Traveling To DC?...How to Inaugurate an Impostor
Jan 21st, 2001, 03:06 PM
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Hi Wendy. The time frame in the movie was very well researched, and it dealt with the Cuban Missile Crisis, not the election.
Granted Nixon did not contest, he allowed the votes to be counted. That's precisely what was going on until January 6, when Congress certified the last counts.
Let's get on with it as I said. But be accurate.
Granted Nixon did not contest, he allowed the votes to be counted. That's precisely what was going on until January 6, when Congress certified the last counts.
Let's get on with it as I said. But be accurate.
Jan 21st, 2001, 08:32 PM
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Steve--Peace in Northern Ireland is good (I don't know much about that). For most economic things much of the thanks goes to Alan Greenspan, a Republican. Clinton went along with the Republican push to balance the budget and reduce the deficit; this was a major goal of the 1994 Republican Congress. "Soaring real estate prices" - is that good? "Soaring stock market" - not since March 2000. Clinton just floated along on top of a great economy, cheerfully taking credit for it, but he didn't do a lot to cause it unless HE invented the internet!
What about reforming Social Security and Medicare? Didn't he promise to do those things? But they are HARD to do, and if he tried and failed, that would be bad for his "legacy" - so he didn't even try.
What about reforming Social Security and Medicare? Didn't he promise to do those things? But they are HARD to do, and if he tried and failed, that would be bad for his "legacy" - so he didn't even try.
Jan 21st, 2001, 09:55 PM
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Dumbya has already demonstrated that he has the GOP distract-and-redirect technique down pat. He lost no time in nominating the most extreme people he could find for Cabinet postions, knowing that the public, the media and the politicians would be outraged and completely focused on the social issues that the GOP hypocritically claims to care about.
In the meantime, while everyone is nice and distracted, OPEC cuts oil production, Dumbya pushes his corporate tax reduction, and all the wealthy GOP faithful enrich themselves further with taxpayer subsidies. They don't want to PAY taxes, but they certainly never shrink from allowing taxpayers to finance, fund, or bail them out. The Bush family is masterful at it: stadiums, savings and loans, you name it, the taxpayers subsidized it. And Dumbya will make sure that taxpayers subsidize all his cronies too.
But hey, it's easy to get away with all that pocket-lining when everyone is focused on your extremist nominees, isn't it?
In the meantime, while everyone is nice and distracted, OPEC cuts oil production, Dumbya pushes his corporate tax reduction, and all the wealthy GOP faithful enrich themselves further with taxpayer subsidies. They don't want to PAY taxes, but they certainly never shrink from allowing taxpayers to finance, fund, or bail them out. The Bush family is masterful at it: stadiums, savings and loans, you name it, the taxpayers subsidized it. And Dumbya will make sure that taxpayers subsidize all his cronies too.
But hey, it's easy to get away with all that pocket-lining when everyone is focused on your extremist nominees, isn't it?
Jan 22nd, 2001, 03:59 AM
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BUSH GAVE a passable speech, filled with comforting cliches and meaningless metaphors. He struck all the proper notes for a new president who claims got be a “uniter, not a divider,” but he did nothing to address yawning gap that has emerged so far between his rhetoric of reconciliation and his practice as a hardened partisan.
Bush enters office as the weakest first-day president in at least a century. He lost the popular vote by a considerable margin and probably would have lost the Electoral College vote had the Supreme Court not intervened to put a stop to the vote-counting in Florida. He has virtually no mandate for his campaign programs, relatively little clout in Congress and his manner of winning has inspired a passionate degree of resentment among African-Americans and others who believe the election to have been stolen. (How appropriate that the oath of office was administered by Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist, who more than any other, made it possible.)
Bush had the eyes of the entire nation watching him on this snowy Saturday, and he might have tried to speak directly to his special circumstances as an accidental president. Instead he gave a virtual reprise of his convention speech, laced with inserts that sounded as if they came from his father’s forgettable inaugural. We heard all about “justice,” “freedom,” “democracy, “opportunity” “community,” “civility” even storm-directing angels. The only red meat for the right can in the form of promised tax cuts, weighted toward the wealthy and more money for the military. More significantly, Bush did nothing that specifically addressed the concerns of so many millions of Americans who believe that Bush’s means of entry through the back door of the Supreme Court into the Oval Office in effect disenfranchises their voices and their votes.
