Travel in Chile- Itinerary advice please
Feb 10th, 2016, 02:24 PM
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Travel in Chile- Itinerary advice please
My husband and I will be in Chile the last 2 weeks in December. The itinerary I have so far is as follows:
Arrive Santiago 12/19 and drive to Valparaiso - 2 full days not including the day we arrive because that will be late already.
Fly to Calama 12/22, depart 12/27
Fly to Puerto Monte arrive 12/27 ( a full day of flying as we have to go through Santiago) and drive to Chiloe
Depart 12/31 for Santiago
Leave for home 1/1
Does this itinerary make sense. Am I spending too much/too little time in any one place given the time I have - it really only 13 days on the ground including the day I arrive.
Next question: Does anyone have hiking guides they recommend in the Atacama Desert - just day hikes. Any hotels anyone can recommend in any of the places we are going to be ( Atacama, Castro, Valparaiso, Santiago). A/C in the desert for me is a necessity.
Any input on what I am leaving out please advise. We did not choose to go to Patagonia as we spent some time there on the Argentine side.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Arrive Santiago 12/19 and drive to Valparaiso - 2 full days not including the day we arrive because that will be late already.
Fly to Calama 12/22, depart 12/27
Fly to Puerto Monte arrive 12/27 ( a full day of flying as we have to go through Santiago) and drive to Chiloe
Depart 12/31 for Santiago
Leave for home 1/1
Does this itinerary make sense. Am I spending too much/too little time in any one place given the time I have - it really only 13 days on the ground including the day I arrive.
Next question: Does anyone have hiking guides they recommend in the Atacama Desert - just day hikes. Any hotels anyone can recommend in any of the places we are going to be ( Atacama, Castro, Valparaiso, Santiago). A/C in the desert for me is a necessity.
Any input on what I am leaving out please advise. We did not choose to go to Patagonia as we spent some time there on the Argentine side.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Feb 11th, 2016, 12:15 PM
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As an add on, I just realized that the weather in Chiloe in December is not terrific, so what to replace that with? We like outdoor activities - biking in the wind district? Or north of Santiago for some hiking? Are there any easily reachable islands like Chiloe with better weather? Thanks for your help.
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We have been 4 times in Chile and have in programmation at least 4 mores travels there.
I find that Santiago is not enough present in your itinerary.
I will keep it for basis at the beginning and Valparaiso in a day-excursion basis.
There is a lot to see in Santiago(museums, church, houses,...).
Hotel Cumbres Lastarria could be a good base : nice location, lot of restaurants juts next door and an excellent gelateria, Emporio la Rosa, swimming pool.
We had a junior suite there and it was perfect.Ask a room on the patio.Altiplanico Bella artes in the same neighborough or Hotel Orly a boutique hotel a little farer are also good options but rooms are smaller.
Second, as you plan 5-6 days in Atacama, it would be in my opinion necessary to acclimate : Santiago is not far from Maipo Canjon with some nice hikes...
http://en.intotheandes.com/
or www.natexplora.cl and ask for Nicolas as a guide and you can do some hikes to prepare Atacama.
Aguas Ramon park has also some nice hike with denivelation to prepare. It's "in the city" and public transport is an option to go at Aguas ramon.
For Maipo, a car is necessary.
I find that Santiago is not enough present in your itinerary.
I will keep it for basis at the beginning and Valparaiso in a day-excursion basis.
There is a lot to see in Santiago(museums, church, houses,...).
Hotel Cumbres Lastarria could be a good base : nice location, lot of restaurants juts next door and an excellent gelateria, Emporio la Rosa, swimming pool.
We had a junior suite there and it was perfect.Ask a room on the patio.Altiplanico Bella artes in the same neighborough or Hotel Orly a boutique hotel a little farer are also good options but rooms are smaller.
Second, as you plan 5-6 days in Atacama, it would be in my opinion necessary to acclimate : Santiago is not far from Maipo Canjon with some nice hikes...
http://en.intotheandes.com/
or www.natexplora.cl and ask for Nicolas as a guide and you can do some hikes to prepare Atacama.
Aguas Ramon park has also some nice hike with denivelation to prepare. It's "in the city" and public transport is an option to go at Aguas ramon.
For Maipo, a car is necessary.
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In Atacama, our hotel was Altiplanico, good location, 10 mn walk from "downtown", swimming pool. Try to get a room with 2 showers, one inside and one "under the stars"...
The restaurant is not that bad but italian oriented 5 days a week with 2 times/week more chilean and so the full plan is not necessary...
Breakfast, OK and on evening or the menu is good and Altiplanico or restuarant in the town : Baltiance, Sumapuriwa are terrific( we got advice by our guide) and Bandi y desertos not bad.
