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Old Mar 17th, 2007, 10:21 AM
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Hotwire is showing a 3* in downtown Providence for $59 with hi-speed internet access.
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Old Mar 17th, 2007, 10:41 AM
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If you go with extended stay, parking is likely free, close to airport and with a late checkout, perhaps your friends can freshen up before the next journey. Or go for Hotwire downtown and find on street parking. Again, see for late checkout.

You may want to make your way up to Atwell Ave/Federal Hill for some nice cozy Italian food to warm up your St Patricks Day visit. There is a great food emporium - Constantines? up a ways on the right...good atmoshere with tables and extensive takeout for back at the room if you'd rather.

Good luck with the rest of your adventure!
 
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I ultimately chose the Knights Inn in Seekonk and it's GREAT! I got a queen bed room for $57 w/ AAA (thanks Mom and Dad), the room is very nice and even comes with a tub. There's also a fridge and a makeup table (I don't know what they're called, but I guess since I won't be using it, it doesn't matter). I just want to get some sleep, for my Chicago flight was spent trying not to get smushed by two rather large passengers next to me (I had window) and constant elbowing. The most sleep I got last night was curled in a ball on a bench at O'Hare. Good night everyone.
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Glad to hear you made the trip safely, and that your friend will be able to get there too.

This winter has been all uphill and downhill and very quickly. I think we had a day's notice about this storm.

On your way north, stop at any rest stop or McDonald's and pick up one of the travel guide. It lists hotels and phone numbers all the way up the road, where the hotel is located off the highway, discouted rates and the phone numbers so you can call right from the car and make a reservation. We've done that and gotten rooms as low as $25 for the night.

Good luck with your trip and have a GREAT time.
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In case anyone is wondering, we are safe and sound in Montreal. Unfortunately, my friend's luggage is not. His luggage is floating somewhere in the country. It took awhile to get to Montreal, mostly due to the ice and snow buildup, especially in Vermont, but also because we took our time and drove along Lake Champlain for a bit. It is quite cold in Montreal, but not unbearable. Something like 22 degrees with windchill of 11. There are so many drunk people running rampant throughout the city; I don't know if it's because of St Patty's Day or it's just the city's charm, but I've been harassed a few times within a span of two hours.
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Hurray, so glad you made it OK, and thanks for remembering to update us. Doesn't Montreal have plenty of underground passages and walkways so you can avoid the actual weather? Enjoy!
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Old Mar 18th, 2007, 11:45 PM
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So pleased things are almost working out!!!! I am sure there will be lots of laughs and memories and of course a wonderful trip report. Thanks for checking in !
 
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Thanks for update - those of us who respond and try to help out actually think of posters and wonder how things turned out.

Local news (Boston) this AM had video of Boston airport and piles of luggage everywhere - hoping to be reunited with passengers.
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gail thinks all that luggage looks hopeful, but I thought it looked a little desperate. I actually gasped when the TV news showed about an acre of unclaimed luggage, solidly packed together standing up, at least half of it was those black rolling suitcases. If that's what you're traveling with, put a bright colored ribbon on the handle.
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Old Mar 19th, 2007, 05:12 AM
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Gail is so right- thanks for being kind enough to let us know how you are - sometimes it's hard when we never 'hear' from anyone again and just are left to wonder after getting 'invested' a bit in their travel and safety

Glad you are safe and having an adventure.
Losing luggage ....look at the bright side....for me, it would mean an excuse to shop

have fun- if you are so inclined post us after and tell us of any great finds, restaurants, cool bars or clubs, etc.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2007, 11:44 PM
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Well, everyone, I'm back in LA, so relieved to find warm temperatures. Thanks for all the helpful advice, and I hope you enjoy my trip report.

This trip has not quite turned out the way we expected. There was the cancellation and luggage fiasco, (the airline called when we were at the Ben & Jerry’s factory saying they found his bag in PVD). Snow and ice made it a bit difficult to travel, but we got to see Lake Champlain, which is magnificent in the winter. The Ben & Jerry’s factory tour was the best part of the trip, and we got plenty of pictures and souvenirs. We finally arrived in Montreal around 10PM (we left PVD at 11) and instantly became lost in a sea of tiny French signs. We finally gave up and found a policeman to give us directions, then of course, we had to find a place to PARK the car in the city which took half an hour.

Montreal reminds me of New York with a completely different feel. I can't really explain it, maybe it's the language, but I felt like I wasn't in N. America anymore. Montreal was extremely cold, in the single digits w/ wind chill. There also wasn't an overwhelming amount to do, plus the weather didn't exactly encourage sightseeing. The underground city was pretty overrated I think; it was basically a series of malls and hotels. The Olympic Park is something Montrealeans cling to with a sense of pride, but seeing as how they hosted in the 1970s, the stadium and village had definitely seen better days. Montreal Tower (which you pay 10 bucks or so to go up) was highly overrated and although you got a good view, Montreal in the winter is...well, bleak, even from a hundred feet up. We did try smoked-meat though, and that was…pretty strange. We did have a memorable dining experience at a local Chinese restaurant near our hostel, by the Mcdonald’s on Mackay between Rene Levesque and St. Catherine’s- cheap food and crowded with local students from Concordia. The hostel was pretty good, but the staff seemed a bit standoff-ish and everyone seemed to be doing their own thing. We agreed that the city was perhaps much more tourist-friendly in the summer, but in the harsh winter, not so much.

