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Old Feb 14th, 2007, 04:48 PM
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Las Vegas Trip Report (Long)

February 9, 2007 Friday
Linden, NJ

Several weeks ago we heard an offer on the radio from Tahiti Village, a timeshare community, to come and see their Las Vegas timeshare. For our troubles we’ll receive 4 nights hotel stay on the strip, $200 in play chips, a free marriage ceremony, and free tickets to a comedy show. All we had to do was listen to a 2 hour sales pitch about their timeshare.
We had several hotels to choose from, while we were on the phone we them we quickly checked on the Internet which hotel was the most expensive, and picked the Monte Carlo.

Tahiti Village contacted us one more time on the phone, and twice by mail to make sure we still plan to arrive. If we didn’t, they would charge us for the rooms. We did our research, found out what to do, where to go, checked out the travel sites, promptly Fodor’s had an article on Vegas.

Our flight was delayed for an hour, but we got off the ground and six hours later we were in Las Vegas.

February 9, 2007 Friday
Las Vegas, NV

We took an airport shuttle to the hotel (around $5.50 each plus tip), and headed to find the Tahiti Village representative. We made an appointment to go get the sales pitch (Sunday at noon), and got all of our free stuff minus the $200 chips, which we will get after the presentation.

The rooms at the Monte Carlo are very nice, spacious and clean. The hotel is huge (as if there is a small hotel in Vegas), and very expansive. Most important, we finally found a hotel with a great shower.
Unbelievable!

Since it has been many hours since we ate (at least 10) we went to the Monte Carlo’s Brew Pub. One would think that with such a name, it would be a brewery, but it’s not, just a restaurant. We scowled down a burger and salad for the tune of around $50, and started walking around.

The first casino we walked into was New York-New York. Being from the area, we found some of the smaller details fascinating, like steam coming out of the manholes, and statue of liberty torches as door handles. We got show tickets for Cirque du Soleil’s Zumanity that evening (around $210 for two tickets).

We walked over the Excalibur where we played some slots and doubled our money in Blackjack (yes, we left…). The hotel is pretty cool, lots of cheesy ornaments, but all in all it has personality.
The MGM has live lions on display, so you know we had to see that, it was crowded since it is one of the few things which kids can do in the city.

We walked over to the Luxor, walked around and took some pictures. Then we walked outside to try and find a good angle to take our picture with the sphinx and the pyramid.
Why?
Because that’s the hotel you see in all the movies. After seven or eight angles we finally got a good one.

Walking back to the Monte Carlo to rest, take a shower and got back to New York – New York to see the show. We walked into Zumanity about 15 minutes before the start, and we should have gotten there earlier. Some of the performers were mingling with the audience cracking jokes and playing gags.
The show is very risqué, and no one under 18 is allowed inside. If anyone wondered what contortionists look like naked, that’s the show for you.
(P.S. Cirque du Soleil – I just sold you an extra 1,000 tickets, just FYI for future discounts). The show is very sexy and funny, sort of a cabaret which combines music, dancing, acrobatics and very colorful. Unlike the rest of Las Vegas’ cabarets, Zumanity brings on stage people of all shapes, colors and sizes, including a few audience members.
We enjoyed the show very much.

We tried to look for a place to eat steaks, NY-NY has a steak place ($40 average entrée), which we figured we’ll skip. Monte Carlo also has a steak place ($50 average entrée), which we didn’t want to spend that kind of money on dinner, so we opted for the café in the Monte Carlo which are opened 24 hours (basically a diner in the casino).

