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Old Apr 11th, 1998, 10:28 AM
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Rudy
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Bavaria : Where to go and stay


Would like to stay and enjoy Bavaria with the two children. Do not know where to start. Any comments? Accommodations seem less than Switzerland or Austria
 
Old Apr 11th, 1998, 01:45 PM
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Rudy, The place to stay is Garmisch. You can do
most of the area from there, including the Ludwig
castles and Oberamagau. There are many hotels and
inns there---your budget would dictate. Go search
under "GARMISCH" and you will find several--some
are rustic inns above town with great views.
Also check out hotels in Oberamagau, but check my
spelling. Where do you go from there??
The lakes of Italy are spectacular.
 
Old Apr 11th, 1998, 03:52 PM
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BOB, I really appreciate your comments. We will be traveling north from Florence and want to get to Zermatt and Saltzburg. We will then head to Trier, the place I was born. Thanks again.
 
Old May 2nd, 1998, 03:25 PM
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You'll be enchanted by Pfaffenwinkel! Say, where? Pfaffenwinkel, German for "Pope's Corner" is truly one of the most delightful areas of Europe and one I think you would thoroughly enjoy. It's located in upper Bavaria to the south and west of Munich and just north of magnificent alpine mountain ranges and pristine lakes, all of which are in view. It gets its name from the vast number of beautiful baroque and rococo churches in even the tiniest of its villages.

To fully enjoy the area does entail renting a car, an expense you certainly won't regret since all of the major sites of interest are within an hour's drive or two. . What does the area offer? Magnificent views of the Alps and Alpine lakes. Three of mad King Ludwig's castles including Neuschwanstein (the original Disneyland castle). Munich, with its magnificent museums, palaces, town hall and shopping promenades. Extraordinary churches with austere exteriors and unbelievably ornate, baroque interiors most of which were designed and created by two sets of brothers, the Zimmermans and the Adamses. Awakening to the sound of cowbells in the morning. Seven hundred-year-old towns with well preserved perimeter walls and ramparts. Superb and inexpensive dining on native dishes that may include trout from alpine streams or chamois, an alpine antelope. Church graveyards that look as if they are maintained by skilled Japanese gardeners. Immaculate villages. Verdant rolling pasturelands.

Nine years ago, we stayed in a family owned inn in a small farming village called Hohenfurch. Our immaculate room, with bath, refrigerator, sink, two burner stove, king sized bed, dining table and chairs and furnished private balcony cost $36.00 a night and included a generous breakfast of meats, cheeses, breads and superb coffee. The inn's dining room featured Bavarian specialties, (including that antelope) as well as trout taken from a lovely but frigid alpine stream that flows through the center of the village to the river Lechs about a quarter of a mile away. On the weekend, the restaurant featured live Bavarian music provided by locals in a wonderfully relaxed and informal atmosphere.

No one in the place spoke English! We spoke no German, but we had no difficulty in communicating our needs. When we arrived, for example, the place was locked up tight. The only evidence of life was a pair of cats drinking milk from a pail near the kitchen. I finally got someone's attention through a kitchen window, was directed to the front entrance by hand signals, presented a copy of my letter requesting a reservation and was led to our delightful room. We discovered later that Hohenfurch caters to German skiers in winter but rarely sees American tourists, if ever. The hotel is the Landgasthof Schonach-Hof.

The village is small but charming. A trout laden alpine stream and lush lawns and most attractive homes with lovely gardens and windowboxes laden with geraniums or petunias border its one main street. The village church is typical of the region; austere from the outside with red roof, stuccoed walls that set off a mural of a religious figure and no stained glass windows. The interior is breath taking, as is the small graveyard beyond the church. St. Ursula's, a small chapel built in 1492, sits on a knoll amidst cow pastures just to the south of the inn. The village has a small grocery store and bakery and despite the name Bahnhofstrasse (Railroad Station Street), no train station.

The entire Pfaffenwinkel area is criss-crossed with hiking trails, all of which offer superb views. Hiking routes appear in the Pfaffenwinkel brochure.

Hohenfurch is situated on Route B17, the German Romantic Road, so named because it courses through a number of charming, delightful, historic towns and villages from Wurzburg in the north, through Rothenburg o.d. Tauber, Augsberg, Landsberg (where Hitler wrote "Mein Kampf" while imprisoned there), Hohenfurch, Schongau and Fussen.