We decided to drive to Brunswick, Maine to visit my friend's grandmother and skip on another night at the hostel around 8PM, figuring the roads would be clear by then. Right after the border crossing, we nearly hit three deer frolicking on the road, and it began to snow pretty heavily as we drove through Maine. Then, more deer came out of nowhere but we narrowly avoided hitting them. We were a bit disappointed that we didn’t spot any moose though, as the border crossing agent and road signs warned us about. It took forever to make it to Wiscasset, ME, definitely in the middle of nowhere (an island) and the road conditions were quite poor. We arrived at 4AM and collapsed into warm beds.

The next day, after a hearty breakfast of flapjacks, we loaded up the car and prepared for the long drive to Boston. Of course, this is when we realized that the back tire was flat, so after haggling with the car rental company (they refused to do anything since we didn’t buy their insurance, although they warned us that we better bring back the car with the same tires that left (meaning we were required to either repair the tire or replace the tire, down to the model number). Fortunately, there was a Sears that was able to fix the tire at a low cost (also fortunate that we discovered the tire in the garage and not by the side of the road), but our schedule was pushed back even further when we were pulled over in New Hampshire for speeding (I wasn’t driving, of course).

We headed to PVD and pick up his luggage, but of course there was no one at the luggage counter and the ticketing agents were “unable” to help us, even though we could SEE his bag through the window. Discouraged and angry, we headed to Boston and checked into the hostel and even found PARKING behind the hostel. It was located by the Charles River on Massachusetts and Haviland, highly recommended. Met folks from all over the world, perhaps it was the fact that we spoke the local language that made us feel more comfortable. However, I thought since we couldn’t speak French in Montreal, it would make things much more interesting since we (and most foreigners) would be on the same footing, but not so. There was just something more comforting about Boston, perhaps the currency deal also made a difference. We managed to find a local Thai restaurant (Bangkok City) across from the McDonald’s (everything is in respect to a McD’s) on Boylston that was amazing! Next day, we toured downtown, JFK Memorial Library, UMass, Harvard, then headed to Salem. Unfortunately, everything shuts down in Salem quite early, so our trip was for nothing, except I got pictures of witch signs. Salem seems quite commercialized and touristy, with all their museums and shops. I would’ve liked to have seen gallows or a re-created Puritan village, but I guess there’s nothing I could do about that.

Back in Boston, we headed to the “Daily Catch,” which we heard great things about (we couldn’t leave New England w/o trying authentic clam chowder!), but getting there was a huge headache. Roads in downtown Boston circle, change names, change directions all within a span of a few blocks, then of course there’s the parking situation so by the time we found the place and parked it was closed. Everything else in the area on Hanover St was either overpriced/too fancy or closed, so we had to settle for McDonald’s, which I HATE doing on vacation! It was either that or Dunkin Donuts (New Englanders sure love their donuts!).

This morning, we returned our car a few hours before our flights departed so that we wouldn’t be charged for an extra day, and took the bus to downtown Providence. Wow, I don’t mean to offend anyone from Providence, but what a depressing place! The area seemed to have no character, except for those Subways and Dunkin Donuts that line every other block. We snapped a few pictures of the State House and various downtown sights and headed back to the airport. Thus the end of my New England adventure. I’m not quite sure how I feel about it, other than the cold. After a day or two, I got tired of my hands/face getting numb after ten minutes, or my face getting chapped by the wind. The snow was a nice change of pace, but when I realized what a headache dealing with it (driving and walking) is, I changed my mind! I had a compact car (2WD) and didn’t have any more trouble than other cars (so it seemed anyway).

One thing I found striking was the friendliness of the locals in New England, especially Vermont (certainly not the New Hampshire trooper!). Everyone was more than willing to help with directions and point us in the right direction. Same goes for everyone at Fodor’s- you guys are great!
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Old Mar 23rd, 2007, 02:16 AM
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I'm glad you made it back safely after driving so many miles in the middle of the night. Next time, visit Wiscasset when the good eating places are open (i.e. the Sea Basket on Rt 1). Providence looks a lot nicer in spring/summer/fall esp the area around the canal where they have Waterfire. While I prefer Boston's North End over Federal Hill, Federal Hill in Providence is still full of great Italian restaurants, bakeries, etc. Sounds like you kept your good humor despite all the problems. Thanks for the update!
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Old Mar 23rd, 2007, 03:07 AM
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Thanks for the update. The reason many people do not travel to Montreal or even New England in the winter is just the thing that made the trip so miserable for you - the cold and snow. Not just the actual conditions, but risks of delays, closures. I hope others read your post with very open eyes and take it into consideration when planning a winter trip to this area. (I live in Boston area and hate it in the winter). And because of the weather, many places close early in the winter - who would go out in this weather?

