Which Building at Chojukan Ryokan at Hoshi Onsen
Jun 21st, 2006, 01:12 PM
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Which Building at Chojukan Ryokan at Hoshi Onsen
I am booking reservations at Chojukan and originally booked the Honkan wing as I read that it is a traditional beauty. But I was just told that wing does not have toilets in the rooms. They told me there are 3 other buildings: Bekkan, Horryyden, and Kunzanso. Does anyone know which of these buildings has a more classic Ryokan style? Old and traditional and still nice? Don't want a standard hotel room.
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Jun 21st, 2006, 02:16 PM
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Paulo, sorry no first hand experience from me but to give you an idea, take a look at the following page.
http://www.houshi-onsen.jp/kannai.htm
Scoll down a bit. Photos show 4 different types of rooms, the one with Western chairs and a table is Horyu-den, Yashi room. Left to Yashio room is a room in Shozan-so wing, under Shozan-so is a room in Honkan (main bld) and to its right is a room in Bekkan (annex). Horyu-den seems most expensive (den means palace). I saw general prices on online booking site. They don't show all the room rates accoring to Chojukan's own site but it does not show rates at all, that's funny.
A big photos, above 4 room photos, with a table made from a huge tree trunk in the middle is the entrace/reception area. very interesting place from all these photos.
http://www.houshi-onsen.jp/kannai.htm
Scoll down a bit. Photos show 4 different types of rooms, the one with Western chairs and a table is Horyu-den, Yashi room. Left to Yashio room is a room in Shozan-so wing, under Shozan-so is a room in Honkan (main bld) and to its right is a room in Bekkan (annex). Horyu-den seems most expensive (den means palace). I saw general prices on online booking site. They don't show all the room rates accoring to Chojukan's own site but it does not show rates at all, that's funny.
A big photos, above 4 room photos, with a table made from a huge tree trunk in the middle is the entrace/reception area. very interesting place from all these photos.
Jun 21st, 2006, 02:34 PM
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When you click their online reservations you get this page, that has pictures of the room type you are reserving as well as the price. http://www6.jalan.net/jup/JUP0305.do...;yad_no=325526
Jun 21st, 2006, 02:49 PM
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Kim, that(Jaran hotel booking site - one of the Japanese major booking site)'s where I saw Horyu-den the most expensive but Hoyru-den's site says "You can now book online PART of our rooms on Jaran site".
Jun 21st, 2006, 03:20 PM
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Hotel's web site also says "the building of honkan, bekkan and ...yu bath has been put on the cadidate list of tangible cultural treasure by the office of culture. That means, honkan (main bld) and bekkan (annexe) seem older so possibly more traditional part of this hotel than other parts such as Horyu-den.
Jun 21st, 2006, 08:30 PM
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Thanks so much kappa and Kim. Since I do not read Japanese, I cannot tell which room is which in the 2nd link Kim suggested that also lists prices.
I had read a book that said the Honkan wing was oldest and most traiditonla so that's what I originally booked. I called them directly but no-one spoke english. We were only able to communicate that I should fax them my request. They did respond by email to me but told me Honkan had no toilets. So I sent them an email response saying I wanted another room. They then emailed asking which building did I want and gave me fees. THe Honkan room was to be 16,000 yen, Bekkan 17,475, Kunzanso 19050 to 21,150, and Horyyden 21,150. None of these rate seem to math the website Kim sent the link for. I assume based on your comments that I should choose either Bekkan or Kunzanso and that Bekkan may be one of the older buildings.
Questions:
1) Do you think there is a way I can mention the prices on this site you sent me and ask why they are different?
2) Can you tell me what price it says for Bekkan? For Kunzanso?
3) Does Bekkan look good to you?
I am looking for a traditional room for two people. It does not need to be that large but a view outdoors to the garden would be great.
Thaks again.
I had read a book that said the Honkan wing was oldest and most traiditonla so that's what I originally booked. I called them directly but no-one spoke english. We were only able to communicate that I should fax them my request. They did respond by email to me but told me Honkan had no toilets. So I sent them an email response saying I wanted another room. They then emailed asking which building did I want and gave me fees. THe Honkan room was to be 16,000 yen, Bekkan 17,475, Kunzanso 19050 to 21,150, and Horyyden 21,150. None of these rate seem to math the website Kim sent the link for. I assume based on your comments that I should choose either Bekkan or Kunzanso and that Bekkan may be one of the older buildings.
Questions:
1) Do you think there is a way I can mention the prices on this site you sent me and ask why they are different?
2) Can you tell me what price it says for Bekkan? For Kunzanso?
3) Does Bekkan look good to you?
I am looking for a traditional room for two people. It does not need to be that large but a view outdoors to the garden would be great.
Thaks again.
Jun 21st, 2006, 11:24 PM
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Paolo, on jalan booking site :
1) The prices shown are "FROM --- yen" so you are asking if "I can mention the prices on this site you sent me and ask why they are different?" but they could say that's the bottom rates and and they can not apply those on your dates etc (but still you can mention it, nothing to loose I suppose).
