A Safari w/ 1 Carry-On?

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Mar 14th, 2006, 11:28 AM
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Cooncat - I have done an extensive search on those zip off pants and there are NONE that look remotely stylish and most have an outside waist to hip ratio redolent of the days of corsets. Also, I can only find one company (Columbia) that ever makes them in tall (33" inseam), but then they made the rise longer, too! I'm going to try to make my own.

As to the subject of the post: Do your camps supply any amenities, such as shampoo, soap, etc.? If so, you could eliminate those.

Also, I read that camp laundries usually don't wash underwear, so that might entail packing a bit of woolite or some other product like it.
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Mar 14th, 2006, 12:25 PM
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Thanks folks. You all made me laugh. I am not really concerned about being overly stylish, but those pants do not help me much. ;-) Mostly, I find really high-waisted slacks very constricting, hot and uncomfortable.

Good question re: the soap. I am hoping camps provide soap for laundry and body. Mostly true?
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Mar 14th, 2006, 01:33 PM
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Sharon -

Some camps/lodges provide amenities, others not. As to soap for laundry, again, some do, others not. But nothing wrong with a bar of soap to get done what has to be. Or pop a bar of soap/flakes into a baggy and you're set to do laundry. It's only a few pair of wears how much soap do you need!
 
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Mar 14th, 2006, 01:40 PM
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I carry a "wash kit" in a ziplock sandwich bag...packets or leakproof bottle of woolite, stain-remover pen, flat rubber sinker stopper, and a clothesline. The line is made of twisted elastic strands that you shove the corners of your undies between. On the ends are suction cups and clips, and I've always been able to find someplace to string it up.

Sandi is correct...it varies between camps and lodges as to whether or not shampoo or wash powder is provided. I take my own shampoo and conditioner in small leakproof (Nalgene) bottles. I don't think I've ever been to any camps that didn't provide a bar of soap, however.
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Mar 14th, 2006, 02:11 PM
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Sandi - I do have a chunk of some type of laundry soap and I am mostly just chattering here at this point and wondering out loud. In Europe and elsewhere I do all my laundry so it's not a big deal. But when it comes to packing into small bags, every little bit helps!
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Mar 14th, 2006, 04:22 PM
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I agree with (atravel)lynn about binoculars. No spare underwear or socks I can handle, but not having my own binoculars I can't (that is based on experience).
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Mar 14th, 2006, 06:34 PM
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Whew! That was a LOT of information!! Okay, we'll definitely bring binocs! BTW, has anyone tried the disposable underwear? They look like they really save space ( a 5-pack = a business envelope)~'saw them on Magellens.com

Thanks for the packing tips,Toshi. Your detailed list was amazing and so helpful. I bookmarked your page for future reference/tips.

And thanks to Shay Tay and all the rest who provided names and sites for safari gear~we're newbies and need all the help we can get. After reading your posts, we'll bring a bar of soap and a pack of toweletts for hands, a travel size bottle of shampoo and laundry soap. We're also seriously thinking about the Epson 2000 vs the laptop. 'Don't know much about cameras and accessories, but we're taking a digital class starting next week to learn a bit more.

Thanks again, everyone! You all are GREATh trip advisors.
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Mar 15th, 2006, 04:53 AM
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Hi Mairsey,
Haven't heard of disposable underwear but have heard of edible undies - ewwww - very biodegradible - sorry

We did carry ons for most of our trip. 1 duffle each and 1 backpack each - never had to check them in.

We allowed enough room in one backpack to put our camera equipment if needed. This would done in the event that we were told that we could carry 2 rather than 3 bags.
The second backpack had a second carry bag inside with all essentials. The idea was if we weren't allowed to bring the backpacks onboard we could easily take out what we needed - camera and essential bag and check them and the duffles in. Hope that makes sense.
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Mar 15th, 2006, 06:41 AM
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Hey Sherry

You lost me with the backpack and duffle routine. If they wouldn't allow both pieces on, did you plan to stash your camera in the TOTE that was inside one of your backpacks and carry IT on and check the duffle?? Gosh, this is like "Who's on first?"!

We hope to use 1 of the backpacks for camera and accessories and the other for snacks, water, meds, travel docs and a change of clothes. The carry-ons will have everything else. If we have to check the carry ons, at least we'll have the most impt stuff with us.

BTW, can we LOCK our carry-ons if we have to check them? What about 9/11 security checks that prohibit locks? Is that going on internationally as well?

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Mar 15th, 2006, 07:00 AM
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Sherry

Ha, ha on the edible underwear On an day where we're flying for almost 24 hours, it becomes disintegrating underwear!
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Mar 15th, 2006, 07:46 AM
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To my knowledge, you can't lock check in luggage, as security will have the right to break your lock - we usually use something to tie our zips together - like thin wire or similar as this will enable security to get into the bag and possibly deter theft b/c it will take a few more seconds to gain entry or at least alert us that someone has been in our bags.
I believe that the security people are supposed to alert you with a sticker if they've been in your bags.