February 10, 2007 Saturday
Las Vegas, NV

We went to the Monte Carlo’s buffet to eat breakfast, even though we woke up early Vegas time (we were 3 hours ahead), they were people sitting in the casino playing and drinking.
We decided over breakfast to go to Red Rock canyon. It was a toss up between that and the Hoover Dam, but we thought we saw Red Rock canyon in the National Geographic Traveler magazine we got a day before we left, so we figured it must be a sign.
We took the Red Rock Canyon express guided tour on a small coach which lasts for four hours ($60 per person, hotel to hotel), we booked with the Monte Carlo’s consigner.
Our tour was supposed to start around noon, and we had a few hours to kill, so we figured we’ll walk in the opposite direction which we did the night before.
We stopped at the Bellagio, and found out it had a beautiful display for the Chinese new year, even the Chinese tourists were impressed by it.
When walking through we noticed something strange, no kids. This is a trend we noticed in Las Vegas, it is not kids friendly. Even though they tried several years ago to become a family oriented town, it didn’t stick and now they don’t even try. Even the minimum bets in the Bellagio were high.
By the time we finished looking around we had to start heading back for our tour. Our guide, Gary, was very knowledgeable about the history of the area and the wildlife; we were two couples who took the tour (four people) which made it a lot nicer, more pleasant and personal. Red Rock canyon is amazing; the landscapes are beautiful, and picturesque. It was suppose to rain on Sunday, but Gary told us that it hadn’t rained in Vegas in six years, and it’s not going to rain tomorrow either.
We came back four hours later very happy and satisfied; we recommend this excursion whole heatedly.

We ate dinner at the Monte Carlo’s Dragon Noodle, one of the good restaurants and not “Vegas priced”, and went to see the Bellagio’s water show which was much shorter then we expected but still very cool.
We continued to Caesar’s Palace, another good looking hotel, and walked around / people watched for about two hours (there is a lot to see). Since the NBA all star game was in town, we got to see a few players walking around, which was cool.
Afterwards we went up on the “Eiffel Tower” in the Paris hotel ($9 per person), to see the strip from up high. The view was excellent on such a clear night and we got some great pictures. At that time of the night the Bellagio water show is every 15 minutes, so we got to see it from 11 floors up. We weren’t very impressed with the hotel itself from some reason.

We miss our daughter.

February 11, 2007 Sunday
Las Vegas, NV

Since we had a long day on Saturday, we slept in on Sunday, it was supposed to rain anyway, but turned out it was the sunniest day yet, the TV weatherman however kept insisting it’s raining outside…maybe they need a window office. Sunday brunch buffet was more expensive (about $25 per person), but the lines to the café were long (the only other place opened), so we sucked it up. We finished and went to get the sales pitch for Tahiti Village, they came to pick us and a few other couples up in a mini bus, and two hours later we were proud owners of…
Not really!!!
They had a good sales pitch, but the numbers didn’t add up and it was expensive ($50K to start…Puh-leeze). We also don’t see the point of going somewhere only to sit by a pool … we could do that in Jersey.
We got our $200 of slots money in Casino Royal, and were on our way.
To give credit where credit’s due, Tahiti Village stood by all their promises and took good care of us, they didn’t pressure us, and the presentation was 2 hours.

We got back to the hotel, and walked over to the Mandalay Bay.
We didn’t like it, the hotel had no “personality”, even though it certainly seemed like a high class joint.

We stopped at the Venetian, which tied to the Vellagio as our favorite hotel. It is huge, has its own unique feel, people seemed to be happy to be there and an amazing painted ceiling.
We walked towards Casino Royal, stopped to watch the volcano at the Mirage, and played Casino Royal.
After visiting all the high-end hotels, Casino Royal seemed like a dump in the midst of some white trash social event, but hey…we play for free. They honored our coupons but there was a catch, we could only play on certain machines, which only pay out jackpots. We were up almost $600, but couldn’t get the cash (you also get $50 coupon for opening an account with the casino).
We went to Treasure Island to see the pirate show, and decided to stop at Francesco’s for dinner. This would be our expensive Vegas / Valentine’s Day dinner. Our waiter Andy, a fellow from Budapest, was very knowledgeable, friendly and made the occasion even more special. Even though the restaurant seemed stuffy when we walked in, it wasn’t.
The food was plenty, very good and fresh. We spent around $150 for an appetizer, two entrees and alcohol (including tip).

