Munich - Austria - Czech Republic and Italy !
Jun 28th, 2014, 12:17 PM
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Munich - Austria - Czech Republic and Italy !
Ok, I'm very lost trying to organize my trip so any help / suggestion will be very much appreciate .
We are going to be in Munich and we are looking to go to Vienna, Praha, Venice Florence and Rome.
Munich has to be our starting stop as my sister is based there and my mom is flying to there, I know Vienna and Praha are not that far, but what about Italy . Don't mind if we have to fly somewhere, we are pretty flexible about buses trains etc .
I thought about flying to rome , then train to florence and venice .
Then maybe train / bus ? To Vienna and then to Praha , to head back to Munich?
Please any help will be really appreciate .
We are considering any option if it turns to be quicker or cheaper .
Also regarding accommodation, last time I went to those cities ( +10 years) I remember as soon as we arrived to the train stations there were a lot of people offering hotels etc for a very good price and they all were very good . I know now with internet it might be different but just in case , is that still the case?
We are trying to have some flexibility and advanced booking probably won't help!
Again thanks for any help !
We are going to be in Munich and we are looking to go to Vienna, Praha, Venice Florence and Rome.
Munich has to be our starting stop as my sister is based there and my mom is flying to there, I know Vienna and Praha are not that far, but what about Italy . Don't mind if we have to fly somewhere, we are pretty flexible about buses trains etc .
I thought about flying to rome , then train to florence and venice .
Then maybe train / bus ? To Vienna and then to Praha , to head back to Munich?
Please any help will be really appreciate .
We are considering any option if it turns to be quicker or cheaper .
Also regarding accommodation, last time I went to those cities ( +10 years) I remember as soon as we arrived to the train stations there were a lot of people offering hotels etc for a very good price and they all were very good . I know now with internet it might be different but just in case , is that still the case?
We are trying to have some flexibility and advanced booking probably won't help!
Again thanks for any help !
Jun 28th, 2014, 12:28 PM
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>>We are going to be in Munich and we are looking to go to Vienna, Praha, Venice Florence and Rome.<<
You left off a couple of very important details - How many days? and When?
Also - what's your budget for accommodations?
You left off a couple of very important details - How many days? and When?
Also - what's your budget for accommodations?
Jun 28th, 2014, 12:54 PM
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15 days is a bit hurried for all those places plus traveling in between them.
Trains are much better than buses, which run skeletal routes at inconvenient times and cater to backpacking younger folk - you could take an overnight train from Vienna or Munich to Forence or Rome or Venice - save time even over flying and the cost of a night in a hotel to boot.
For lots of neat stuff on European trains check these IMO superb sites - www.seat61.com; www.budgeturopetravel.com and www.ricksteves.com. If doing that all by train check out the Eurail Select Saver Pass valid in Czech Republic, Austria, Germany and Italy - it's a first-class pass if you're over 25 and there are significant benefits to first class - if on the trip of a lifetime don't pinch pennies IMO - bigger seats, many more empty seats - easier to stow luggage, etc. - a much more relaxed ride (and second class is no cattle car either...)
Trains are much better than buses, which run skeletal routes at inconvenient times and cater to backpacking younger folk - you could take an overnight train from Vienna or Munich to Forence or Rome or Venice - save time even over flying and the cost of a night in a hotel to boot.
For lots of neat stuff on European trains check these IMO superb sites - www.seat61.com; www.budgeturopetravel.com and www.ricksteves.com. If doing that all by train check out the Eurail Select Saver Pass valid in Czech Republic, Austria, Germany and Italy - it's a first-class pass if you're over 25 and there are significant benefits to first class - if on the trip of a lifetime don't pinch pennies IMO - bigger seats, many more empty seats - easier to stow luggage, etc. - a much more relaxed ride (and second class is no cattle car either...)
Jun 28th, 2014, 01:07 PM
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Will be staying in Munich so we have to start from there . Not sure overnight trains are really an option as I'm
Sure my mom won't be to happy. Any other ideas of what's the most convenient route ?
Sure my mom won't be to happy. Any other ideas of what's the most convenient route ?
Jun 28th, 2014, 06:27 PM
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You don't have time for flexibility. You want to visit 6 cities in 15 days and you have travel time between the cities. That gives you about 2 days per location. You'll definitely need to book ahead so you don't waste time trying to find a hotel that you can afford.
Why not stay with Munich, Prague, and Vienna and really see and enjoy those cities. You'll have time to see the sights and time to relax. E100 per night (I assume per person) is not a huge budget so you'll need to find accommodations on the inexpensive side so you have transportation, food, and sightseeing money.
Why not stay with Munich, Prague, and Vienna and really see and enjoy those cities. You'll have time to see the sights and time to relax. E100 per night (I assume per person) is not a huge budget so you'll need to find accommodations on the inexpensive side so you have transportation, food, and sightseeing money.