We bring 1 backpack and 1 duffle and 1 person bag (this being the camera and our personal effects bag which may or may not end up in the backpack but there's room in the backpack to store these items just in case.

In the event that the airline tells us that we cannot take our backpacks on board we then take our camera case and personal effects bag out and carry those on board, as they will be small enough to keep on our person during the flight. We also do not put anything we care about into our duffles just in case we're told we can only take one item on board. If, on the other hand, they say the backpack is allowed but only 1 piece of carry-on each, then the camera and the personal effects bag stay packed in the backpack.
Hope that makes more sense.
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Mar 15th, 2006, 08:03 AM
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If I had to check a carry-on, I would secure it some way...lock or cable tie. If the "powers that be" decide to remove it, the cable tie would be the cheaper option. Cable ties are those plastic strips that electricians use to bundle wires together. I carry fingernail clippers that I use to remove the tie at my destination. Just leave a bit of a loop in the tie that you can get the clippers in.
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Mar 15th, 2006, 09:05 AM
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We used TSA approved combination locks last time which worked well. Our luggage was inspected and re-locked with a note placed inside the bag. Cable ties would also work. I wouldn't check your bags without some minimal form of theft deterrent.
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Mar 15th, 2006, 01:58 PM
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TSA-approved locks are great in the US, but I don't know that foreign airport personnel have those keys. I locked my case with a TSA lock on my trip to and around southern Africa and still had my lock intact at the end of the trip. Usually, they aren't going to look in the case unless they see something suspicious on the X-Ray/Cat Scan: a bunch of wires or something too thick for the machine to scan (don't stack your books on top of each other.) If you only have clothes and toiletries in your checked bag, I wouldn't think they would open it overseas.
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Mar 15th, 2006, 02:07 PM
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Foreign airport personnel won't be able to open TSA locks but I noticed at both Nairobi and Kilimanjaro airports that luggage was xrayed before getting to the check-in counter. I assume if they see something suspicious, they'll ask you to open it then. We were primarily concerned with TSA checks as they seem to happen with great frequency.
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Mar 15th, 2006, 05:16 PM
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Here's a thought on the '24 hour' undies rather than buying the disposable ones-
At home, when you go to throw out a pair of old undies, don't. Wash them one last time - put them in a bottom drawer, and forget about them until you have a LONG international flight. Put them on one last time before going, and then just throw them away when you get to your destination!
I have four pair (why is underwear a 'pair' I wonder?)saved for this trip - Vancouver to London, London to Nairobi, Nairobi to London and then London home to Vancouver.
This has always worked well for me for long flights!
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Mar 15th, 2006, 07:40 PM
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Good idea about the cable ties on the luggage. I haven't checked luggage in a long, long time and really hope we don't have to.

Lynda~ good idea on the undies, too. I think I'm going to try the disposable ones for at least part of the time since they claim to be comfortable and even washable for re-use! It'll save so much room in our bags and after reading Toshi's great packing list, I'll need all the room I can get!

From what I've read so far, bug spray, sunscreen and germicidal hand gel is really what people wish they had more of when they get there. Will we need small gifts for staff members or is cash always enough? What about the local children? Thanks for your help!
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Mar 16th, 2006, 08:40 AM
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There are usually tip boxes at each camp or lodge where you'll place your tip. The proceeds of the box are distributed among all the staff. This seems fair, as not all the staff comes in contact with you during your stay, but are just as important as those that do. That said, if there is someone really special that you'd like to tip extra or give a small gift to, that is always appreciated. When we stayed at Ngorongoro Farmhouse in 2004, a couple of the ladies working there admired my sister's earrings. I returned there in 2005, bearing gifts of earrings for those same ladies from my sister. They were touched by the gesture.

Will you be visiting a school or orphanage on your safari? Karatu, near the Crater, is an excellent place to do so. If you do, you can bring items to give to the teachers or staff, who will distribute them to the children. These visits are always a hightlight of my safari.
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Mar 16th, 2006, 03:19 PM
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Hi Shay Tay
We're going to be on a private safari so we are very flexible with the itinerary. I'm sure our driver could take us there if we asked him. I would love to see some of the local people, especially children, but don't want to hit the touristy, "constructed" kinds of places. Please let me know what kinds of lightweight goodies they like. I've been reading that nail polish, bracelets and barrettes might be good for women and children. What do you think?
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Mar 17th, 2006, 06:55 AM
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Hold the barrettes.
Most of the tribal little girls (and women) have shaved heads... nothing to barrette. Bracelets have to be small enough for tiny wrists. Nail polish is good for grown women and a nice gift for housekeepers/maids at your camps/lodges as an extra gift. Lipstick is "so-so" as many of the tribal women do not wear this.

As always, it's best to hand over a bag of goodies to a teacher or some supervisor at a school for them to distribute or share.

Pencils, always, though some places have so many, they'd prefer pens, chalk, color markers, small lined notebooks, flat wall maps, or blow-ups if you can find these. Consider some of those small children's reader books Even a soccer ball.

Hope this helps.
 
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