TPAYT

After much research and help from Fodorites, we've received confirmations, so here's is our plan for May 10th.

Aer Lingus---Chicago to Dublin---$745

Night #1---Drive to Trim, look around, get over jet lag.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...nty_Meath.html

Nights #2 & 3---Drive to Longford (close by) Look into MDH's family background. They came from this area.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...n_Ireland.html

Night #4---Drive south to Cobh (our longest drive of the trip) Check-in, have dinner.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...unty_Cork.html

Nights #5,6,7---Drive to Kinsale (our shortest drive) Look around Cobh in the morning before we leave. Plan on using Kinsale as a base to tour the area for a few days.
Since we hear the food is so good in Kinsale, we are looking forward to 3 nice dinners.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...unty_Cork.html


Nights #8 & 9---Drive to Kilkenny. Still doing research on what to see.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev..._Kilkenny.html

Night #10---Drive north to Dublin Airport area for last night. Thinking of the Premier Hotel but haven't booked yet. Also still doing research on what to see or do on the way north.

We toured the West in Sept.'10 and we liked it so much that we are going back for more.

Any comments appreciated. Also anyone who's going to be in those areas and would like to meet up, let us know.

jaja

Looks good to me. Unfortunately, we will be in that area in June; would have loved a meet 'n' greet. Perhaps another trip.

SeeDee

Longford, now what's to do in Longford - apart from checking out the ancestors?
If you see Ardagh on a signpost (if you travel between Ballymahon and Longford town0, take the diversion to check out a pleasant little village.
The cathedral in Longford burned down some time ago, I'm afraid.
Viewmount House is the best rated place for an evening meal.

Moving onward, Lough Rynn Castle outside Mohill is a small hotel, nice for a tea break and a wander around their walled garden.
The old Courthouse in Carrick on Shannon usually has an exhibit of local crafts and sometimes an art showing. For dinner, try The Oarsman (reservation recommended).

Lough Key Forest Park offers plenty of walking trails; Boyle town itself has an abbey, plus King House.

TPAYT

SeeDee-----Thanks for the tips. As I look at the map, The Lough Key House where we are staying is between Carrick-on-Shannon and Boyle, farther north of Longford than I first thought.

MDH,s relatives were, Patrick Payton,1805, Kilglass and Jane Ane Hogan, 1809, Roscommon. So we will be looking into that.

Any other tips?

irishface

New Ross is not too far from Kilkenny and you might want to visit the DunBrody which is tied up there. It is a replica of one of the ships that took Irish immigrants to America. It carried lumber on the return trip from the US so it was "one of the better" ships. You get a ticket and go down inside. Your ticket tells who you are and you can find your place in the hold.

I found the tour very interesting and informative. After I visited here, I said I would never complain about coach on an airplane again. After all it is only a few hours as compared to weeks. (However, I have forgotten my vow a couple of times on a plane, but I do try to remember the Dun Brody.)

SeeDee

There are a few places called Kilglass but hopefully your ancestors came from Kilglass in County Roscommon; you will enjoy the views of the Kilglass Lakes when you visit.
The lakes can be reached leaving Longford town on the N5, passing over the Shannon at Tarmonbarry and taking a right turn when you see a signpost for Rooskey.

There is a Genealogy Centre in nearby Strokestown, where a search can be done for relatives that may have originated from County Roscommon. From the birth dates you give, it is probable that your relations were part of a ruthless clearance of tenant farmers in the early 19th century, many of whom ended up in Grosse Ile trying to gain entry to Canada. Strokestown Park House, residence of the evicting landlords of the time, is open to the public and now houses a Famine Museum.

The Genealogy Centre has a website : www.roscommonroots.com.

TPAYT

SeeDee----They did come from Kilglass in County Roscommon. and they did go to Canada, so your info is very useful.

When we booked Lough Key House B & B, the owner emailed us that the house was owned by Peytons from 1835 to 1894. Similar spelling---ours is Payton.