February 12, 2007 Monday
Las Vegas, NV

We can’t wait to get home; we’re all “Vegased out”. We miss our daughter and sin city took its toll.
We ate at the buffet the last time, printed our boarding pass from the Monte Carlo’s business center ($1 per page), and went to buy some t-shirts at The Grand Canyon experience store.
The M&M factory store should be in the dictionary under “tourist trap”.
Since we didn’t buy a round trip ticket at the airport for the shuttle we had to take a taxi from the hotel, but they cost the same if you’re two people.

On the flight back we used the time to plan our next big trip – Israel in September

Deals:
Like I said, hotel was free
Best deal in town is The Deuce, a double decker bus line which runs up and down the strip. Five dollars for a 24 hour pass, or $2 per ride and comes every five minutes or so in front of all major casinos.
TIX4TONIGHT has several booths on the strip and sell show tickets for half price, but you have to go that night. I believe they update their listings at around 10:30 AM.
Get the local ad rags, they have coupons and free stuff.
The Grand Canyon experience store, next to the M&M factory has Las Vegas memorabilia and is not “Vegas priced”.
If you go without a deal like ours, buy a package.
Play at the older hotels, which are paid off, they pay out more.

Overall:
The town is expensive, we spent $800 after winning at the tables, not gambling much and not drinking a lot (one of us is pregnant).
Las Vegas is about three things: sex, alcohol and gambling … do not bring your kids (we left ours with the grandparents), they have nothing to do there, and the Casinos don’t want them there. Also, there are Mexicans handing out flyers for hookers to every male walking by (with our without a companion), on almost every corner.
Both you and them will be miserable.
Get good walking shoes, average day in Vegas people walk about 20 miles.
There is T&A all over the place, a strange mix of people, but good times for a few days.

Pictures at:
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Old Feb 14th, 2007, 06:03 PM
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Excellent review, any comments on where to get a decent cup of coffee with out costing an arm and a leg?

And any hidden free/cheap gems you found?

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Old Feb 15th, 2007, 04:37 AM
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Thank you for the TR. DH has been noticing the ads for Tahiti Village. I've been reluctant to do it. One time in Mexico I got in on a really bad timeshare sales pitch.

I think I could handle this
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Old Feb 15th, 2007, 04:56 AM
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Sinecure: The Scottish restaurant (McDonald's) gave out small free coffees.

The hidden / free / cheap gems we found are in the bottom of the report.
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Old Feb 15th, 2007, 04:59 AM
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I sure had to laugh at your comment that there were no kids ... you must have hit the only dates in the year when the town was kid-empty. I go to Vegas alot and there are always way too many kids. It is no place for them but parents insist on dragging them around all hours of the day and night anyway.

I am glad you had a good time and thanks for letting us know about your trip.
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Old Feb 15th, 2007, 05:28 AM
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Interesting report. It is hard to go somewhere like Las vegas for free or otherwise and not spend some money.

Kids? perhaps they were all at Circus-Circus.

One thing about leaving children at home; that way they can't see what the adults, including their parents, are doing!
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Old Feb 15th, 2007, 06:17 AM
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I didn't explain myself well.

We saw kids, but they weren't all over the place (unless you go to the MGM's lion cages).

We noticed that there are no kids accomodations, no "stuff" for them to do in town.
Parents were walking around pushing / carrying / dragging their kids along, and most looked miserable (parents and kids).

We saw few teenagers, even though in that town it's hard to tell age.

