How to do 4 people in a room for cheap?
Jan 27th, 2003, 06:35 AM
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How to do 4 people in a room for cheap?
Anyone have any advice on how to get double occupancy rates even though we'll have 4 people in a room? Rates go up so much with 2 additional people in the room, it is impossible to get a hotel under $100 a night! Can I just tell them there's 2 in the room even though they'll be 4?
Jan 27th, 2003, 07:01 AM
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Of course you can tell them there is only two of you. They will never no the difference. Even if they do catch you, it is not a crime. The worst that will happen is you may have to pay the additional cost. I doubt the hotel would even make you do that though.
Was this a legit question or a troll post?
Was this a legit question or a troll post?
Jan 27th, 2003, 07:01 AM
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Where are you going?
If you try booking on Expedia, you'll get a quote for one room, regardless of the amount of people in the room. In some places, like Las Vegas, they do have a charge (like 25 a night) for extra people.
The usual thing to do would be to just book a room, have one or two people at the front desk to register, and then get four in the room. I have yet to see a hotel getting angry for that.
If you try booking on Expedia, you'll get a quote for one room, regardless of the amount of people in the room. In some places, like Las Vegas, they do have a charge (like 25 a night) for extra people.
The usual thing to do would be to just book a room, have one or two people at the front desk to register, and then get four in the room. I have yet to see a hotel getting angry for that.
Jan 27th, 2003, 07:33 AM
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Thank you for the advice. We are staying in Las Vegas. This is a totally legit question...I just think it is a rip off that hotels need to charge you more for the SAME ROOM if you want more than 2 people to stay there.
Jan 27th, 2003, 07:53 AM
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Check-in at the airport if your hotel offers this service, while 2 people in your party wait for your luggage. If not, when you get to your hotel, just make sure that only 2 people approach the front desk to register, and don't ask for 4 keys.
If you want to avoid any possible risk of getting charged, don't leave too much stuff visible in your room.
I guess that should work. If it doesn't, then it will be like 50 bucks per day.
If you want to avoid any possible risk of getting charged, don't leave too much stuff visible in your room.
I guess that should work. If it doesn't, then it will be like 50 bucks per day.
Jan 27th, 2003, 08:02 AM
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Don't four people use twice as much water and twice as many towels as two people? It's kind of hard to measure "wear and tear" on a room, but it seems logical to me that a hotel would charge more for four than two. Of course they don't charge twice as much, but usually a small extra fee per person over two. Seems logical to me, not a "rip-off".
Out of curiosity, what would you suggest the break-off point should be? If they don't charge any more for four than they do for two, what about if you want to put 8 people in the room? Should it still be the same price? How about squeezing in 16?
Out of curiosity, what would you suggest the break-off point should be? If they don't charge any more for four than they do for two, what about if you want to put 8 people in the room? Should it still be the same price? How about squeezing in 16?
Jan 27th, 2003, 08:22 AM
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If you tell them there's two and there is four, you are lying. I'm all for getting a good deal, but I would not be dishonest. No sermon intended but since you asked, honesty is more important than a few bucks. Four divided into $100.00 is only $25.00. Not a bad deal for intergity.
Jan 27th, 2003, 08:18 PM
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Give me a break CD; you must have been the kid in school who would remind the teacher that she forgot to assign homework. I feel anyone is foolish to pay these extra per person charges. These charges are nothing more than a way for hotels to gouge consumers. If a hotel has two-double beds and you say you have two people there is no harm. The extra cost to the hotel is close to nothing, as they are required to change all towels and linens for security reasons after the room changes guests anyway. In fact the hotel should be happy you are bringing more people into their establishment, as you will likely incur greater bills at their restaurants and what not.
Jan 27th, 2003, 09:10 PM
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I guess I must have been one of those priggy school kids too. I think it is dishonest/tacky to squeeze in more people than you are paying for. The extra person fee is usually very small so sharing is still a bargain.
(If you were to try that at a hotel in Europe not only would they charge you extra, you might be charged/fined for "stealing services". I've seen it happen.)
(If you were to try that at a hotel in Europe not only would they charge you extra, you might be charged/fined for "stealing services". I've seen it happen.)
Jan 27th, 2003, 09:26 PM
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Reminds me of a friend from high school - she had an argument with a waitress because she wanted to share her "all you can eat salad bar" order with a friend.
She couldn't grasp the concept.
Kind of like people who argue that they should be able to ride the streetcar for free because it's headed in that direction anyway, whether they're on board or not.