Irishface----the Dun Brody sounds so interesting, especially going inside. We will try to see it.

aussiedreamer

Saving and pinching tips for our May visit, arriving also on the 10th

sonofgerry

Hi cousin, I'm Gerry Payton from Canada.
I posted this in 1998.

patrick payton 1800-1882 married mary jane hogan b.1809 from kilglass, county roscommon, ireland. the kilglass, The dates and rosscommon information comes from patrick's tombstone in st. joseph's cemetary in ellice township. This info was lost as my grandfather thought he might be from county cork.

They came to canada about 1834. Lived in Wilmot Township, Waterloo county for a while then settled in the gore of downie township, perth county, ontario,

children include cathreine b.1833 (ireland born); thomas b.1835(ontario born); william b.1835; bernard b.1837(born Wilmot Twp.); jane b.1838; sabina b.1840(born Wilmot Twp.); Ann b.1843. bernard was my gggrandfather but ive found no other families decending from patrick payton
1800-1882.

a few records show other spellings including: paton, patton, and even parton. I have found 8 payton spellings in total - sorry my records not at hand. Census takers etc. did all the writing.

longhorn55

I assume that the purpose of your trip to Trim is to visit Trim Castle. Be sure to take one of the guided tours inside the keep--we thought that was the best thing about our visit there. Also, ask at the entrance booth to see the photos from the filming of "Braveheart". They have a photo album that they will let you see. We also enjoyed walking outside of the castle to the ruins just beyond. There aren't many people that go there and we got some great photos of Trim Castle.

I would definitely use one of those days in Kilkenny to visit the Rock of Cashel and Cahir (Cahir Castle and, perhaps Swiss Cottage). There's an excellent walking trail from the parking lot of Cahir Castle to Swiss Cottage. It's about 1.5 km, as I recall, along a little stream. There wasn't anybody walking it when we did it and it was so scenic and peaceful.

Returning from Kilkenny to Dublin, you might enjoy driving to Glendalough (about 90 minutes). The monastic ruins and the visitor's center are quite interesting and there are some excellent walks there too. If you don't mind a bit of a climb, I'd recommend the Short Spinc route for some lovely views of the countryside and glacial lakes.

TPAYT

sonofgerry----Wow! Who needs a genealogy center when we have Fodors.

We have some similar information, but yours has more depth. Where is Elice Township and St. Joseph's Cemetery? We'd like to visit.

We have Patrick Payton B.1805 married Jane Ann Hogan B.1809, Killglass and Roscommon, moving to Ontario, Canada----son Thomas H. Payton B.1837 married to Ellen Kennedy B.1838 who are MDH's great grandparents.

Their children moved to Superior, WI where some of the Paytons still live.

Small world, isn't it!

sonofgerry

My dates are from census or tombstones.
Ellice township starts at the city limits of the north side of Stratford. About 10 years ago I found that tombstone lying flat with the inscription facing up. Grass was creeping over it about 10 or 20%. I had to cut back the sod to read it. I wrote down directions to find tombstone again. Where they are now - sorry I don't know. Very small but it took 15 minutes to find and I knew the whole inscription before I went there from a cemetery index.
I worked in Thunder Bay, Ontario one summer so I've been to Superior a few times.

TPAYT

You have
Patrick Payton 1800-1882 married to Mary Jane Hogan 1809

We have
Patrick Payton 1805 married to Jane Ann Hogan 1809

So these are probably differnt people, but the names and locations (Kilglass and Roscommon moving to Ontario) are so similar----I wonder?

TPAYT

sonofgerry----can you give a broader location of Stratford? The only one I see is much further Southeast from Kilglass.

longhorn---thanks for the tip to take the tour of Trim castle. We probably would have just walked around ourselves. Also Cahir. It wasn't on our list, but now that I look into it, it sounds interesting.

eastave

I could be wrong, but I think the Stratford sonofgerry is talking about is in Ontario.