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Old Mar 6th, 2013, 06:34 AM
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rdpesq, I would look further into the Hershey option. The last time I was there you couldn't do a factory tour. Instead, they had a cheesie ride with pictures telling the story of chocolate manufacturing. I agree with Dukey1 that the park is nothing special. They have some nice classic roller coasters but it is not a pretty park. It's all asphalt. You could ditch your time there and use it to spend the time in Williamsburg to go to Busch Gardens, a much nicer park IMHO. It would be hotter here but I think it would be better than a hot day without any shade.
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Old Mar 6th, 2013, 07:11 AM
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Thanks Birdie . . . I will look into the Four Seasons. We are also leaning toward doing Williamsburg instead of Gettysburg. We are checking on the Kingsmill Resort. Does anyone have experience? Thanks.
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Old Mar 6th, 2013, 07:21 AM
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I can tell you everything you need to know about Kingsmill, rdpesq. I think it would be a great place for your family.
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Old Mar 6th, 2013, 08:23 AM
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Birdie, we are looking for 2-bedrooms at Kingsmill. Any suggestion relating to room location, etc. Also, it has been suggested that we spend 4-days in DC, 3 days in Philadelphia and 3-days in Williamsburg. Does that sound right? Thanks
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There are 2 Northeast Regional trains that go to Williamsburg daily. The #67 leaves Washington at 7:30AM. The #95 leaves at 2:30PM. They each take about 3:45 to 4 hours to get to Williamsburg. You can drive it faster if you rent a car in Washington or BWI but this requires that you return the car where you rented it. Have you decided which airport you are flying to?
It would be easier to rent the car at BWI and fly out of there to go home.
I do agree that Williamsburg is a better choice when taking kids than Gettysburg and Hershey park.
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Old Mar 6th, 2013, 10:28 AM
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It looks like we are going to fly into Philadelphia and out of BWI. I think we are going to try to catch a train from Philadelphia to DC and rent a car to head to Williamsburg. Does anyone know the cost of the train fare? Is it Amtrak? Sorry, very little train activity in Southern California.
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Old Mar 6th, 2013, 10:38 AM
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You can depend on public transportation in Williamsburg if you stay at Kingsmill because there are shuttles to Colonial Williamsburg, Busch Gardens and Water Country. However, you'll be limited to dining on property if you don't eat in CW or BG. (I can't remember if the last shuttle time allows you to stay to eat dinner in CW) and it would be difficult to see other attractions like Jamestown, Yorktown, or the Colonial Parkway.

I don't see why it would be difficult to pick up a rental car at one airport and leave it at another. I'm doing it in Arizona. If it were me I'd come into DC, drive down I-95 to Williamsburg and then up the Eastern Shore to Philadelphia or the other way around. You'd break up the cities for the kids, giving them something different in the middle, and you'd be able to see some countryside away from I-95.

If you can, I would request a room on the top floor in Kingsmill (the buildings are 3 stories and the only negatives I hear about are noise in rooms above.) The river view rooms are wonderful and worth the extra money IMO BUT I am fairly certain there will be construction this summer behind the resort building and that can affect the river view rooms. If you want a river view room, ask them about the construction and request a building away from it. The deluxe room buildings are in a nice location and some may have a river view even though they aren't right on the river. The buildings are spread out and you'll have to walk, drive or call for a cart to get to restaurants etc but none of the walks are bad. Location of rooms doesn't matter because if you're near a restaurant you're distant to another or the shuttle stop or the pool etc.
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Old Mar 6th, 2013, 10:39 AM
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Yes, it's Amtrak.
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Old Mar 6th, 2013, 10:47 AM
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Sorry, rdpesq, I missed your post. Your itinerary is fine if you don't mind doing the two cities back to back. It means you have shorter travel distances.

Yes, it is Amtrak. Your stations will be 30th St Station in Philadelphia and Union Station in DC. It's fairly easy to plan a trip on their web site. The closer you get to your date the more the price will go up. I think you can sign up for emails to alert you on specials. It seems to me that sometimes they run family specials. I don't know, though, how quickly summer trains fill up.
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Old Mar 6th, 2013, 11:25 AM
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The fare to WBG on either Amtrak train is $33/adult from BWI or $29 from WAS. If you are a member of AAA you can get a 10% discount. Seniors over 62 get a 15% discount on advance purchase tickets. Once you have a reservation code you can pick up your tickets at a Quik-trak machine in a major station. amtrak.com
There are at least 6 Amtrak trains that arrive and depart from Los Angeles Union Station every day. The Sunset Limited/Texas Eagle only runs 3 times a week from LAX. There are several Amtrak buses that run from LAX to Bakersfield to connect with the San Joaquin trains.
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Old Mar 6th, 2013, 01:26 PM
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Thanks for the great advice. We now have a tentative plan. Is there anything to be gained in terms of site seeing or stops if we rented a car and drove between Philadelphia and DC vs taking the train?
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Old Mar 6th, 2013, 05:25 PM
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> Is there anything to be gained in terms of site seeing or stops if we rented a car and drove between Philadelphia and DC vs taking the train?

I almost always find the train far more enjoyable. You don't have to be alert, you don't need to worry about parking, you don't need to worry about the crazy one-way and other odd streets getting into or out of either city.... And the train stations in both cities are well-located.

Too, your time is limited enough that I'm not sure it would make much sense to try to stop anywhere en route.

Hope that helps!
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We did a two-week trip to Pennsylvania, New York and DC last summer. Despite the storm and the heat wave, we would do it all over again. However, we had only one day at Hershey, most of which was spent in the water park and we didn't get there until too late. I would suggest two days at either beach or water park/amusement park, or at minimum, staying in a hotel right next to the water park the night before so that you have a really long day there.

I have not been to Williamsburg so cannot compare. I did hear Busch Garden is great. I heard not so good things about the Six Flags near DC so we skipped that.

Regarding the rest of your trip, remember that history is fun and your kids are at a great age for all of this. (No teenage angst yet.) But, it can be tiring. Hopefully at least one of your hotels will have a pool or kid-friendly things right there to decompress.

We did the monument tour at dusk and actually did it backward, heading to Jefferson first, and ending at Lincoln, up the mall, somehow it was really relaxing.

Consider renting bikes in one of your destinations.

Battlefields are fascinating if you get a great guide and we did at Manassas (Bull Run).

We didn't particularly enjoy driving in central DC. Still, I wouldn't think twice about driving between any of your destinations and I don't like to drive as much as my husband does.

Click my name and Epic East Coast Adventure under trip reports if you want details.
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I'll bet your kids would love the train! I would recommend the train over driving between Phila. and DC even without kids, though.

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Old Mar 7th, 2013, 07:39 AM
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I agree with elberko, especially for your kids who don't take trains in your part of the world. Something different to mark the vacation.

There's so much to see at the different destinations you've mentioned. There is always more worth seeing off the beaten path, but the beaten path from Philadelphia to DC is Interstate 95 which is heavily trafficked both with travelers and commuters in the 3 cities you'll be dealing with.

Take the train.
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Old Mar 15th, 2013, 06:17 PM
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Given that they mentioned Hershey or another amusement park, I wouldn't take the train for that portion at least.
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