She couldn't grasp the concept.
Kind of like people who argue that they should be able to ride the streetcar for free because it's headed in that direction anyway, whether they're on board or not.
Jan 28th, 2003, 03:45 AM
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Bri wrote: "The extra cost to the hotel is close to nothing"
Close to nothing? How close? And you conveniently forgot extra soap, shampoo, whatever amenities are placed in the room, extra hot water, longer time for maid to clean, extra pool towels, ...so now how close to "nothing" are we?
And by the way, don't try this at Mandalay Bay...you cannot get into the pool area unless all four of you have a room key. And it's more than $25 per person...
Close to nothing? How close? And you conveniently forgot extra soap, shampoo, whatever amenities are placed in the room, extra hot water, longer time for maid to clean, extra pool towels, ...so now how close to "nothing" are we?
And by the way, don't try this at Mandalay Bay...you cannot get into the pool area unless all four of you have a room key. And it's more than $25 per person...
Jan 28th, 2003, 03:51 AM
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I just did a fast search on several sites - both specific to higher price hotels (Hilton), cheap (Motel 6) and 2 sites that offer many different hotels. The difference in price with same bedding for 2 versus 4 people was not great at any site (Do not know what city you are visiting, so I used Boston since I know the area).
Hilton, although over your price limit, charged $239 for 2 people and $259 for 4 people. Motel 6 was $69 and $73 dollars. Similar price differences on other sites.
While I love to save money more than anyone, this seems like a relatively small price difference for honesty. Again, you have to decide for yourself - I am guessing it would not be too tough to get away with it. But is that the only criteria for whether or not you do something - whether or not you will get caught?
Hilton, although over your price limit, charged $239 for 2 people and $259 for 4 people. Motel 6 was $69 and $73 dollars. Similar price differences on other sites.
While I love to save money more than anyone, this seems like a relatively small price difference for honesty. Again, you have to decide for yourself - I am guessing it would not be too tough to get away with it. But is that the only criteria for whether or not you do something - whether or not you will get caught?
Jan 28th, 2003, 04:46 AM
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lwoodward, have you thought about the chance you are taking in even getting a room with two beds? Double occupancy can mean any bed arrangement--two doubles, 1 queen, 1 king. There is no guarantee of the type you'll receive. Any request at booking is a preference only--you take what is available on arrival. If your arrival is late in the day...you take what's left. It's a risk. If you can't afford the extra per person charge, why don't you just bid for two rooms on Priceline instead of chancing arriving in a hotel room with 4 people and only one bed?
Obviously it DOES cost the hotel more to double the number of occupants per room, as per Joan and Patrick's posts, and the extra wear and tear is considerable when space that was intended for two, is now occupied by 4.
bri...gouging? Comments like that make my blood boil. The entire industry is struggling to make ends meet in this rotten economy. Costs have been cut to the bone and below. Staff cuts at all levels have been drastic, and those that remain are forced to pick up the extra load. Please don't try to justify this as an acceptable practice because you are being "gouged" anyway. Further...I don't know where you stay, but towels are changed daily in all cases unless you request otherwise, and in many cases, twice a day. Glassware is changed daily, soaps replenished, shampoos etc as needed. A room that has 4 in it as opposed to two is more difficult to clean and the housekeeper will spend more time at it. It's simply more expensive to double the load any way you look at it, and the extra cost per person per room isn't all that great.
Obviously it DOES cost the hotel more to double the number of occupants per room, as per Joan and Patrick's posts, and the extra wear and tear is considerable when space that was intended for two, is now occupied by 4.
bri...gouging? Comments like that make my blood boil. The entire industry is struggling to make ends meet in this rotten economy. Costs have been cut to the bone and below. Staff cuts at all levels have been drastic, and those that remain are forced to pick up the extra load. Please don't try to justify this as an acceptable practice because you are being "gouged" anyway. Further...I don't know where you stay, but towels are changed daily in all cases unless you request otherwise, and in many cases, twice a day. Glassware is changed daily, soaps replenished, shampoos etc as needed. A room that has 4 in it as opposed to two is more difficult to clean and the housekeeper will spend more time at it. It's simply more expensive to double the load any way you look at it, and the extra cost per person per room isn't all that great.
