Need hotel near hospital in Paris ASAP!!!
Jul 2nd, 2005, 05:10 AM
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Need hotel near hospital in Paris ASAP!!!
I have a family member who had an accident in Paris and is in the hospital. We are not sure if she will have surgery there or be evacuated to the US for the surgery. (Thank God for Medjet so that we have the choice.)
I'm a little shaky at the moment since I got the call at 4:30am PST so I need some help. She is at the Central Hospital in Meux. I have no idea where that is other than she had been staying at the Radisson near the CDG. Can anyone help me locate a hotel near this hospital so I can stay there if she has the surger there? She didn't think that the Radisson wshe had been staying at was all that close and I don't intend to rent a car.
Thank you my Fodorite friends.
I'm a little shaky at the moment since I got the call at 4:30am PST so I need some help. She is at the Central Hospital in Meux. I have no idea where that is other than she had been staying at the Radisson near the CDG. Can anyone help me locate a hotel near this hospital so I can stay there if she has the surger there? She didn't think that the Radisson wshe had been staying at was all that close and I don't intend to rent a car.
Thank you my Fodorite friends.
Jul 2nd, 2005, 06:00 AM
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I think you'll find she is actually in the Centre Hospitalier des Meaux (note the "a" - Meux is in a completely different area of France) - which is about 15 miles from the airport - but in the opposite direction from Paris.
Don;t know anything about the town - but if you don;t want to drive I see two options:
Stay in a hotel in Meaux (there are only a couple listed on tripadvisor - and little info - not sure what you will find)
Stay in a large hotel near the airport and taxi back and forth (expensive - but if only for a couple of days may be less stressful - and you can get meals etc in the hotel and have less to cope with than you would in a small non-tourist town)
Don;t know anything about the town - but if you don;t want to drive I see two options:
Stay in a hotel in Meaux (there are only a couple listed on tripadvisor - and little info - not sure what you will find)
Stay in a large hotel near the airport and taxi back and forth (expensive - but if only for a couple of days may be less stressful - and you can get meals etc in the hotel and have less to cope with than you would in a small non-tourist town)
Jul 2nd, 2005, 06:05 AM
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Jul 2nd, 2005, 06:12 AM
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Well, for starters, let's get the spelling right - - its Me<b>a<</b>ux (pronounced "moe"
, so that you can find additional help.
Here is its website - - http://www.ch-meaux.fr and here is a map with address and telephone number - - http://www.ch-meaux.fr/infos/circulation.html
I have just now telephoned the hospital for you, to ask if there is an office to provide assistance to patients and their families, and I was informed that yes - - but not staffed, normally on weekends. I was assured that appropriate personnel are available for communicating the clinical needs to and from the patient.
The operator also said that the "centre ville" of Meaux (main center of town) is only 10-15 mnutes by foot.
The website http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g1...ce-Hotels.html lists five hotels; I have also telephoned the first hotel listed there for you, and they recommend Hotel Richemont, 43 Quai de la Grande Ile, Meaux, Seine et Marne, 77100 at ++ 33.1.60.25.12.10
I also telephoned there and the receptionist can speak English perfectly well. He agreed, 10 minutes walk to the hospital.
Write to me if I can help further.
Best wishes,
Rex
, so that you can find additional help.Here is its website - - http://www.ch-meaux.fr and here is a map with address and telephone number - - http://www.ch-meaux.fr/infos/circulation.html
I have just now telephoned the hospital for you, to ask if there is an office to provide assistance to patients and their families, and I was informed that yes - - but not staffed, normally on weekends. I was assured that appropriate personnel are available for communicating the clinical needs to and from the patient.
The operator also said that the "centre ville" of Meaux (main center of town) is only 10-15 mnutes by foot.