Jun 28th, 2014, 11:54 PM
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Hi Adrianne, we will be staying in Munich , so from there we want to travel to those cities . We are thinking about 15 days but that's why we want flexibility . In case we want to stay more . In my experience that budget will give us a pretty decent (average price ) accommodation .
Any help regarding the route will be appreciate !
Thanks
Any help regarding the route will be appreciate !
Thanks
Jun 29th, 2014, 01:54 AM
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Are you saying that you want to base yourselves in Munich and do day trips to the other locations or do overnights and return to Munich? Have you looked at the time to go from Munich to the other cities?
Is the E100 for hotel only or for everything? You stated your budget, not a hotel budget, was E100.
Can you be more specific with your questions/responses.
Is the E100 for hotel only or for everything? You stated your budget, not a hotel budget, was E100.
Can you be more specific with your questions/responses.
Jun 29th, 2014, 02:04 AM
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Oh, I see you were responding to Janis's request for hotel budget. That could be a bit low for a triple, especially during the height of the tourist season and for rooms at the last minute.
Here's my confusion on your itinerary. Your first post stated that you were starting in Munich. Your second post stated that you are staying in Munich. Two different things. If you're starting your itinerary in Munich I do think you're going to too many places. If you're basing yourselves in Munich (staying in Munich) then the itinerary is impossible because you'll spend most of your time getting to and from Munich.
Here's my confusion on your itinerary. Your first post stated that you were starting in Munich. Your second post stated that you are staying in Munich. Two different things. If you're starting your itinerary in Munich I do think you're going to too many places. If you're basing yourselves in Munich (staying in Munich) then the itinerary is impossible because you'll spend most of your time getting to and from Munich.
Jun 29th, 2014, 02:45 AM
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Yes i am starting in Munich but we have days to spend there before and after .
You are probably right on the last minutes rooms , my experience was ten years ago, hence I asked for guidance
Booking in advance a budget of 300 per night seems pretty comfortable for what we are looking for .
You are probably right on the last minutes rooms , my experience was ten years ago, hence I asked for guidance
Booking in advance a budget of 300 per night seems pretty comfortable for what we are looking for .
Jun 29th, 2014, 02:48 AM
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I thought about This
Munich - prague ( bus or train)
Prague - Vienna (bus or train)
Vienna - rome (flying)
Rome - Florence (train)
Florence - Venice ( train)
Venice Munich ( flying)
The budget I mention is only for hotel
Room not meals or anything included .
Munich - prague ( bus or train)
Prague - Vienna (bus or train)
Vienna - rome (flying)
Rome - Florence (train)
Florence - Venice ( train)
Venice Munich ( flying)
The budget I mention is only for hotel
Room not meals or anything included .
Jun 29th, 2014, 04:23 AM
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Are you considering bus travel because you think it would be cheaper, faster, more convenient, what?
You can fly N/S between Vienna-Rome on several airlines including Austrian, AirBerlin, FlyNiki; between Venice and Munich on AirDolomiti <B>BUT</B> you really need to book those segments as early as possible to get the best fares.
You can fly N/S between Vienna-Rome on several airlines including Austrian, AirBerlin, FlyNiki; between Venice and Munich on AirDolomiti <B>BUT</B> you really need to book those segments as early as possible to get the best fares.
Jun 29th, 2014, 05:32 AM
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So now it's E300 per night for hotel rooms? Not E100 per night. And you're going to book hotels in advance. Please clarify this.
15 days for 5 cities which will give you 2.5 days in each city. Will this be enough time in each place?
I would take trains rather than buses as they are much more comfortable.
15 days for 5 cities which will give you 2.5 days in each city. Will this be enough time in each place?
I would take trains rather than buses as they are much more comfortable.
Jun 29th, 2014, 06:53 AM
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Munich - prague ( bus or train)>
bus is quicker and faster I believe on this route - if you had a railpass valid in both countries it would be valid on that bus too I believe since I think it is run by the German Railways.
bus is quicker and faster I believe on this route - if you had a railpass valid in both countries it would be valid on that bus too I believe since I think it is run by the German Railways.
Jun 29th, 2014, 08:35 AM
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Adrienne earlier in the conversation you asked me if the budget was per person, (€100) and I replied yes . So yes it's per person. And I' still don't know whether to book in advance or not . I mean in the places with plane tickets yes but I'm still thinking about the places we Tavel by train .
Dukey1 I'm open to bus or trains, depending I mean if it's cheaper biut it takes iis an extra 3 hours well def not. But if we can save some money and travel not more than 1,5 hours more then we are fine .
Yes u checked the prices already and prices are pretty cheap def booking soon.