Bush enters office as the weakest first-day president in at least a century. He lost the popular vote by a considerable margin and probably would have lost the Electoral College vote had the Supreme Court not intervened to put a stop to the vote-counting in Florida. He has virtually no mandate for his campaign programs, relatively little clout in Congress and his manner of winning has inspired a passionate degree of resentment among African-Americans and others who believe the election to have been stolen. (How appropriate that the oath of office was administered by Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist, who more than any other, made it possible.)
Bush had the eyes of the entire nation watching him on this snowy Saturday, and he might have tried to speak directly to his special circumstances as an accidental president. Instead he gave a virtual reprise of his convention speech, laced with inserts that sounded as if they came from his father’s forgettable inaugural. We heard all about “justice,” “freedom,” “democracy, “opportunity” “community,” “civility” even storm-directing angels. The only red meat for the right can in the form of promised tax cuts, weighted toward the wealthy and more money for the military. More significantly, Bush did nothing that specifically addressed the concerns of so many millions of Americans who believe that Bush’s means of entry through the back door of the Supreme Court into the Oval Office in effect disenfranchises their voices and their votes.
Jan 22nd, 2001, 12:15 PM
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Looks like abortion is the latest distraction now. What will W and friends be doing behind closed doors while everyone argues about this issue? Make sure that oil production is cut again to increase the price of crude for all those Texas good-ole-boy campaign financiers? Slip a tax cut for the wealthy through Congress while everyone is debating abortion? What better way to divert attention away from activites that you don't want anyone to notice than to create a distraction?
Jan 22nd, 2001, 06:07 PM
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I came by this board tonight to look for tips/advise for an upcoming Spring trip my husband, kids and I are planning for Hawaii when I spotted this thread and had to see what it was all about.
It is interesting to read the responses. And what has happened in the past 2 months has had a large impact on many regular Americans. It sure did with our family. My Dad is 71 years old and a retired high school principal who was never interested in politics in his life. Sure he voted and encouraged us kids to vote but that was it. This 2000 election has just galvanized him! He's become very, very active with speaking out against what happened in Florida with that Katherine Harris and Bush's brother. And the Supreme Court ruling infuriated him like nothing I have ever seen before in my life. Dad went by train with a group of local people to Washington to protest this weekend! Unbelievable if you knew my Dad. He's such a quiet calm man. I never thought I would see him all stirred up by a presidental election. He has certainly convinced our family that this election was a sham. He did that by the overwhelming evidence he gave us in article after acticle from newspapers across the country he found on the internet. The web sites he says are very useful are these: http://www.bushreport.com/
http://www.buzzflash.com/
http://www.onlinejournal.com/
It is interesting to read the responses. And what has happened in the past 2 months has had a large impact on many regular Americans. It sure did with our family. My Dad is 71 years old and a retired high school principal who was never interested in politics in his life. Sure he voted and encouraged us kids to vote but that was it. This 2000 election has just galvanized him! He's become very, very active with speaking out against what happened in Florida with that Katherine Harris and Bush's brother. And the Supreme Court ruling infuriated him like nothing I have ever seen before in my life. Dad went by train with a group of local people to Washington to protest this weekend! Unbelievable if you knew my Dad. He's such a quiet calm man. I never thought I would see him all stirred up by a presidental election. He has certainly convinced our family that this election was a sham. He did that by the overwhelming evidence he gave us in article after acticle from newspapers across the country he found on the internet. The web sites he says are very useful are these: http://www.bushreport.com/
http://www.buzzflash.com/
http://www.onlinejournal.com/
Jan 24th, 2001, 07:10 PM
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Oh happy day! I feel so much better being an American. Bill Clinton made me sick! I was traveling in France during "Monica Gate" and was embarressed to be an American. Imagine sitting in your hotel room in Paris and you turn on CNN to see Bill and Monica. I never thought in my lifetime I would feel that way. Praise the Lord for this blessing of a new era! And no I am not an old "fuddy-duddy" - I am in my early 30's, a Christian and very proud of it!