The gelateria "babalu heladeria" is a must.
For excursion AVOID the tour operator of town : turist trap.
We organize from France with Zorro Andino :
[email protected]
Juan Andres is terrific. He oragoisze us a programm on 3 days with hikes and notably a cerro at 4980 m...
There are some excursions you can do by yourselves : Misacnti/Miniques, Chaxas, Valley of Queres in Toconao, but also Valle de la luna or valle dela muerte.
For Tatio Geyser we organise with him for the Geysers but more then a hike there with a lot opf wildlife.
He had a facebook and instagram site and we are the Monpetit, at the top of the world...
He knows very well the region and adapt the programm to your physical aptitude.
Salar de Tara can be done by yourselves if you have a real good 4x4 wheel drive.
The restaurant is not that bad but italian oriented 5 days a week with 2 times/week more chilean and so the full plan is not necessary...
Breakfast, OK and on evening or the menu is good and Altiplanico or restuarant in the town : Baltiance, Sumapuriwa are terrific( we got advice by our guide) and Bandi y desertos not bad.
The gelateria "babalu heladeria" is a must.
For excursion AVOID the tour operator of town : turist trap.
We organize from France with Zorro Andino :
[email protected]
Juan Andres is terrific. He oragoisze us a programm on 3 days with hikes and notably a cerro at 4980 m...
There are some excursions you can do by yourselves : Misacnti/Miniques, Chaxas, Valley of Queres in Toconao, but also Valle de la luna or valle dela muerte.
For Tatio Geyser we organise with him for the Geysers but more then a hike there with a lot opf wildlife.
He had a facebook and instagram site and we are the Monpetit, at the top of the world...
He knows very well the region and adapt the programm to your physical aptitude.
Salar de Tara can be done by yourselves if you have a real good 4x4 wheel drive.
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Finally to Puerto Montt we have found Chiloe very overrated...but Juan Andres said to us there are a lot of hikes to do in the nacional park...but we miss them...
In the Lake regionwe have do a lot of hike in Parque Petrohue while lodging at Petrohue lodge and in the region(parque anderce , valley of Chimayo).
In Puerto Varas Casa Molino is a good boutique hotel on Llanquihuez lake.
Juan Andres can give you advice on hiking in Chiloe and he knows adress of lodge there...
Erik
In the Lake regionwe have do a lot of hike in Parque Petrohue while lodging at Petrohue lodge and in the region(parque anderce , valley of Chimayo).
In Puerto Varas Casa Molino is a good boutique hotel on Llanquihuez lake.
Juan Andres can give you advice on hiking in Chiloe and he knows adress of lodge there...
Erik
Feb 18th, 2016, 09:08 AM
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Hi! I live in Santiago, and I agree with Erik, there are some great things to do in Santiago, and Cajon del Maipo is especially nice. I have heard that Chiloe is worth it and is very beautiful too, but if you're looking for an alternative I have been to Pucon and absolutely loved it, it's just a small town so you would only need two full days or so and the weather in December would be fine.
In Santiago, you could maybe stay one night when you arrive and do a free walking tour of the city or head to Cajon del Maipo for the day. I wrote a blog post about what you can do there if you're interested: http://blog.keteka.com/cajon-del-maipo
In Valparaiso I would also recommend the free walking tour (you can easily find this on Google). When you're there, check out Viña del Mar and Reñaca just up the coast a short distance if you can, they are also nice places with great beaches (Valpo doesn't really have a beach). You can get to Viña on the metro from Valpo too if you don't want to drive.
For Atacama you can find some great tours here if you're looking for activities: https://www.keteka.com/country/chile/atacama/
You can do awesome stuff in the desert from sand boarding to stargazing. Long day hikes in that area are not that common because of the altitude, so horse riding tours are more typical. Either way I'm sure you will have a great time there!
Hope this helps!
Sapphire
In Santiago, you could maybe stay one night when you arrive and do a free walking tour of the city or head to Cajon del Maipo for the day. I wrote a blog post about what you can do there if you're interested: http://blog.keteka.com/cajon-del-maipo
In Valparaiso I would also recommend the free walking tour (you can easily find this on Google). When you're there, check out Viña del Mar and Reñaca just up the coast a short distance if you can, they are also nice places with great beaches (Valpo doesn't really have a beach). You can get to Viña on the metro from Valpo too if you don't want to drive.
For Atacama you can find some great tours here if you're looking for activities: https://www.keteka.com/country/chile/atacama/
You can do awesome stuff in the desert from sand boarding to stargazing. Long day hikes in that area are not that common because of the altitude, so horse riding tours are more typical. Either way I'm sure you will have a great time there!