Thanks Palenq def will check that. I googled a little bit and seems you are right.
Dukey1 I'm open to bus or trains, depending I mean if it's cheaper biut it takes iis an extra 3 hours well def not. But if we can save some money and travel not more than 1,5 hours more then we are fine .
Yes u checked the prices already and prices are pretty cheap def booking soon.
Thanks Palenq def will check that. I googled a little bit and seems you are right.
Jun 29th, 2014, 08:55 AM
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>> Munich - prague ( bus or train)
Prague - Vienna (bus or train)
Vienna - rome (flying)
Rome - Florence (train)
Florence - Venice ( train)
Venice Munich ( flying)
This is 6 segments of traveling - between checking out from hotel, getting to the train station or airport, traveling, getting at the destination, checking into the new hotel, assuming everything goes well you lose at least 1/2 day every time you move.
I suggest you look into train schedules, time of traveling, and see if you really want to have such a rushed trip. Have you discussed it with your mother?
For August, I would book all hotels in advance, you don't have time to look for one after you get there. It's not clear to me if you and your mother will share a room, or you will need 2 rooms.
See how many nights you'll have in each place, and depending on train schedule, a 2 nights might mean 1 full day, or 1 1/2 day....and decide what you want to see/do at each destination. Consider that some sites are closed on Monday or weekends.
Prague - Vienna (bus or train)
Vienna - rome (flying)
Rome - Florence (train)
Florence - Venice ( train)
Venice Munich ( flying)
This is 6 segments of traveling - between checking out from hotel, getting to the train station or airport, traveling, getting at the destination, checking into the new hotel, assuming everything goes well you lose at least 1/2 day every time you move.
I suggest you look into train schedules, time of traveling, and see if you really want to have such a rushed trip. Have you discussed it with your mother?
For August, I would book all hotels in advance, you don't have time to look for one after you get there. It's not clear to me if you and your mother will share a room, or you will need 2 rooms.
See how many nights you'll have in each place, and depending on train schedule, a 2 nights might mean 1 full day, or 1 1/2 day....and decide what you want to see/do at each destination. Consider that some sites are closed on Monday or weekends.
Jun 29th, 2014, 09:31 AM
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I like to start at the farthest point and work back to the place I’m leaving from so this is how I would structure the itinerary.
Day 1 – fly Munich to Rome; afternoon sightseeing in Rome
Day 2 – Rome
Day 3 – Rome
Day 4 - Rome
Day 5 – morning train to Florence
Day 6 – Florence
Day 7 – morning train to Venice; afternoon sightseeing in Venice
Day 8 – Venice
Day 9 – Venice to Vienna – it’s at least 8 hours on the train so you might consider flying
Day 10 – Vienna
Day 11 – Vienna
Day 12 – Morning train Vienna to Prague; afternoon in Prague
Day 13 – Prague
Day 14 – Prague
Day 15 – Prague to Munich – the bus takes 5 hours, the train a bit less than an hour longer.
Regarding the bus/train - if you can sit in one place for 5 hours then take the bus. I need to get up and stretch so I prefer the train. No matter which one you take, pack a lunch with beverages for the ride. I took the bus from Nuremburg to Prague (4 hours without stopping) and it was a nice ride but I wished I had bought some lunch at the Nuremburg train station. If you take the train, try to get seats facing each other with a table between you.
Day 1 – fly Munich to Rome; afternoon sightseeing in Rome
Day 2 – Rome
Day 3 – Rome
Day 4 - Rome
Day 5 – morning train to Florence
Day 6 – Florence
Day 7 – morning train to Venice; afternoon sightseeing in Venice
Day 8 – Venice
Day 9 – Venice to Vienna – it’s at least 8 hours on the train so you might consider flying
Day 10 – Vienna
Day 11 – Vienna
Day 12 – Morning train Vienna to Prague; afternoon in Prague
Day 13 – Prague
Day 14 – Prague
Day 15 – Prague to Munich – the bus takes 5 hours, the train a bit less than an hour longer.
Regarding the bus/train - if you can sit in one place for 5 hours then take the bus. I need to get up and stretch so I prefer the train. No matter which one you take, pack a lunch with beverages for the ride. I took the bus from Nuremburg to Prague (4 hours without stopping) and it was a nice ride but I wished I had bought some lunch at the Nuremburg train station. If you take the train, try to get seats facing each other with a table between you.
Jun 29th, 2014, 12:00 PM
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Lie adrienne my experience shows trains to be infinitely more comfy than buses for the reasons she gives.
Even if it takes a tad longer and is a bit more I'd always opt for the train - if a trip is longer than a few hours that is.
Even if it takes a tad longer and is a bit more I'd always opt for the train - if a trip is longer than a few hours that is.