The website http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g1...ce-Hotels.html lists five hotels; I have also telephoned the first hotel listed there for you, and they recommend Hotel Richemont, 43 Quai de la Grande Ile, Meaux, Seine et Marne, 77100 at ++ 33.1.60.25.12.10
I also telephoned there and the receptionist can speak English perfectly well. He agreed, 10 minutes walk to the hospital.
Write to me if I can help further.
Best wishes,
Rex
Jul 2nd, 2005, 06:33 AM
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Rex, you were always one of my favorite posters, but calling a hospital in France for a Fodorite in need is a gesture that's off the scale. You are a great man.
wj1, all the best to your loved one.
wj1, all the best to your loved one.
Jul 2nd, 2005, 08:05 AM
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Rex, you are a true prince of princes. Your email literally brought tears to my eyes, my husband's eyes, and my mother who is the one laid up in Paris. It is still incomprehensible that you made two phone calls over there for a complete stranger. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Here is the story. My mom is 75 and knows that her traveling days are limited. She did a barge trip in France which she thought would not be very strenuous. She was right and enjoyed her trip greatly. On Friday, she was staying at an airport hotel and planning to fly home early Saturday morning when her feet got tangled up in her slippers and down she went, breaking her hip. (She broke her other hip several years ago while working at a geriatric facility as a social worker. While she was keying in her code to the locked Alzheimer's unit, a motorized laundrey cart plowed into her, knocking her down on the concrete, breaking her hip.) Needless to say, she is very depressed about the rehab. and thinks her traveling days are over. She's also in a lot of pain.
In any event, she is sufficiently stable so thatit is apparently up to her whether or not to have the surgery there and then be flown home via Medjet or be flown home to have the surgery. The family prefers her to be flown home and have the surgery here in LA, but she is concerned about the pain.
So far Medjet has been wonderful. They have it all set up from the Paris hospital and are waiting to get everything cleared through the receiving hospital. She belongs to Kaiser Permanente which is a very large HMO out here. Since it's large, there is a lot of red tape but they are working it.
At this point, she may be on her way home before I could even arrive in Paris so I may not be flying there and instead be waiting on the receiving end. The plane is a medically equipped Lear jet and there probably wouldn't be room for me anyway. They won't even be able to take her luggage with her, so I probably will be calling on all of you for ideas. But first, we'll get her home.
Thanks for all your help. I was struggling to find information on the internet but wasn't successful because of the misspelled city name. I couldn't have done it without all of your help. (This includes Rex, nytraveler, ronz as well as all the best wishes.)
There is so little I can do to pay everyone back, but I will post a "trip report" on Medjet so other Fordorites can evaluate it and decide whether they want to purchase the insurance.
Thanks again everyone.
P.S. It really is interesting to decide who to turn to for advice in a situation like this one. I do know people that are from Paris who live locally and might have helped. Instead, I turned to the Fodors family and instantaneously got the best information. This place really is a family, including all the bickering, snide remarks etc. I'm proud to be a member.
Here is the story. My mom is 75 and knows that her traveling days are limited. She did a barge trip in France which she thought would not be very strenuous. She was right and enjoyed her trip greatly. On Friday, she was staying at an airport hotel and planning to fly home early Saturday morning when her feet got tangled up in her slippers and down she went, breaking her hip. (She broke her other hip several years ago while working at a geriatric facility as a social worker. While she was keying in her code to the locked Alzheimer's unit, a motorized laundrey cart plowed into her, knocking her down on the concrete, breaking her hip.) Needless to say, she is very depressed about the rehab. and thinks her traveling days are over. She's also in a lot of pain.
In any event, she is sufficiently stable so thatit is apparently up to her whether or not to have the surgery there and then be flown home via Medjet or be flown home to have the surgery. The family prefers her to be flown home and have the surgery here in LA, but she is concerned about the pain.
So far Medjet has been wonderful. They have it all set up from the Paris hospital and are waiting to get everything cleared through the receiving hospital. She belongs to Kaiser Permanente which is a very large HMO out here. Since it's large, there is a lot of red tape but they are working it.