The new casinos make an effort, it seems, not to accommodate families.
Which is fine, but I figured I'd warn anyone who wants to go with their children.
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Thanks for the report. Do you think you could rent a car and go to Red Rock Canyon yourself and still feel you had a sense of the canyon? There are four of us going. Any hiking on your tour? Thanks
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Thanks for the report. We were planning to take our 2 children to Las Vegas in March but maybe we should cancel the tickets. The kids are pretty young for this and I'm not sure they would enjoy it. The older is 30 and the younger is only 24.
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Old Feb 16th, 2007, 10:48 AM
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KIDS:
There are things for kids to do on the Strip. Circus Circus exists for kids.A few casinos have arcades. M&M World tends to be a hit with kids (and even shows films with the M&M characters). I believe the early Folies Bergere show is a covered show (not topless), so the entire family can see it (although I cannot recommend the show).
Even though there are things kids can do and enjoy, Vegas is an adult playground. I don't think that I would take kids to Vegas if I had kids.
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Well done! We love Vegas and are going again in April (kids with G'Ma, of course!)...good tip about the Deuce as we are staying at MGM this time-not as central as we are used to.
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Thank you for a GREAT trip report! I've been curious about Red Rock, and it sounds like you enjoyed the tour you took. I'm putting that on the schedule for next year.

Now we all want to listen to the Tahiti Village sales pitch!

My friends and I were actually at Zumanity the night before you (the 8th). My friend got "called out" to be a part of the pre-show. It was hilarious. We enjoyed the show too. Weren't the women who did the act in the water bowl just phenomenal? I was in awe!
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Old Feb 19th, 2007, 09:26 AM
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Jilliansmom:
Entry into Red Rock Canyone with a car is $5. It's absolutly doable by yourself and about 15 min. away from the strip. They do have car trails and organized places to stop (scenic overviews and such).
It's more then worth the entry fee.

We didn't do much hiking (my wife is 7 months pregnant), but you can certainly go hiking, they have several trails. All they ask is that you tell them where you're going and for how long.
While there we saw a rescue of a climber who fell, so be careful.

rm_mn:
LOL, 30 and 24 are not kids

sunnybrook31:
Yes, the ladies with the fish bowl were fantastic. Zuamanity is not for everyone, but we thought it was great.
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Jilliansmom, you definitely can go to Red Rock Canyon without a guide. It's my favorite place in the Las Vegas area for hiking and rock scrambling (and rock climbing as well, if you're so inclined).

The most basic tour is a drive through Red Rock. There's a one way road (about 13 miles) that goes through the area. I personally think the drive is only fair, but if you haven't seen much scenery in the western U.S., I guess it's worth it.

You mentioned hiking. That's definitely the way to go. Red Rock has trails ranging from easy (I believe one is even wheelchair accessible) to rock scrambling routes that could curl your toes.

If you'd like more info, give me an idea of what type of hike you're looking for (length; difficulty; type - flat, hilly, up to a mountain peak, etc).
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Well, heck, we leave for Vegas tomorrow night WITH the children. We only decided on Thursday to go somewhere and frankly, Las Vegas was the only warm weather option not requiring passports. Still, we're excited and so are the children. They are glad we don't pawn them off on grandma and grandpa everytime we want to go somewhere.

We are staying at The Signature at MGM Grand, a non-casino facility that is fairly new and got pretty good reviews on various web sites. We are doing Hoover Dam, Lied Children's Museum, the King Tut Exhibit at Luxor, the volcano, the pirate show at Treasure Island, the afternoon magic show, the jousting dinner at Excaliber, etc. Call us lousy parents but we do pretty much everything with our kids and always have a good time. OK, bash away.
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How about a little praise instead of bashing. While I don't agree with all the places you take your children, they will learn lots from these excursions with you. Children who are exposed to a variety of situations are better prepared for later life and learn their school lessons better because they are more relevant when they have seen what is being taught.
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Good idea staying at MGM. South Strip is one of the the better locations with kids.
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We took a tour through Shark Reef at Mandalay Bay. Informative and fascinating for the kids, and our kids are 24 and 30. ;^)
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My husband and I going to Vegas in May for the "Tahiti Special". We had no choice on hotels and they have placed us at the Sahara. I hope it is better than the reviews. Thanks for the tips. We did place a $99.00 deposit, is that refundable , as they claim? Did you see the comedy show and was it worth it? Tx
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They should do something there with all the Mexicans handing out flyers for hookers.
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