Drive to the Wieskirche near Steingaden, about 12 miles from Hohenfurch to see the epitome of rococo artistry. Drive 10 miles to Rottenbuch and visit another rococo masterpiece, the parish church; (you'll see its bell tower from the road). Drive to Peiting about 8 miles from Hohenfurch ascend Hohe Peissenberg and get a stunning view of the Alps and eleven alpine lakes. Drive to Schongau, only 3 miles from Hohenfurch, have a meal at the Alte Post Inn, then walk the 700-year-old ramparts that encircle part of the town.

Drive 25 miles south to Schwangau and visit mad King Ludwig's fairy tale castle, Neuschwanstein. Visit his more sedate castle Hohenschwangau in the same village. Take the Tegelberg cable railway to view the German and Austrian Alps.

Drive a bit further to Oberammergau. Many of the residents will remind you of New Testament figures. A Passion Play is staged in Oberammergau every ten years (next in 2000) and the citizenry make up the play's cast. Oberammergau, while famous for its Passion Play, is equally famous for its huge population of wood carvers and for the murals on the exterior walls of most of its homes and shops. Great place for souvenir hunting!

Don't even think of driving to Munich! While it's only about 40 to 45 miles from Hohenfurch, there's no place to park once you get there.

Drive to Herrsching on the Ammersee (it's about 35 miles northeast of Hohenfurch). . Make a detour just before Herrsching. Stop in Andechs and sample the beer! It is one of the world's premiere beers, brewed in the monastery in Andechs and available in Andechs and no where else! Sidetrack to the Starnberger See, the lake where Ludwig, the mad king drowned. Accident, suicide, assassination? No one knows. Back track to Herrsching. Park the car at the train station and ride the train to Munich.

Munich's train station is ideally located. Get a city map and list of events from the tourist office at the station. It's located opposite Track 11. Exit the station and walk the long and wide pedestrian promenade (Neuhauserstrasse) to the Marienplatz and the impressive Gothic style town hall built at the turn of the century. Pass sidewalk cafes, formal restaurants, beer halls, fashionable boutiques and department stores on the way. Stop at "Augustiner" at 16 Neuhauserstrasse for lunch and the best beer in Munich. Eat and drink in the beer garden to the rear or at the sidewalk café in the front. Look for signs between the "new" Gothic town hall and the "old" 14th Century town hall that point the way to the "Viktualienmarkt" an open air market laden with fresh flowers, vegetables and meats.

At the new town hall at 11 AM, noon, 5 and 9 PM, a glockenspiel, with dancers and jousting knights on a merry-go-round perform for delighted tourists and children.

Come back another day and visit two superb art museums or the fascinating science and technology museum (Deutsches Museum). Visit the Residenz, an impressive palace not far from the new town hall.

Visit Dachau, about 10 miles north of Munich and approachable by train from Munich's station. Visit the town of Dachau, as well as the concentration camp. Dachau was once the Bavarian center for the arts, subsequently surpassed by Munich. Do check out the 16th Century castle in the old part of the town.


 
Old May 2nd, 1998, 03:26 PM
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Wes Fowler
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You'll be enchanted by Pfaffenwinkel! Say, where? Pfaffenwinkel, German for "Pope's Corner" is truly one of the most delightful areas of Europe and one I think you would thoroughly enjoy. It's located in upper Bavaria to the south and west of Munich and just north of magnificent alpine mountain ranges and pristine lakes, all of which are in view. It gets its name from the vast number of beautiful baroque and rococo churches in even the tiniest of its villages.

To fully enjoy the area does entail renting a car, an expense you certainly won't regret since all of the major sites of interest are within an hour's drive or two. . What does the area offer? Magnificent views of the Alps and Alpine lakes. Three of mad King Ludwig's castles including Neuschwanstein (the original Disneyland castle). Munich, with its magnificent museums, palaces, town hall and shopping promenades. Extraordinary churches with austere exteriors and unbelievably ornate, baroque interiors most of which were designed and created by two sets of brothers, the Zimmermans and the Adamses. Awakening to the sound of cowbells in the morning. Seven hundred-year-old towns with well preserved perimeter walls and ramparts. Superb and inexpensive dining on native dishes that may include trout from alpine streams or chamois, an alpine antelope. Church graveyards that look as if they are maintained by skilled Japanese gardeners. Immaculate villages. Verdant rolling pasturelands.

Nine years ago, we stayed in a family owned inn in a small farming village called Hohenfurch. Our immaculate room, with bath, refrigerator, sink, two burner stove, king sized bed, dining table and chairs and furnished private balcony cost $36.00 a night and included a generous breakfast of meats, cheeses, breads and superb coffee. The inn's dining room featured Bavarian specialties, (including that antelope) as well as trout taken from a lovely but frigid alpine stream that flows through the center of the village to the river Lechs about a quarter of a mile away. On the weekend, the restaurant featured live Bavarian music provided by locals in a wonderfully relaxed and informal atmosphere.

