smosweet

Well, a very well-intentioned surprise trip to Paris for my boyfriend was inadvertently compromised, which led to a long, involved discussion about travel and places and whatnot. My boyfriend loved the idea, but he said he'd prefer to spend longer in a given country, and that he was really interested in Milan. Yes, I guess I'm Exhibit A why you should approach surprise trips with caution: they may be great in theory, but sometimes things won't work out like you're planning or your partner is expecting/wanting something else.

So February for Milan sounded dismal. Not really in terms of weather, probably no worse than Paris, but if we're going to Italy, a country neither of us have been to before, and we're going to Milan (which I had little to no interest in before research) then I'd like somewhat nice weather. So the plan is now the last week of April 2013.

This has morphed into a 10 day, 9 night trip to Milan and (blank), the other location to be determined. Boyfriend wants Milan for opera, soccer, and people watching/fashion. I'm agreeable, so I'll try to plan something that touches all of those elements. He thinks 3 nights would be enough for Milan.

My question is what to do with the 6 nights following Milan? I don't want to run across the country, trying to squeeze in Florence, Tuscany and Rome because it sounds rushed and not a good way to utilize time or get a sense of those places. We don't want to rent a car at any point either, so we'd prefer easy train access and a pedestrian friendly location. We came up with a combination of Venice and Milan to maximize time on the ground and incorporate some of our favorite activities:

fly into Milan, 3 nights Milan, train to Venice, 6 nights in Venice, fly home from Venice (possible day trip to Padua or Vicenza, possible stop in Mantua on way to Venice for food?)

PROS: engineering marvel, romantic, great museums, art and architecture, no need for car rental, seafood to our heart's content

CONS: expensive? is it truly a large tourist trap, or in 6 nights can we explore areas off the beaten path? staying in the two most expensive cities in Italy seems like we wouldn't necessarily get a good sense of Italy?

I think this might be the best option so that we have an open jaw flight. We floated Florence and Tuscany, but I think we'd want more nights between the countryside and the city, and we'd have to connect in Heathrow if we flew out of Pisa, versus roundtrip nonstop between New York - Milan and Venice - New York (we have to fly British Airways/American Airlines).

I really want to go to Rome, but maybe this is a case where you can't do everything at once, and it makes more logistical and thematic sense to stick to Milan, Venice and a few towns in Veneto or Lombardy, and put Rome on the (hopeful) next trip to Italy?

Would love to hear other thoughts of travelers that have been to Italy before! Is there another option

Thank you!

(In case anyone was curious, here was my initial post: http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...ruary-2013.cfm)

wanttogo

I have not been to Venice in the winter but I think you may run the risk of flooding at that time. I really would research this carefully. On the other hand, you will avoid all
the cruise ship crowds and that is a good thing. Why not go toVenice for 3 nights and Verona for 3 nights. Or maybe 4 nights and 2 nights. Add some vaiety to your trip.

Pat

StCirq

Milan is definitely not a tourist trap. By the same token, it doesn't fill most travelers' definition of a great destination - it's a business town. If you're in the fashion industry, I suppose it would satisfy some travel interests, but apart fom the Last Supper (which isn't to be discounted), I can think of 100 places in Italy I'd rather be.

I'd worry about weather at that time in Venice a bit, too.

Can you not do just Rome and maybe Milan for a day or two?

smosweet

Damn. I really hoped that by end of April the flooding possibility in Venice would be significantly decreased. Thanks for the weather heads up, StCirq and wanttogo.

The reason I am hypothetically slotting in 3 nights for Milan is because if BF is set on an opera and a football/soccer match, I can't imagine we would do either of those things the day we arrive, and we'd probably need to do them on two different days so we do have time to walk, shop, see the Last Supper and Duomo etc.

I may have been premature in posting this, maybe I should do more climate research on Italy in end of April. If only he was more open to Paris! But oh well.

mamcalice

The end of April is not winter in Italy. You should do fine in Venice. Or Rome which would be a good choice for 6 days. Have you considered Paris and Milan? That trip could be done in 9 days.