Jan 25th, 2001, 01:27 AM
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Yes, old Dubya with his DUI arrests, his failed businesses, even when propped up by influential Dear Old Dad and taxpayer money, and his record of killing the poor and disenfranchised in Texas really inspire admiration on the world stage!!! Not to mention his sham of a selected presidency....yes, dignity, honor and democracy....we're the laughing stock of the world. And don't think Dubya won't use that to his advantage when some Third World despot (probably funded by the CIA) declares war on Western Civilization. Good press, you know. Worked for Dad, and heaven knows, he has yet to veer from dad's strategies.
Jan 27th, 2001, 12:06 PM
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A+ is very much dishonest. By Florida law, there were two machine recounts of the election. A dishonest Florida Supreme Court tried to steal the election from Bush and thus we had the macabre scenes of the chad votes being studied for "voter intent."
Wendy is most wise. There isn't much difference between the parties anyway. That's why I voted for Buchanan and my left-wing pal voted for Nader. Big Corporations run the Republicans and, thanks to Clintonism, the big corporations can get the Democrats to betray Big Labor in a pinch like when Clinton pushed for NAFTA.
As for the fellow who whined about Republican hatred for multi-culturism, nothing could be further from the truth. The Republican powers, especially George Dumbya, regularly kowtows to the assorted freaks and non-Americans who are unfortunately allowed a voice in the running of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson's republic. Dumbya is totally at odds with his base on the multi-culturism issue. Though they'd never admit it, most Republicans want to kick the wetbacks of Latin America back below the Rio Grande. Most Republicans don't like blacks and move as far away as possible from them, thus America's suburban sprawl. Most Republicans view homosexuals with contempt. Most Republicans think feminism had gone way too far and most Republican men would bridle at taking any orders from women. Thus military enlistments are down due to the feminism of the military. Most Republicans would lie and say what I've just written is wrong but I know better.
Most Republicans are very uncomfortable with the demographic changes in this country.
Finally, let me say that 25,000 more Floridians who showed up at the polls in November wanted to vote for Gore rather than for Dumbya. But, as all studies point out, Democrats have a much higher number of stupid voters than do the Republicans. Anyone honest with themselves know this is true. Gore lost because his Florida gang of nitwits and degenerates couldn't figure out how to vote correctly. It's as simple as that.
Wendy is most wise. There isn't much difference between the parties anyway. That's why I voted for Buchanan and my left-wing pal voted for Nader. Big Corporations run the Republicans and, thanks to Clintonism, the big corporations can get the Democrats to betray Big Labor in a pinch like when Clinton pushed for NAFTA.
As for the fellow who whined about Republican hatred for multi-culturism, nothing could be further from the truth. The Republican powers, especially George Dumbya, regularly kowtows to the assorted freaks and non-Americans who are unfortunately allowed a voice in the running of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson's republic. Dumbya is totally at odds with his base on the multi-culturism issue. Though they'd never admit it, most Republicans want to kick the wetbacks of Latin America back below the Rio Grande. Most Republicans don't like blacks and move as far away as possible from them, thus America's suburban sprawl. Most Republicans view homosexuals with contempt. Most Republicans think feminism had gone way too far and most Republican men would bridle at taking any orders from women. Thus military enlistments are down due to the feminism of the military. Most Republicans would lie and say what I've just written is wrong but I know better.
Most Republicans are very uncomfortable with the demographic changes in this country.
Finally, let me say that 25,000 more Floridians who showed up at the polls in November wanted to vote for Gore rather than for Dumbya. But, as all studies point out, Democrats have a much higher number of stupid voters than do the Republicans. Anyone honest with themselves know this is true. Gore lost because his Florida gang of nitwits and degenerates couldn't figure out how to vote correctly. It's as simple as that.
Jan 27th, 2001, 05:32 PM
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Whoever Van is not only lacks credibility, but a brain. Enough said. Even his candidate Pat Buchanan went on record as saying he knew he received many Gore votes.
I heard Scalia say today that even they (the SCt) doesn't always get it right. At least 500 law professors across the country agree. Ever heard the expression Cert Denied? That would have been consistent with their philosophy of allowing state courts to interpret state law. The Sct 5's true partisan colors came out in their opinion which basically allowed for hand counts but ran out the clock. However, it would take a little more legal training for Van to understand this. Maybe you could read the Supreme Court opinion and then comment.