No one in the place spoke English! We spoke no German, but we had no difficulty in communicating our needs. When we arrived, for example, the place was locked up tight. The only evidence of life was a pair of cats drinking milk from a pail near the kitchen. I finally got someone's attention through a kitchen window, was directed to the front entrance by hand signals, presented a copy of my letter requesting a reservation and was led to our delightful room. We discovered later that Hohenfurch caters to German skiers in winter but rarely sees American tourists, if ever. The hotel is the Landgasthof Schonach-Hof.

The village is small but charming. A trout laden alpine stream and lush lawns and most attractive homes with lovely gardens and windowboxes laden with geraniums or petunias border its one main street. The village church is typical of the region; austere from the outside with red roof, stuccoed walls that set off a mural of a religious figure and no stained glass windows. The interior is breath taking, as is the small graveyard beyond the church. St. Ursula's, a small chapel built in 1492, sits on a knoll amidst cow pastures just to the south of the inn. The village has a small grocery store and bakery and despite the name Bahnhofstrasse (Railroad Station Street), no train station.

The entire Pfaffenwinkel area is criss-crossed with hiking trails, all of which offer superb views. Hiking routes appear in the Pfaffenwinkel brochure.

Hohenfurch is situated on Route B17, the German Romantic Road, so named because it courses through a number of charming, delightful, historic towns and villages from Wurzburg in the north, through Rothenburg o.d. Tauber, Augsberg, Landsberg (where Hitler wrote "Mein Kampf" while imprisoned there), Hohenfurch, Schongau and Fussen.

Drive to the Wieskirche near Steingaden, about 12 miles from Hohenfurch to see the epitome of rococo artistry. Drive 10 miles to Rottenbuch and visit another rococo masterpiece, the parish church; (you'll see its bell tower from the road). Drive to Peiting about 8 miles from Hohenfurch ascend Hohe Peissenberg and get a stunning view of the Alps and eleven alpine lakes. Drive to Schongau, only 3 miles from Hohenfurch, have a meal at the Alte Post Inn, then walk the 700-year-old ramparts that encircle part of the town.

Drive 25 miles south to Schwangau and visit mad King Ludwig's fairy tale castle, Neuschwanstein. Visit his more sedate castle Hohenschwangau in the same village. Take the Tegelberg cable railway to view the German and Austrian Alps.

Drive a bit further to Oberammergau. Many of the residents will remind you of New Testament figures. A Passion Play is staged in Oberammergau every ten years (next in 2000) and the citizenry make up the play's cast. Oberammergau, while famous for its Passion Play, is equally famous for its huge population of wood carvers and for the murals on the exterior walls of most of its homes and shops. Great place for souvenir hunting!

Don't even think of driving to Munich! While it's only about 40 to 45 miles from Hohenfurch, there's no place to park once you get there.

Drive to Herrsching on the Ammersee (it's about 35 miles northeast of Hohenfurch). . Make a detour just before Herrsching. Stop in Andechs and sample the beer! It is one of the world's premiere beers, brewed in the monastery in Andechs and available in Andechs and no where else! Sidetrack to the Starnberger See, the lake where Ludwig, the mad king drowned. Accident, suicide, assassination? No one knows. Back track to Herrsching. Park the car at the train station and ride the train to Munich.

Munich's train station is ideally located. Get a city map and list of events from the tourist office at the station. It's located opposite Track 11. Exit the station and walk the long and wide pedestrian promenade (Neuhauserstrasse) to the Marienplatz and the impressive Gothic style town hall built at the turn of the century. Pass sidewalk cafes, formal restaurants, beer halls, fashionable boutiques and department stores on the way. Stop at "Augustiner" at 16 Neuhauserstrasse for lunch and the best beer in Munich. Eat and drink in the beer garden to the rear or at the sidewalk café in the front. Look for signs between the "new" Gothic town hall and the "old" 14th Century town hall that point the way to the "Viktualienmarkt" an open air market laden with fresh flowers, vegetables and meats.

At the new town hall at 11 AM, noon, 5 and 9 PM, a glockenspiel, with dancers and jousting knights on a merry-go-round perform for delighted tourists and children.

Come back another day and visit two superb art museums or the fascinating science and technology museum (Deutsches Museum). Visit the Residenz, an impressive palace not far from the new town hall.

Visit Dachau, about 10 miles north of Munich and approachable by train from Munich's station. Visit the town of Dachau, as well as the concentration camp. Dachau was once the Bavarian center for the arts, subsequently surpassed by Munich. Do check out the 16th Century castle in the old part of the town.


 

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