Hope this helps!
Sapphire
Feb 20th, 2016, 03:53 AM
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You are askin about the weather for the end of your sejour...
If it is your first time in Chile, a programm could be :
- 3 to 4 days in Santiago with one day in Valparaiso on a day basis and some days to hike(prepare Atacama..).
Hotel : Cumbres Lastarria or Altiplanico Bellas artes or
Hotel Orly
- flight Santiago/Calama and drive to San Pedro de Atacama, with Miscanti/miniques/Socaire/Chaxas/Valley of Quers by yourselves , then 3 days with a guide to explore in security some high trek( Zorro Andino excurciones) and a last day alone in Salar de Tara.
Hotel : Altiplanico San Pedro de Atacama/
- you can then have a airplane transfert on the same day Calama/Santiago/Easter island and 3-4 dyas here : there are a lot of hike there, easier than Atacama but it's another charm..You will be sure to have a good weather.We have been 3 yeras there and will be back in 2017. Last timer we have done almost all by feet..You need a car to the diner but taxi are not expansive.
Hotel : Altiplanico rapa Nui.
Guide : tito Atan, www.titorapanuitour.cl for some special hikes and day or half day on the sea.
If Chiloe or Lake's region continue to have your preference ask Zorro Andino for programm in Chiloe...
In teh lakes we know Petrohue/Puerto varas but not Pucon as it's our programm in 2017 before eatser island.
Maria Abud in the lakes is very good guide :
[email protected]
If you reserve on the 3 Altiplanicos(Belles artes, San Pedro, Easter island) there is a special discount, normally...
Erik
If it is your first time in Chile, a programm could be :
- 3 to 4 days in Santiago with one day in Valparaiso on a day basis and some days to hike(prepare Atacama..).
Hotel : Cumbres Lastarria or Altiplanico Bellas artes or
Hotel Orly
- flight Santiago/Calama and drive to San Pedro de Atacama, with Miscanti/miniques/Socaire/Chaxas/Valley of Quers by yourselves , then 3 days with a guide to explore in security some high trek( Zorro Andino excurciones) and a last day alone in Salar de Tara.
Hotel : Altiplanico San Pedro de Atacama/
- you can then have a airplane transfert on the same day Calama/Santiago/Easter island and 3-4 dyas here : there are a lot of hike there, easier than Atacama but it's another charm..You will be sure to have a good weather.We have been 3 yeras there and will be back in 2017. Last timer we have done almost all by feet..You need a car to the diner but taxi are not expansive.
Hotel : Altiplanico rapa Nui.
Guide : tito Atan, www.titorapanuitour.cl for some special hikes and day or half day on the sea.
If Chiloe or Lake's region continue to have your preference ask Zorro Andino for programm in Chiloe...
In teh lakes we know Petrohue/Puerto varas but not Pucon as it's our programm in 2017 before eatser island.
Maria Abud in the lakes is very good guide :
[email protected]
If you reserve on the 3 Altiplanicos(Belles artes, San Pedro, Easter island) there is a special discount, normally...
Erik
Mar 15th, 2016, 09:18 AM
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Thank you monpetit and sapphiresam for your help. This will be our second trip to Chile. We have spent a little time in Santiago but that was a long time ago. I thought that Valparaiso and Vina del Mar were worth visiting for a few days - would this be better as a day trip?
If we did that, we could then stay in Santiago for a night or two and do a day trip of hiking/wine district while there. But only if it's not worth staying in Valparaiso.
We already were in Patagonia and the Lake District and Pucon and thought that Chiloe sounded really interesting. I will contact Zorro for advice here. Any other advice for Chiloe? How many days?
Again, thanks so much for your help!
If we did that, we could then stay in Santiago for a night or two and do a day trip of hiking/wine district while there. But only if it's not worth staying in Valparaiso.
We already were in Patagonia and the Lake District and Pucon and thought that Chiloe sounded really interesting. I will contact Zorro for advice here. Any other advice for Chiloe? How many days?
Again, thanks so much for your help!
Mar 15th, 2016, 02:02 PM
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I loved Valparaiso! I didn't love Santiago. We spent a few days in Chiloe and it was interesting. Didn't do any hiking there so can't address that. You can scroll thru our TR and see what we did in Valpo and Chiloe.
http://www.fodors.com/community/sout...-chile-arg.cfm
http://www.fodors.com/community/sout...-chile-arg.cfm
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You have two options :
- or lodging in Valparaiso to visit the city and Vina del Mar, and there is some hiking options in the region(La Campana park++, but also some others...).There is a book on the hikes and trek in Santiago and around which describes all of these..