2) So the bottom prices on Jalan are :
10-tatami room (suppose this is Honkan?) = 14850 yen (meals at a large dining)
Bekkan 1 = 15375 (" in the room)
Bekkan 2 = 15375 ("in the room)
Kunzan-so = 16950 (10 and 6 tatami rooms. Meal in the room or at another dining room - description unclear)
Horyuden = 19050 (8 and 4.5 tatami-rooms. 4,5 room has a Kotatsu. meals in the room)
From the photosBekkan looks good enough, very typical Japanese style hotel room that is main tatami room + a sitting area by the window with 2 low chairs and a small table. Kunzan-so and HoRYU-den ( not RYY) looks nice though. It's hard to compare the views from the photos thoug one would think expensive rooms should have better view. For a nicer room, I'd go for one of the more expensive ones.
1) The prices shown are "FROM --- yen" so you are asking if "I can mention the prices on this site you sent me and ask why they are different?" but they could say that's the bottom rates and and they can not apply those on your dates etc (but still you can mention it, nothing to loose I suppose).
2) So the bottom prices on Jalan are :
10-tatami room (suppose this is Honkan?) = 14850 yen (meals at a large dining)
Bekkan 1 = 15375 (" in the room)
Bekkan 2 = 15375 ("in the room)
Kunzan-so = 16950 (10 and 6 tatami rooms. Meal in the room or at another dining room - description unclear)
Horyuden = 19050 (8 and 4.5 tatami-rooms. 4,5 room has a Kotatsu. meals in the room)
From the photosBekkan looks good enough, very typical Japanese style hotel room that is main tatami room + a sitting area by the window with 2 low chairs and a small table. Kunzan-so and HoRYU-den ( not RYY) looks nice though. It's hard to compare the views from the photos thoug one would think expensive rooms should have better view. For a nicer room, I'd go for one of the more expensive ones.
Jun 22nd, 2006, 12:41 AM
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Also remember that the prices are per person not per room. You can check the prices and availability for specific nights on that site...through the month of July only. If a room is available, it will show the price for the number of people in the room that you indicated, as well as the price per person in a calendar.
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These ryokan at Hoshi Onsen area are rated as two of the most beautiful Ryokans in all Japan. They are at Onsens in the mountains west and slightly north of Tokyo: Chojukan at Hoshi onsen and Osenkaku at Takaragawa Onsen. Chojukan is a stunning Ryokan with beautiful old wood buildings set among a beautiful stream. The antique buildings and setting indoors and outdoors are wonderful and they provide wonderful Kaiseki dinners in your room. Here the main bath is indoors in an antique bath house. However there is a pretty outdoor one also. Osenkaku Ryokan is a nice building but not quite as beautiful as Chojukan however the Onsen is a even more stunning. It's an outdoor pond in an incomparable setting by a rushing river with rising steam all outdoors. We spent one night and almost a full day in each and that was wonderful.
You would have to take the bullet train from Tokyo to Jomo Kogen (less than 2 hours) station then either take small local buses or get a driver to pick you up at the train station but these places are so wonderful. Both are available through japan guest houses but you can email them directly for info especially at Chojukan. Here's a website with photos of Takaragawa onsen: http://www.anatol.org/projects/rachel/springs.html
You can also book them on Japanican.com:
Takargawa Onsen: http://www.japanican.com/hotels/Shis...spx?st=3217001
Hoshi - Chojukan: http://www.japanican.com/hotels/Shis...spx?st=3223001
Or Email Noriko Okamura at Chojukan at Hoshi onsen at: [email protected]
Email Osenkaku at Takaragawa Onsen at: [email protected]
Here are some photos of chojukan but these do not do it justice at all. I have many nicer ones but an not sure how to post them w/o giving everyone in the world access to them. http://www.japaneseguesthouses.com/d...a/chojukan.htm
You would have to take the bullet train from Tokyo to Jomo Kogen (less than 2 hours) station then either take small local buses or get a driver to pick you up at the train station but these places are so wonderful. Both are available through japan guest houses but you can email them directly for info especially at Chojukan. Here's a website with photos of Takaragawa onsen: http://www.anatol.org/projects/rachel/springs.html
You can also book them on Japanican.com:
Takargawa Onsen: http://www.japanican.com/hotels/Shis...spx?st=3217001
Hoshi - Chojukan: http://www.japanican.com/hotels/Shis...spx?st=3223001
Or Email Noriko Okamura at Chojukan at Hoshi onsen at: [email protected]
Email Osenkaku at Takaragawa Onsen at: [email protected]
Here are some photos of chojukan but these do not do it justice at all. I have many nicer ones but an not sure how to post them w/o giving everyone in the world access to them. http://www.japaneseguesthouses.com/d...a/chojukan.htm
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I live in Japan and have been to Hoshi Onsen and this well known onsen ryokan. It wasn't one of my favorite places, honestly speaking. Quite touristy. I think during a weekday, it could be quite beautiful, but on the weekends it's very crowded with tourists and not very special. I've been to dozens of onsen and this doesn't rate that highly.