I heard Scalia say today that even they (the SCt) doesn't always get it right. At least 500 law professors across the country agree. Ever heard the expression Cert Denied? That would have been consistent with their philosophy of allowing state courts to interpret state law. The Sct 5's true partisan colors came out in their opinion which basically allowed for hand counts but ran out the clock. However, it would take a little more legal training for Van to understand this. Maybe you could read the Supreme Court opinion and then comment.
Jan 27th, 2001, 05:54 PM
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Florida state law says that the Florida Supreme Court has the authority in challenged election certification matters to "provide any relief appropriate under the circumstances" such as the manual recount it ordered on December 8. Yet the U.S. Supreme Court stopped the
recount and Justice Scalia wrote, unbelievably, that counting these votes would 'threaten irreparable harm to the petitioner [Bush]...by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of his election. In other words, although the election had not yet been decided, the absolutely incredible Scalia was presupposing that Bush had won the election -- indeed had a right to win it -- and any recount that showed Gore got more votes in Florida than Bush could 'cloud' Bush's presidency."
Benjamin Franklin warned us that: "Those who would give up essential liberty to
purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
One wonders if Rehnquist, Scalia, Thomas, O'Connor, and Kennedy have become so accustomed to the trappings of absolute judicial power that they have discarded the restraining principles that our patriot founders suffered for in the American Revolution 225 years ago.
recount and Justice Scalia wrote, unbelievably, that counting these votes would 'threaten irreparable harm to the petitioner [Bush]...by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of his election. In other words, although the election had not yet been decided, the absolutely incredible Scalia was presupposing that Bush had won the election -- indeed had a right to win it -- and any recount that showed Gore got more votes in Florida than Bush could 'cloud' Bush's presidency."
Benjamin Franklin warned us that: "Those who would give up essential liberty to
purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
One wonders if Rehnquist, Scalia, Thomas, O'Connor, and Kennedy have become so accustomed to the trappings of absolute judicial power that they have discarded the restraining principles that our patriot founders suffered for in the American Revolution 225 years ago.
Jan 27th, 2001, 09:35 PM
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Jan 27th, 2001, 09:39 PM
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The day broke cold and rainy, about 35 degrees, and by the time we got off the Metro at Federal Plaza, the temperature had dropped to 21. On top of that, the rain was now mixed with snow, sleet and hail. If I was George W. Bush and I believed in bad omens, I would be worried.
I would also be worried that at the Secret Service checkpoint we passed through at Federal Plaza to get to the parade route, they looked us up and down and said, "You can go ahead, ma'am. You too, sir." The hand-held metal detectors that have been passed up and down my body every other time in my life when I entered an area that the President was going to be in sat unused on the tables. They didn't even examine my cell phone.
Maybe that's why W. never got out of the car except on the last block where the VIP ticket holders were.
But it's more likely he didn't get out of the car because of the thousands upon thousands of chanting protesters lining the parade route. And I'm not talking Save the Whales protesters, who sit in a circle holding hands and singing Cumbaya. I'm not talking Jesse Jackson protesters (bless their hearts), who stand shoulder to shoulder swaying in time and singing "We shall overcome." I'm talking angry-as-hell, fist-waving, invective-spitting protesters. Shit, I wouldn't have gotten out of the car, either. On the other hand, I wouldn't have stolen an election in the first place.
Ladies and gentlemen, America is pissed off.
I'm told that CNN and the other news networks were reporting "some protesters," estimating the number at a few thousand. Well, I was there, and I'm here to tell you the networks are full of shit. As we made our way down Pennsylvania Avenue looking for the best spot to dig in, we saw that the entire opposite side of the street as far as we could see in either direction had been completely surrendered to protesters. And there were so many of them, they had started to form in force on our side of the street as well.
They held signs that said, "His Fraudulency," "Shame," "You are not the President," and "Illegitimate." They chanted things like, "George Bush, go away. Racist, sexist, anti-gay," and "Hail to the Thief."
We finally settled in at the corner of Pennsylvania Avenue and 14th Street, catty corner across from the Willard Hotel, two blocks from the White House. The Crawford, Texas High School Band was there, playing Yellow Rose of Texas and other songs, but you could make out only a few notes over the din of the protesters.
At first, the Bush supporters in the crowd tried to shout the protesters down, but as the day wore on and the protesters thickened, the Bush supporters began to realize how drastically outnumbered they were, outnumbered, in fact, by about 7 or 8 to 1. (I know, I couldn't believe it either. You didn't hear that on the news either, did you?)