At this point, she may be on her way home before I could even arrive in Paris so I may not be flying there and instead be waiting on the receiving end. The plane is a medically equipped Lear jet and there probably wouldn't be room for me anyway. They won't even be able to take her luggage with her, so I probably will be calling on all of you for ideas. But first, we'll get her home.
Thanks for all your help. I was struggling to find information on the internet but wasn't successful because of the misspelled city name. I couldn't have done it without all of your help. (This includes Rex, nytraveler, ronz as well as all the best wishes.)
There is so little I can do to pay everyone back, but I will post a "trip report" on Medjet so other Fordorites can evaluate it and decide whether they want to purchase the insurance.
Thanks again everyone.
P.S. It really is interesting to decide who to turn to for advice in a situation like this one. I do know people that are from Paris who live locally and might have helped. Instead, I turned to the Fodors family and instantaneously got the best information. This place really is a family, including all the bickering, snide remarks etc. I'm proud to be a member.
Jul 2nd, 2005, 08:10 AM
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My suggestion re the luggage is to call the manager of the Radisson and have the luggage sent back to you via UPS or FedEx.
I fell and broke my foot while traveling and I was amazed at the kindness of the hotel staff. They called the owner of the drugstore across the street after hours and he brought me a wheelchair. A staff member drove me to the hospital and a couple of hotel staff checked up on me during the night, brought me ice packs, food, etc.
I'm glad your Fodors family came through - particularly Rex. Wishing you, your mom and family the best.
I fell and broke my foot while traveling and I was amazed at the kindness of the hotel staff. They called the owner of the drugstore across the street after hours and he brought me a wheelchair. A staff member drove me to the hospital and a couple of hotel staff checked up on me during the night, brought me ice packs, food, etc.
I'm glad your Fodors family came through - particularly Rex. Wishing you, your mom and family the best.
Jul 2nd, 2005, 08:32 AM
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OK, so i"m a little weepy anyway as I'm suffering from a nasty cold/sinus infexion (and feeling a bit sorry for myself on a gorgeous holiday w/e). But the posts here and the generosity of spirit from the Fodors community, and Rex's above-and-beyond help, sure has tears in my eyes! What ever did we do before cyber-space!
Hope your Mom's trip home goes smoothly wj1; it sounds like she has the kind of spirit that won't let her down, once she begins recovery from this injury.
Hope your Mom's trip home goes smoothly wj1; it sounds like she has the kind of spirit that won't let her down, once she begins recovery from this injury.
Jul 2nd, 2005, 09:47 AM
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I'm ready to scream!!!!!
Her passport, money and jewelry is locked in the Paris hospital safe and they are saying that they can't open the safe except during normal business hours on Monday. And she can't fly home without her passport. Medjet isn't giving up though. They are still working on the hospital.
Her passport, money and jewelry is locked in the Paris hospital safe and they are saying that they can't open the safe except during normal business hours on Monday. And she can't fly home without her passport. Medjet isn't giving up though. They are still working on the hospital.
Jul 2nd, 2005, 10:07 AM
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Hmmm... I was going to let well enough alone, but I'll re-post. First, the success in finding some useful information is/was plenty reward in and of itself, but still... the kind words are appreciated.
Now that the decision to treat or move is in flux for 24-48 hours, I'll venture out on thin ice, as to which would be better. I'm hoping that some adult-medical-types will weigh in, as well.
I have two answers: if it were my dad, I'm sure I would favor surgery there (assuming that open reduction and/or internal fixation is needed). Already, with 24 hours od immobilization, plus a fracture, the risk of venous thrombosis and pulmonary embolism is substantial, in a 75 year old. Anticoagulation before a 10 hour flight would seem almost imperative to me, and that will take a few days - - might as well go ahead and get the surgery done, as the pain will be much reduced as soon as the fixation is completed. Yes, good IV narcotics can handle the pain associated with the travel, pre-fixation, but that has risks too, in this age group, I would think.