- or lodging in Santiago, day trip to Valparaiso and hiking in Maipo and Aguas Ramon...
Important in your projest is to prepare you to atacama...So hiking at least twice before arriving in Atacama is essential...
For Chiloe we have been there 2 days one night in our first trip...
We saw the pinguineria(+++°, Castro(+++° and Delcahue, which was disppointing for us..The churches are nice but we did'nt like the turists there who try to "find thereselves" as we have a lot listened...Too much "babacools " as we said in France...
Now since that we have read a lot of chilean writers and spoke with our guides.
It seems that hiking the natural reserve and to drive out of the turist center is a must and we project that for a future travel...
It has to be organised as lodging near or in the park is difficult but Juan ferandez of Zorro Andinos said us that flora/fauna and the hikes thereselves worth the difficulties.
Orther guides said to us to go far south to get the real chiloe's spirit far all those "searching for themselves...).
Chili has a nice guide site to find a good one and by region..
www.trekkingchile.com/guias/registrados
There is a universitary branch and so they know a lot.
In 2-3 weels I will do a trip report on our recent sejour...(3 days in maipo/6 in Atacama/2 in Antofagasta/3 in santiago).
Erik
- or lodging in Valparaiso to visit the city and Vina del Mar, and there is some hiking options in the region(La Campana park++, but also some others...).There is a book on the hikes and trek in Santiago and around which describes all of these..
- or lodging in Santiago, day trip to Valparaiso and hiking in Maipo and Aguas Ramon...
Important in your projest is to prepare you to atacama...So hiking at least twice before arriving in Atacama is essential...
For Chiloe we have been there 2 days one night in our first trip...
We saw the pinguineria(+++°, Castro(+++° and Delcahue, which was disppointing for us..The churches are nice but we did'nt like the turists there who try to "find thereselves" as we have a lot listened...Too much "babacools " as we said in France...
Now since that we have read a lot of chilean writers and spoke with our guides.
It seems that hiking the natural reserve and to drive out of the turist center is a must and we project that for a future travel...
It has to be organised as lodging near or in the park is difficult but Juan ferandez of Zorro Andinos said us that flora/fauna and the hikes thereselves worth the difficulties.
Orther guides said to us to go far south to get the real chiloe's spirit far all those "searching for themselves...).
Chili has a nice guide site to find a good one and by region..
www.trekkingchile.com/guias/registrados
There is a universitary branch and so they know a lot.
In 2-3 weels I will do a trip report on our recent sejour...(3 days in maipo/6 in Atacama/2 in Antofagasta/3 in santiago).
Erik
Mar 16th, 2016, 05:04 AM
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The guide : TREKKING, Alrededores de Santiago, Columbia editor,
by Maria Jesus Ossandon and Juan Pablo Gardenweg .
It's in spanish BUT the maps are precise and it's not difficulty to understand.
For each they give how to join the headtrail(even the public transpotation) and the description of the trail,duration(and it's an estimation for good hikers), lenght and denivelation.
Erik
by Maria Jesus Ossandon and Juan Pablo Gardenweg .
It's in spanish BUT the maps are precise and it's not difficulty to understand.
For each they give how to join the headtrail(even the public transpotation) and the description of the trail,duration(and it's an estimation for good hikers), lenght and denivelation.
Erik
Mar 16th, 2016, 07:08 AM
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Thank you so much for your input monpetit and yestravel. I read your travel report yes travel - fantastic reporting! Made me so hungry. It seems that if we spend 2 or 3 nights in Chiloe that would be sufficient. Which leaves me with an extra day or two to play with. Our trip so far is as follows:
Dec 19-22 Valparaiso
Dec 22-27 Atacama Desert
Dec 27-30 Chiloe
Dec 30- Jan 1 ? We leave on Jan 1 for the US and thinking of basing ourselves in Santiago but taking 2 day trips or half day trips as we'll be getting there afternoon of Dec 30 and leaving the afternoon of Jan 1. Not really interested in spending any time in Santiago. Should we increase our stay in any of the other places by a day? Or maybe go to Colchagua Valley for a couple of nights and check out the wine district, maybe a one day bike tour? Any thoughts on this?
Thanks again for your help.
Dec 19-22 Valparaiso
Dec 22-27 Atacama Desert
Dec 27-30 Chiloe
Dec 30- Jan 1 ? We leave on Jan 1 for the US and thinking of basing ourselves in Santiago but taking 2 day trips or half day trips as we'll be getting there afternoon of Dec 30 and leaving the afternoon of Jan 1. Not really interested in spending any time in Santiago. Should we increase our stay in any of the other places by a day? Or maybe go to Colchagua Valley for a couple of nights and check out the wine district, maybe a one day bike tour? Any thoughts on this?