I would also be worried that at the Secret Service checkpoint we passed through at Federal Plaza to get to the parade route, they looked us up and down and said, "You can go ahead, ma'am. You too, sir." The hand-held metal detectors that have been passed up and down my body every other time in my life when I entered an area that the President was going to be in sat unused on the tables. They didn't even examine my cell phone.
Maybe that's why W. never got out of the car except on the last block where the VIP ticket holders were.
But it's more likely he didn't get out of the car because of the thousands upon thousands of chanting protesters lining the parade route. And I'm not talking Save the Whales protesters, who sit in a circle holding hands and singing Cumbaya. I'm not talking Jesse Jackson protesters (bless their hearts), who stand shoulder to shoulder swaying in time and singing "We shall overcome." I'm talking angry-as-hell, fist-waving, invective-spitting protesters. Shit, I wouldn't have gotten out of the car, either. On the other hand, I wouldn't have stolen an election in the first place.
Ladies and gentlemen, America is pissed off.
I'm told that CNN and the other news networks were reporting "some protesters," estimating the number at a few thousand. Well, I was there, and I'm here to tell you the networks are full of shit. As we made our way down Pennsylvania Avenue looking for the best spot to dig in, we saw that the entire opposite side of the street as far as we could see in either direction had been completely surrendered to protesters. And there were so many of them, they had started to form in force on our side of the street as well.
They held signs that said, "His Fraudulency," "Shame," "You are not the President," and "Illegitimate." They chanted things like, "George Bush, go away. Racist, sexist, anti-gay," and "Hail to the Thief."
We finally settled in at the corner of Pennsylvania Avenue and 14th Street, catty corner across from the Willard Hotel, two blocks from the White House. The Crawford, Texas High School Band was there, playing Yellow Rose of Texas and other songs, but you could make out only a few notes over the din of the protesters.
At first, the Bush supporters in the crowd tried to shout the protesters down, but as the day wore on and the protesters thickened, the Bush supporters began to realize how drastically outnumbered they were, outnumbered, in fact, by about 7 or 8 to 1. (I know, I couldn't believe it either. You didn't hear that on the news either, did you?)
Jan 27th, 2001, 09:41 PM
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Gradually the Republicans in the crowd grew quieter in their opposition, and eventually they shut up altogether, contenting themselves with waving whenever they saw another Bush supporter go by. You could spot the Bush supporters, by the way, the same way you could spot them at the GOP convention in Philadelphia. Men in cashmere overcoats and cowboy boots and flashing gold watches, and women in fur and diamonds? Republicans.
The Bush organizers were wrong about one other thing, by the way: You can't wear a tuxedo and cowboy boots without it looking podunk. These guys looked like Woody from Toy Story. (Hey, if they can call my boy Bill a cracker, I can call them podunk.)
The parade was supposed to get underway at 2:00, but it actually got started closer to 3:15. The wait for the motorcade was a long one, and the weather only got worse. It's one thing to stand out in the street for an hour in 20-degree weather, and it's another thing to stand out in the rain and sleet and snow and hail. But to stand out in 20-degree weather, in the rain and sleet and snow and hail, for four hours, well that's something else again.
But that didn't deter anybody. We didn't see any of the protesters leave in the four-plus hours we waited for King George to pass. All we saw was the crowd of protesters getting thicker and thicker. So thick, in fact, that in front of the crowd directly across from us, the police got a little worried and added SWAT guys three-deep to the already three-deep line of D.C. police standing between the protesters and the Avenue.
But there were no clashes. And that is a credit to the protesters. There were so many on that side of the street, they could easily have stormed the cops and the SWAT guys and rushed out into the street, but they stood peacefully where they were.
The one thing the protesters were guilty of was booing a platoon of Marines that filed out to line the Avenue. Don't boo our fighting boys, guys. They put their lives on the line to keep our asses safe.
Finally at around 3:30 or 4:00 (I'm not sure of the exact time; my friend was shivering so hard I couldn't read his watch) the Presidential motorcade approached.
Boy, the protesters were loud before, but you should have heard them now. Like an animal about to attack, the low growl turned quickly to a roar. If anybody was cheering the new Commander in Chief, I couldn't hear them. All I heard was boos.