The other thing your trip report emphasizes is the difficulty of navigating around Boston - we warn people, but it can not truly be believed until one experiences it.

I am also glad you did not have any problems driving at night along the routes you took - you are braver than I and you are lucky that you did not have more serious encounters with deer, much less a moose.

I hope you have a chance in the future to visit New England and southern Canada in better weather - it really is a much better experience.

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You said it, Gail!
We spent 3.5 hours trying to get from Concord, NH to Boston, MA (a 1.25 hour drive) last Friday (the storm the OP refers to) to get in to town for Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. Finally turned around at Rt. 495 and spent another couple hours trying to get home. YUK!
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So glad you checked back and filled us in !
Mostly - glad you and friend are safe -
sorry for some of the disappointing parts of your trip, but it seems like you took it all in stride -

echoing what was said above -
unless you are coming for outdoor winter sports -downhill skiing, snow shoeing, ice climbing, hiking in gorgeous surroundings in the freezing cold - etc......this is why all my relatives from LA wait until the spring/summer/fall to visit

I hope you get a chance to visit again in better weather -
and get lots of advice first which would help b/c people could recommend things like Waterfire in Providence, areas to walk that are nice, restaurants in the NOrth End that would be affordable for you AND open, and even driving or other directions and hints !!

So come back soon -
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Old Mar 23rd, 2007, 04:15 AM
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I did enjoy reading your report brushfire, and marveled at the territory you covered--in bad weather no less. I suspect you are much younger than I! I sure thought about you when that storm materialized in a big way!

Your report certainly reinforces my feelings about my "homeland" in the winter time, and why I'd never, ever, want to live in that area again. Glorious in spring, summer and fall, but the pits in winter and winter lasts forever. Spring begins in May and we often had our first snow flurries before Halloween! Growing up, I spent most of my summers on an island on Lake Champlain. It's a beautiful area...in the summertime!

Boston: when my husband worked there I would not drive in to meet him...I'd go as far as Cambridge and that was it. In regard to driving in Boston, he used to comment that if you made eye contact with another driver at an intersection, you've just lost your right of way.

Glad you are home in sunny CA safe and sound!
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Old Mar 23rd, 2007, 04:28 AM
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Yes, winter sure is nasty. But spring in the NE is a magical time.

1st crocus in my garden is about to bloom. Tiny green leaves and a tight purple bud poking up through the last of the melting snow. When I get home tonight I'll be greeted by a row of tiny, but beautiful crocus flowers - sure sign that spring is finally here.

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I definitely agree with everyone about the miserable conditions and the delays that cold weather can bring- the temperature was hovering around freezing when it snowed so there was the added headache of freezing rain and accumulation...not a good idea in windy rural Maine! The area, especially Lake Champlain looks beautiful, even in the winter with the lake frozen over.

Boston- I realized I never should've taken the car anywhere, should've just parked it and taken the T. It was extremely frustrating going downtown off the 93, and those expressways take you in circles!

I do regret driving so much though- I feel like I spent most of my trip driving. Next time, I'll choose to focus on fewer areas so that I could get the "true experience"...NOT in the winter! I never thought I would be so glad to be back in 75 degree-weather-L.A., but I am. Just to think, a few weeks ago it was in the 70s in New England. And OO, I'm a junior at UCLA. GO BRUINS! I suspect that I am younger than most Fodorites, but am trying to get started on my traveling early.
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brushfire - that you are a junior in college puts a lot of this in perspective for me, as my son is also a college junior. For better or worse, people your age have a completely different idea of travel preparation than old (in my 50s) people like me have. Just glad that you are exploring new places - life would be truly boring without seeing new places.

My son is currently on spring break camping with his girlfriend "in South Carolina somewhere" - and his total preparation was to get a tent, 2 sleeping bags and picking up some food.

How I sometimes wish I could free myself to travel with much less preparation than I "Need" to make now. However, that advance preparation and planning have also prevented things like driving in a winter storm hundreds of miles as you did - there is no right or wrong way to travel and either extreme means one misses out on something.

Please come back to New England some time. It is really magnificent and fun when it is not snowing, sleeting, icing.
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Brushfire

I suspect that I am younger than most Fodorites,....


Gee guys, whatever do you think we said that gave that impression???
50's like Gail, but hey, I think we did ok with our advice - although if we'd had more time to help, I'm sure we would have also been flipping you many other web sites to check out (lonely planet, rick steeves, and a zillion others) that often have things a tad more geared to college age travel -

Gail,I'm with you - my son leaves tomorrow for spring break driving to FLA from waaaay up northern NE and I suspect he'll be packing the same or less than yours -

but like you brushfire, we are all so glad they are just traveling !

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