Jan 28th, 2003, 05:18 AM
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Wow, to follow the logic of some people, this opens lots of ways to save money. Let's see, when we go to the movies, I think we should pay for two people and sneak the other two in the back way without paying. After all if the theatre isn't full it isn't costing them anything for those extra two, they're showing the movie anyway and it doesn't cost them anything for the extra two people. Is this what you people would do? Same thing with sporting events. And while we're at it, we should be able to sneak two people in for free when we go to Disney World. Disney charging for four who really aren't taking up any more room than two is just a way to gouge the tourists!! They're running those things anyway and it won't cost them any more for two extra people!!
Hey, you guys are clever. I can think of ways to save all kinds of money using your theories!!
While we're at it, let's all lie about our ages and get either kids' prices or senior citizen rates since the price you pay really doesn't cost them any more!! Charging full price for some people must just be another way they're trying to rip off the consumer.
I shutter to think what all people feel comfortable making up lies for, just to save a few bucks.
Hey, you guys are clever. I can think of ways to save all kinds of money using your theories!!
While we're at it, let's all lie about our ages and get either kids' prices or senior citizen rates since the price you pay really doesn't cost them any more!! Charging full price for some people must just be another way they're trying to rip off the consumer.
I shutter to think what all people feel comfortable making up lies for, just to save a few bucks.
Jan 28th, 2003, 05:30 AM
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On the "Iberville Suites-New Orleans" thread, there was some discussion after a guest parked her car at the nearby Winn Dixie supermarket so she could save on parking. I found this to be tacky at the very least but was surprised to hear some people defending the practice and praising her for "being a smart cookie." We all like to save money, of course, but sometimes it's just fair and ethical to pay for the extra person, pay for parking, etc.
Jan 28th, 2003, 11:28 AM
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I'm sorry to add fuel to the fire but I still contend that people must look at this from the consumer’s point of view and stop just blindly let any business gouge you consistently.
What is the business of a hotel?
A hotel sells little rooms and they charge an amount for these rooms. I'm not contending that you should be calling down to the front desk to have all your in room amenities doubled, that could be considered tacky. Just use your room that is equipped for 4 people like any other people would. And again the cost to the hotel is close to nothing. The only increased cost that has come up so far is water, so why doesn't the hotel charge an extra dollar?
Maybe the hotel should charge for the use of elevators that costs electricity, a coin operated bible? How about charging more for fat people, as they will cause more wear and tear on the mattresses? Each time you leave maybe an A/C charge that cold air is getting out. And my god all this water use, a dollar a flush I say.
There are many expenses incurred by a hotel that may vary by person to person but in the end the consumer is buying a little room the price should be flat.
What is the business of a hotel?
A hotel sells little rooms and they charge an amount for these rooms. I'm not contending that you should be calling down to the front desk to have all your in room amenities doubled, that could be considered tacky. Just use your room that is equipped for 4 people like any other people would. And again the cost to the hotel is close to nothing. The only increased cost that has come up so far is water, so why doesn't the hotel charge an extra dollar?
Maybe the hotel should charge for the use of elevators that costs electricity, a coin operated bible? How about charging more for fat people, as they will cause more wear and tear on the mattresses? Each time you leave maybe an A/C charge that cold air is getting out. And my god all this water use, a dollar a flush I say.
There are many expenses incurred by a hotel that may vary by person to person but in the end the consumer is buying a little room the price should be flat.
Jan 28th, 2003, 01:06 PM
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Faina:
You don't know what you are talking about. ALL hotels in Las Vegas charge extra for more than 2 adults, EVEN using Expedia. You didn't click to the next screeen that shows extra person charges. Almost all hotels across the country charge extra charges for more than 2 adults, EVEN when the rates are quoted per room - that asumes double occupancy. The only exception is most hotels allow 1 or 2 children Free wwhen staying with adults AND the same bedding (meaning no free rollaways); the age is what varies usually 12 and under, but sometimes up to 18.
There are many Vegas hotels, however, that charge for children, even kid friendly hotels like Tresure Island have a fee for each child staying in a room.charge for
You don't know what you are talking about. ALL hotels in Las Vegas charge extra for more than 2 adults, EVEN using Expedia. You didn't click to the next screeen that shows extra person charges. Almost all hotels across the country charge extra charges for more than 2 adults, EVEN when the rates are quoted per room - that asumes double occupancy. The only exception is most hotels allow 1 or 2 children Free wwhen staying with adults AND the same bedding (meaning no free rollaways); the age is what varies usually 12 and under, but sometimes up to 18.
There are many Vegas hotels, however, that charge for children, even kid friendly hotels like Tresure Island have a fee for each child staying in a room.charge for
