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Old Nov 29th, 2000 | 08:49 PM
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What Happened?

Am I imagining it or did Fodors remove the last two political threads? I.e., Katherine Harris as an ambassador, and should travelers boycott Florida? How much pressure WERE you under to censor "non-travel" posts? Or am I just not finding them?

Maybe you'd better limiting this forum to innane little questions about Vegas, Hawaii, and WDW where people can take their little virtual vacations. Or, to discussions about toilets, another classic Fodors thread. I guess current events and world history are too difficult to deal with. Q: If travel doesn't connect you to the larger world out there, then what good is this forum?
 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 06:03 AM
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Good eye, American. I believe we should immediately count all of the threads to make sure the opinions of all Fodorites are fairly and accurately represented. Remember, a thread is more than a whole bunch of people killing time when they should be working. A thread is a voice. Your voice. And your voice should matter.
 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 07:41 AM
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lol cindy...
 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 07:58 AM
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Gee, too bad fellas and gals. Fodor's has taken away your little toy. You might actually have to sit in your office and do some work! I say: Right on, Fodor's, for getting rid of the garbage!
 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 08:33 AM
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"Get," that statement is patently unfair! I don't have an office...I talk to Fodor's in the computer lab.
 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 08:56 AM
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"Get" has never been fair or had anything positive to say in any posts I can attribute to him/her. Usually its the same whine, "Get back to work" blahblahblah. So what are YOU doing here "Get"?
 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 11:18 AM
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First machine count: Margin Bush. Second machine count: Hurry up Billy-Joe bring back that missing ballot box. Thay caught us. Smaller margin Bush. Partial manual counts ('cause dem yankees makin' us): Margin, TRUTH. Maybe dem marks ARE votes after all.
 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 12:01 PM
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Picking over presidential "undervotes" and trying to divine voters' intentions just ain't right!

But apparently this is a rule that only applies east of the Mississippi. TRAVEL TOPIC.

In New Mexico on Tuesday, Republican party officials prevailed upon the state canvassing board to have a judge consider whether undervotes in Roosevelt County should be re-examined and possibly included in the county's tally. Gore currently leads Bush by 483 votes in New Mexico, and there are 570 undervotes in Roosevelt County, which voted for Bush 2-1. That's of course the same argument Republicans ridicule when it's made in Florida by the Gore forces.

Was the Bush campaign itself behind this seemingly self-contradictory behavior? Officials in Austin, as well as New Mexico state party chair John Dendahl TRAVEL TOPIC deny that Bush's organization told the state GOP to get a judge to peek at the undervotes. But the Bush camp did arrange to have Mark Braden, a high-profile Republican election lawyer and former RNC general counsel, on hand in the state to advise Dendahl on how to plot legal strategy on postelection questions, including the Roosevelt County situation. So the state GOP isn't exactly flying solo in its quest to hunt up undervotes for George W. Bush. It is hard to believe the Bushies, if they wanted to, couldn't get the New Mexican Republicans to drop the undervote claim.

But hypocrisy is not the only issue raised by Republicans' undervote gambit, or even the most important. A bigger question is whether any party that cooked up a strategy as unstrategic as this one should be allowed to take over the nation's foreign policy. TRAVEL TOPIC. After all, there is no scenario in which New Mexico's five electoral votes will be necessary to get Bush over the magic 271-vote threshold. Even if Gore were to lose both New Mexico and Oregon (theoretically possible, but highly unlikely), the outcome of the race would still depend on Florida. There's been some speculation that Bush may want New Mexico's votes as insurance in case an elector or two decides to flip. The one clear, certain consequence of playing the undervote card in New Mexico (aside from making the GOP appear brazenly hypocritical) is to lend credence to the Democratic argument that Republican lawyers and spin persons in Florida are doing everything they can to stamp out there.

From Slate.com.

 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 12:14 PM
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What wont the Republicans do to hijack this election? There is no decency in that party.
 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 12:21 PM
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American and the rest of you bozos--Last I checked this was a travel forum not a POLITICAL FORUM. Fodor's had every right to delete the threads about politics because it violated their policy just as travel agents trying to drum up business here does. GET OVER IT PEOPLE!!! On to travel please....
 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 01:31 PM
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I've got a travel suggestion for all of you: Take a hike. This election is OVER. Even Haiti managed to elect a president in 24-hours. And we installed that government. Apparently the student is now educating the teacher.
 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 02:10 PM
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The Nasdaq had it second worst loss (22.9%, the worst was Oct. 87: 27.2% loss) today. Being a Mahattanite I could care a less who's sitting in the oval cubical at this point - it's nothing but a figure head position anyway. Anyone who believes that somehow having that moron from Texas as preisdient will bring back a moral upright image to the White House is a naive fool. And another wake call - a recession would most likely mean a weak dollar in Europe - in other words, it'll be more expensive to go to Europe.
 
Old Nov 30th, 2000 | 05:47 PM
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Although the tobacco and drug companies are doing well anticipating a bush presidency, most economists are nervous about eliminating the estate taxes and lowering the taxes and the wealthy and the effect that will have on the deficit. Welcome to the beginning of the second Bush recession.
 

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