to botswana many times but i took my wife and kids in april 2008 for their first trip. to qualify my recomendation, i took them to chitabe and we loved it.

i recommend you round-up your friends and take action to book now. wilderness safaris has made june 2010 low season for anyone that books AND makes deposit by may 31, 2009. after may 31, they will decide if they will keep this in place. also, if you book with one of wilderness safaris destination specialist partners in the USA, you can get the stay7pay6 rate advertised on their web site. this CAN apply for june 2010 but (again) you need to deposit by may 31, 2009. using stay7pay6 and low season rates, june 2010 is almost 45% cheaper than june 2008!

there are also great deals in zimbabwe. with the US lifting travel restrictions last week, zim has been picking up too. wilderness has a stay6pay4 running at little makalolo and ruckomechi. if you book by may 31, 2009 for travel in 2010 you can still get this rate. i have a brave client going for seven days in botswana during june 24-30, 2010 and six days in zim from july 1-6, 2010. they are getting a fantastic RELATIVE deal with the low season botswna rates, stay7pay6 for bots, and stay6pay4 for zim.

good luck.
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Apr 25th, 2009, 05:26 PM
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craig_beal-
Your post/replies would be much easier to read if you used common business punctuation and capitalization. It might also make a better impression on possible clients for you.

regards - tom
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Apr 25th, 2009, 06:13 PM
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Tom - got it. Reponded in the other forum. I am not used to using puntuation and capitalization on any social networking sites. Craig
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Apr 25th, 2009, 06:21 PM
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Thanks Craig.

regards - tom
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