Thanks again for your help.
Mar 16th, 2016, 07:23 AM
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You can easily spend a night in Santa Cruz, or nearby, in the Colchagua valley but it is best with your own transport. You can drive south on route 5, turning off at San Fernando for Santa Cruz and return via Pichilemu on the coast. There are some nice places to lunch there. Then return to Santiago via Litueche and Melipilla via route 78.
There are some obligatory holidays in Chile. On those days everything must close by law. Exceptions are petrol stations, restaurants (optional), owner run shops, tourist activities (optional), cinemas. January first is one of them. Since that is the day you are leaving, double check that you have your transport to the airport reserved.
There are some obligatory holidays in Chile. On those days everything must close by law. Exceptions are petrol stations, restaurants (optional), owner run shops, tourist activities (optional), cinemas. January first is one of them. Since that is the day you are leaving, double check that you have your transport to the airport reserved.
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Definitively an extraday in Atacama...
Beware than from Valparaiso to Atacama it will take at least one half day and frequently one day...(time to drive to Airport, then the flight, check the luggage, then the rental car...).
So the 22nd is an almost "off day" for Atacama and idem on departure...
Erik
Beware than from Valparaiso to Atacama it will take at least one half day and frequently one day...(time to drive to Airport, then the flight, check the luggage, then the rental car...).
So the 22nd is an almost "off day" for Atacama and idem on departure...
Erik
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Thanks Erik for the heads up on travel. I thought it would be a dead day. From what I heard, most of my travel days will probably be taken up by - travel. I haven't yet arranged for transport to the airport but I definitely will do that especially because of the holiday. Thanks Huentetu.
Huentetu - what is the length of the drive from the airport in santiago to Santa Cruz/Colchagua valley and back to the airport. Maybe we could do that and not stay in Santiago at all, just rent the car on the 30th and return it on the 1st to airport.
Erik, since we will have 4 full days in Atacama, I thought that would be plenty to do some of the treks.
Thanks again.
Huentetu - what is the length of the drive from the airport in santiago to Santa Cruz/Colchagua valley and back to the airport. Maybe we could do that and not stay in Santiago at all, just rent the car on the 30th and return it on the 1st to airport.
Erik, since we will have 4 full days in Atacama, I thought that would be plenty to do some of the treks.
Thanks again.
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It should take about 3 hours from the airport to Santa Cruz. It is quite easy, once explained, to get onto the 5 Sur, highway south.
Recently I stayed in Casa de Campo hotel just outside Santa Cruz and loved it. We had a car but took a taxi into the town for dinner so no one had to be designated driver. It was very reasonable, 3000 pesos, and he came back for us after dinner. There are a lot of very nice places to stay in and around Santa Cruz and some great vineyards.
Recently I stayed in Casa de Campo hotel just outside Santa Cruz and loved it. We had a car but took a taxi into the town for dinner so no one had to be designated driver. It was very reasonable, 3000 pesos, and he came back for us after dinner. There are a lot of very nice places to stay in and around Santa Cruz and some great vineyards.
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Chile packs a wealth of diverse landscapes in its narrow borders. In the north, the Atacama Desert enthralls with the world's highest geyser field and alpine salt flats dotted with flamingos. Vibrant beaches, first-rate vineyards, and bustling cities like Santiago and Valparaíso make it easy to tap into the good life in central Chile. In Patagonia, outdoor enthusiasts revel in exciting adventures, from climbing snow-capped volcanoes to trekking through the majestic Torres del Paine National Park.
To best help with your itinerary check out the link below for a TON of information from Fodors on Chile
http://www.fodors.com/world/south-america/chile
To best help with your itinerary check out the link below for a TON of information from Fodors on Chile
http://www.fodors.com/world/south-america/chile
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Just recently stayed at Verso Hotel in Valapariso. It is clean and comfortable. The bathrooms are small. You will need a car to stay here as it is not near the center. But it was walking distance to Pablo Naruda's house.
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Amana_B : the OP request more than banalities about Chile.
There were precise interrogations and we try , some people,to respond as well we can with our experiences.
In the different conversations, you could see than this is not the first trip in Chile for nycmary and so the "vibrant beaches, flamin go, vineyards,..." we know that.
I should expect more from a referent in this destination.
Erik
There were precise interrogations and we try , some people,to respond as well we can with our experiences.
In the different conversations, you could see than this is not the first trip in Chile for nycmary and so the "vibrant beaches, flamin go, vineyards,..." we know that.
I should expect more from a referent in this destination.
Erik
