pronunciation of British towns in Cornwall
Apr 16th, 2008, 11:45 AM
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pronunciation of British towns in Cornwall
So as not to sound like a stupid tourist, I would like to know the correct pronunciation of some of the towns that we'll be visiting. Can you give me the phonetic spellings of the following if they aren't pronounced as they look? Clovelly, Bude, Tintagel, Padstow, Hartland Quay, Bodmin Parkway, Barnstaple.
Thanks for your help!
Thanks for your help!
Apr 16th, 2008, 11:56 AM
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Can't help you with the pronunciation since I'm not so sure myself. There are better experts here for that. However I have a trip report that includes quite a few of the towns listed. You might want to glance through it.
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34841198
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34841198
Apr 16th, 2008, 11:57 AM
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K4 - All of these are pronounced phonetically. The reason most Americans (I presume that's where you are from) raise an eyebrow here sometimes is because they stress the wrong syllables. With all these names, and most place names, stress the first syllable, with the following exceptions (it's English so there are always exceptions):
Clovelly - 2nd syllable, ie CloVELLy
Tintagel - 2nd syllable, TinTAGel (soft g).
Enjoy the West Country.
Clovelly - 2nd syllable, ie CloVELLy
Tintagel - 2nd syllable, TinTAGel (soft g).
Enjoy the West Country.
Apr 16th, 2008, 12:55 PM
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A fun little website where you can actually hear the words spoken is: http://www.howjsay.com/
It doesn't have all the words, but a fair share of them.
It doesn't have all the words, but a fair share of them.
Apr 16th, 2008, 01:08 PM
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For what it's worth, Barnstaple isn't quite pronounced as written; it's more "baarrnstubble" (all running into each other), not than "Barn_Staple"...
Worth asking though, I still have to smile when I recall some US visitors asking for "War Sester Shire Sauce"
Worth asking though, I still have to smile when I recall some US visitors asking for "War Sester Shire Sauce"
Apr 16th, 2008, 01:44 PM
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Dukey - We do pronounce Baltimore correctly. You pronounce it with an American accent. It is the Anglicized version of a place in Ireland from where Lord Baltimore, who founded the Maryland colony, took his name. Google is my friend.
Apr 16th, 2008, 02:18 PM
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Of all the English accents, the Cornish have the closest to Americans.
Dark "l"s and "r"s, softening "t"s and "th" to "d"s, pronouncing the "r"s after vowels and having "o"s approaching "a" in sound. (When you say "hot" I hear "hat"
Bodmin is nearer to "Badmin"
St Ives is pronounced Sknives (the k is silent).
As a South-Easterner it can take a few seconds to work out if a Cornish person (with a thick accent) is or isn't American, other than the lack of big hair and white trainers, that is.
Dark "l"s and "r"s, softening "t"s and "th" to "d"s, pronouncing the "r"s after vowels and having "o"s approaching "a" in sound. (When you say "hot" I hear "hat"
Bodmin is nearer to "Badmin"
St Ives is pronounced Sknives (the k is silent).
As a South-Easterner it can take a few seconds to work out if a Cornish person (with a thick accent) is or isn't American, other than the lack of big hair and white trainers, that is.
Apr 17th, 2008, 01:02 AM
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Pronunciation doesn't really matter, so long as people can understand what you are getting at.
What can be confusing and you see it often on this forum is when Americans drop part of a place-name in London, for instance.
It's unlikely that somebody would be given directioins to Trafalgar, but if somebody asked for Liverpool Station, they might well be given directions to Euston.
It's the same with Buckingham.
What can be confusing and you see it often on this forum is when Americans drop part of a place-name in London, for instance.
It's unlikely that somebody would be given directioins to Trafalgar, but if somebody asked for Liverpool Station, they might well be given directions to Euston.
It's the same with Buckingham.
Apr 17th, 2008, 02:45 AM
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BTW, I checked some of the usual howlers, e.g. Leicester, Worcester, Cholmondeley, and Cockburn, and they all seemed to be correct, albeit with an American accent. I never thought to check Mousehole, though.
Well done, Josser.
Well done, Josser.
Apr 17th, 2008, 03:23 AM
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stfc, please get your little buns right over here and we'll all stand around and listen to you pronounce "Baltimore" correctly....but you have to do it at either Mount Vernon Square or perhaps in Highlandtown..we'll see if another Boston Tea Party ensues as a result.
(and they wonder why you guys lost the war...)
(and they wonder why you guys lost the war...)