By contrast, if it were my mother-in-law, I'll speculate that my wife's siblings would go absolutely crazy at the thought of not getting her home for treatment, much more rapidly. They woud not tolerate the idea of surgery for something this major, that far away.
One final note - - this might spur any travelers who are 25 years post-menopause (and especially with a history of one fracture already) to have this discussion with their doctor(s) if they are thinking about travel abroad: is their (highly likely to exist) <b>osteoporosis</b> under <u>optimum</u> medical management? When was your last DEXA? Are you on the treatment most appropriate for you And has your DEXA improved?
The risk of fracture in osteoporotic women is a reducible risk.
Best wishes for a happy ending to this story.
Now that the decision to treat or move is in flux for 24-48 hours, I'll venture out on thin ice, as to which would be better. I'm hoping that some adult-medical-types will weigh in, as well.
I have two answers: if it were my dad, I'm sure I would favor surgery there (assuming that open reduction and/or internal fixation is needed). Already, with 24 hours od immobilization, plus a fracture, the risk of venous thrombosis and pulmonary embolism is substantial, in a 75 year old. Anticoagulation before a 10 hour flight would seem almost imperative to me, and that will take a few days - - might as well go ahead and get the surgery done, as the pain will be much reduced as soon as the fixation is completed. Yes, good IV narcotics can handle the pain associated with the travel, pre-fixation, but that has risks too, in this age group, I would think.
By contrast, if it were my mother-in-law, I'll speculate that my wife's siblings would go absolutely crazy at the thought of not getting her home for treatment, much more rapidly. They woud not tolerate the idea of surgery for something this major, that far away.
One final note - - this might spur any travelers who are 25 years post-menopause (and especially with a history of one fracture already) to have this discussion with their doctor(s) if they are thinking about travel abroad: is their (highly likely to exist) <b>osteoporosis</b> under <u>optimum</u> medical management? When was your last DEXA? Are you on the treatment most appropriate for you And has your DEXA improved?
The risk of fracture in osteoporotic women is a reducible risk.
Best wishes for a happy ending to this story.
Jul 2nd, 2005, 10:33 AM
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What a mess. I'm sorry you have to deal with this awful long-distance crisis. I agree that Rex was incredibly kind and helpful with his expertise and his long-distance phone calls.
I guess you are now weighing the risk and pain of travelling back to the US for surgery against the convenience of having it all done at home near family. But I'd suggest one other factor to consider: what are the chances that you can avoid the "negatives" of dealing with Kaiser by having the work done in a foreign country? In light of the fact that your mother's health care contract is with Kaiser, I think if she can avoid having her health care subjected to Kaiser's control by having the work done in France, that would be better. Both France and the US potentially have excellent care, but if she will be somewhat outside Kaiser Permanente's clutches when she is in France, I think that would be better. Keep in mind that I have had no personal dealings with this HMO--my own health insurance is not an HMO and it's with Blue C/S--and maybe it's unfair to form an opinion based on other people's stories, but the one I heard recently was enough to make me want to avoid this HMO (or perhaps any HMO) if I possibly can.
I guess you are now weighing the risk and pain of travelling back to the US for surgery against the convenience of having it all done at home near family. But I'd suggest one other factor to consider: what are the chances that you can avoid the "negatives" of dealing with Kaiser by having the work done in a foreign country? In light of the fact that your mother's health care contract is with Kaiser, I think if she can avoid having her health care subjected to Kaiser's control by having the work done in France, that would be better. Both France and the US potentially have excellent care, but if she will be somewhat outside Kaiser Permanente's clutches when she is in France, I think that would be better. Keep in mind that I have had no personal dealings with this HMO--my own health insurance is not an HMO and it's with Blue C/S--and maybe it's unfair to form an opinion based on other people's stories, but the one I heard recently was enough to make me want to avoid this HMO (or perhaps any HMO) if I possibly can.