As if by some mutual agreement (which of course could not have been because the protesters on opposite sides of the street could not communicate), everybody fell in to chanting "Hail to the Thief." Most were shaking their fists in rhythm with the chant, but one or two hands (I admit it, one of the hands was mine) extended a middle finger. Like a wave at a baseball game, the middle finger came up on one fist, then another and another, until every protester in sight was flipping the motorcade the bird.
When King George's limo finally came by, he was faced with thousands and thousands of pissed-off Americans, flipping him off. God Bless America, huh?
I can't say for sure how he felt about this, because the little wussy (substitute the letter "p" for "w" as you see fit) wouldn't even roll down the window. He just sailed by like the King in his carriage. I'm told that he walked the last block to the White House, once he was inside the Secret Service bubble, where the street was lined only with paying VIP supporters.
But like the hated King at court, ambitious office-seekers and maids-in-waiting fawning over him, it looks real rosy inside the bubble, but just beyond the gates, the real people are waiting, and he's going to have to face us sometime.
If he wanted to know how America feels about him, he should have rolled down his window.
The Bush organizers were wrong about one other thing, by the way: You can't wear a tuxedo and cowboy boots without it looking podunk. These guys looked like Woody from Toy Story. (Hey, if they can call my boy Bill a cracker, I can call them podunk.)
The parade was supposed to get underway at 2:00, but it actually got started closer to 3:15. The wait for the motorcade was a long one, and the weather only got worse. It's one thing to stand out in the street for an hour in 20-degree weather, and it's another thing to stand out in the rain and sleet and snow and hail. But to stand out in 20-degree weather, in the rain and sleet and snow and hail, for four hours, well that's something else again.
But that didn't deter anybody. We didn't see any of the protesters leave in the four-plus hours we waited for King George to pass. All we saw was the crowd of protesters getting thicker and thicker. So thick, in fact, that in front of the crowd directly across from us, the police got a little worried and added SWAT guys three-deep to the already three-deep line of D.C. police standing between the protesters and the Avenue.
But there were no clashes. And that is a credit to the protesters. There were so many on that side of the street, they could easily have stormed the cops and the SWAT guys and rushed out into the street, but they stood peacefully where they were.
The one thing the protesters were guilty of was booing a platoon of Marines that filed out to line the Avenue. Don't boo our fighting boys, guys. They put their lives on the line to keep our asses safe.
Finally at around 3:30 or 4:00 (I'm not sure of the exact time; my friend was shivering so hard I couldn't read his watch) the Presidential motorcade approached.
Boy, the protesters were loud before, but you should have heard them now. Like an animal about to attack, the low growl turned quickly to a roar. If anybody was cheering the new Commander in Chief, I couldn't hear them. All I heard was boos.
As if by some mutual agreement (which of course could not have been because the protesters on opposite sides of the street could not communicate), everybody fell in to chanting "Hail to the Thief." Most were shaking their fists in rhythm with the chant, but one or two hands (I admit it, one of the hands was mine) extended a middle finger. Like a wave at a baseball game, the middle finger came up on one fist, then another and another, until every protester in sight was flipping the motorcade the bird.
When King George's limo finally came by, he was faced with thousands and thousands of pissed-off Americans, flipping him off. God Bless America, huh?
I can't say for sure how he felt about this, because the little wussy (substitute the letter "p" for "w" as you see fit) wouldn't even roll down the window. He just sailed by like the King in his carriage. I'm told that he walked the last block to the White House, once he was inside the Secret Service bubble, where the street was lined only with paying VIP supporters.
But like the hated King at court, ambitious office-seekers and maids-in-waiting fawning over him, it looks real rosy inside the bubble, but just beyond the gates, the real people are waiting, and he's going to have to face us sometime.
If he wanted to know how America feels about him, he should have rolled down his window.
Jan 27th, 2001, 09:51 PM
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Faulty voting machines gave us an impostor for president.
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Jan 28th, 2001, 12:21 PM
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The departing White House Staffers trashed the offices in the West Wing! That shows how much RESPECT for the Office of the Presidency Clinton and his cohorts had!! Oral sex in the Oval Office and departing staffers doing malicious damage to offices!!! What a sorry bunch of losers you DEMORATS are!! Quit your damn whining and get a life!!!
