The worst of the worst
Nov 24th, 1999, 04:52 AM
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Noah:
Actually Sam Diego is not in one of the major earthquake zones. There has never been an earthquake in San Diego that has resulted in injury or any damage. The San Andreas fault is on the other side of the mountains.
I won't add any places to the worst list as it is all a matter of opinion. On a positive note, I think that San Diego is second to none as a great place to live. In spite of a few problems I also think that the San Francisco Bay area is an excellent place as well.
Actually Sam Diego is not in one of the major earthquake zones. There has never been an earthquake in San Diego that has resulted in injury or any damage. The San Andreas fault is on the other side of the mountains.
I won't add any places to the worst list as it is all a matter of opinion. On a positive note, I think that San Diego is second to none as a great place to live. In spite of a few problems I also think that the San Francisco Bay area is an excellent place as well.
Nov 24th, 1999, 05:13 AM
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There are lots of great holes to live in but I would have to say that lower class suburbs in general really get on my nerves, you know, places that are supported by our tax dollars.Theres one or two in every metro area. Cities are hip again and thats why NY and LA have been spared our ire.
Nov 24th, 1999, 05:19 AM
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I agree with Nancy Tate that Seattle is way overrated, On a recent business trip from where I live in suburban San Francisco, I expected it to be as I've read and heard, but the restaurants are so-so at best and the downtown is not nearly as vibrant as San Francisco. It rained and the people there are not chic and too "centric" about the place.
I also agree with Nancy that LA has come full circle( well, the westside anyway), love that Getty Center
I also agree with Nancy that LA has come full circle( well, the westside anyway), love that Getty Center
Nov 24th, 1999, 06:35 AM
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Well I think that the San Jose area is a an unfavorable to live, I could never want to live there. Its too boring, and actually much more overrated than Seattle( I live in Berkeley) You hear everyday about how great Silicon Valley is( and it is an economic dynamo) but as a place to live, no thanks, the streets are extinct of pedestrians and even downtown Oakland is more exciting, and everything dies at 6PM. You people down in the south bay are so lucky to be near SF.
Nov 24th, 1999, 06:48 AM
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10 places I would never live in
1 Orange County,CA sun tanned GOP-lovers
2 Salt Lake City, UT," familiesr4ever"
3 West LA, sun-tanned democrat-lovers
4 San Jose, overrated dot.com capital
5 Seattle Overrated everything
6 The South, bible belt hypocrites
7 San Francisco Bay, " whats a bible?"
8 Chicago, " brrrrrr"
9 New York, 17 million bone collecters
10 Washington DC, " you mean drive out of the beltway? ick"
This is why I live in Canada
1 Orange County,CA sun tanned GOP-lovers
2 Salt Lake City, UT," familiesr4ever"
3 West LA, sun-tanned democrat-lovers
4 San Jose, overrated dot.com capital
5 Seattle Overrated everything
6 The South, bible belt hypocrites
7 San Francisco Bay, " whats a bible?"
8 Chicago, " brrrrrr"
9 New York, 17 million bone collecters
10 Washington DC, " you mean drive out of the beltway? ick"
This is why I live in Canada
Nov 24th, 1999, 07:14 AM
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Sharon: As I posted elsewhere, I share your sentiments on Detroit!
Sam: Regarding your comment on NYC: AMEN!!!
Loa: ..."cities are hip again.."??? Says who? I guess they are if you love high prices, rude and self-important people, abundant crime, sanity-rattling traffic, and overwhelmed public infrastructures... No matter how much positive propaganda drips out of NYC, I'd sooner go to a prison camp than spend any time (let alone vacation time!) there! I also unfortunately have to travel to Chicago on business occasionally, and the happiest part of those trips for me is when the plane takes off to get me out of there...
Canadabob: I liked your equal-opportunity jabs!
Here's my list:
Anywhere north or east of Pennsylvania
Seattle
San Francisco Bay Area
Detroit
Chicago
Atlanta
Miami
Sam: Regarding your comment on NYC: AMEN!!!
Loa: ..."cities are hip again.."??? Says who? I guess they are if you love high prices, rude and self-important people, abundant crime, sanity-rattling traffic, and overwhelmed public infrastructures... No matter how much positive propaganda drips out of NYC, I'd sooner go to a prison camp than spend any time (let alone vacation time!) there! I also unfortunately have to travel to Chicago on business occasionally, and the happiest part of those trips for me is when the plane takes off to get me out of there...
Canadabob: I liked your equal-opportunity jabs!
Here's my list:
Anywhere north or east of Pennsylvania
Seattle
San Francisco Bay Area
Detroit
Chicago
Atlanta
Miami
Nov 24th, 1999, 07:31 AM
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Regarding the previous posting, that's one of the reasons I love cities: a self-selecting populace which enjoys challenge and differences. Cityfolks learn to live with others and with hardships to reap the culture and excitement and rewards. If I had to choose a worst it would be any suburb over an hour's drive from a big city.
Nov 24th, 1999, 08:01 AM
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Cities have always been hip and enjoy a cultural and ethnic diversity that cannot be found in Most suburban areas. I have been an urbanite my entire life and do not intend to change, I want my kids to live the city life like I did. To be around all people and be exposed to the world. The crime rate is way down and has been declining for over a decade in most cities. The numbers on crime in america's inner-cities cant be argued against by opinion. Renaissance has taken hold in once written off neighborhoods.
Rich, youre missing out on most of America by alienating yourself from the excitement of our urban areas.
Please take note that crime is down, whether that goes along with your stereotypes or not, Crime is WAY down.
Rich, youre missing out on most of America by alienating yourself from the excitement of our urban areas.
Please take note that crime is down, whether that goes along with your stereotypes or not, Crime is WAY down.
Nov 24th, 1999, 04:19 PM
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If you want to live in a "small town," the only way to do it is live in a Big City. The neighborhoods in cities are as large and as intimate as any small town. I live in San Francisco and three neighbors on my block have a key to my home. I know the name of the beat cop who walks the streets here, and SEE him often because I take walks at night. The guy at the corner grocery store gives candy to kids, chats with everyone, and let's me pay him later if I'm low on cash. I grew up in the suburbs - lived in them for 18 boring, dreary, unfriendly, violent years. If I had children, I would raise them in a city; never a suburb. Read the paper. Look at the news. The violence is in the suburbs, not in the cities.
Nov 24th, 1999, 04:57 PM
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My two votes for worst have to be Philadelphia and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Philly is a dirty, overpriced sow's ear and Harrisburg is as close to a completely dead town as I've ever seen (short of Gary, Indiana). Pittsburgh, the place we thought was going to be a pit, was actually filled with things to do.
Nov 24th, 1999, 08:55 PM
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To Sam @xxx:
I don't think I've read a mean spirited note in this thread. It's an interesting question. I don't like the color brown but I sure hope no one is offended if I mention that at someone else's request. I've lived in several cities I wouldn't recommend to friends, but they all have their own good sides. Including Philadelphia.
When people get so brainwashed about something that they can no longer distinguish its good versus bad qualities, they get difficult to deal with.
I enjoyed canadabob's (partially tongue in cheek I presume) 'sweeping generalizations'. He obviously lives in Quebec where the American wannabe sentiment is palpable.
I don't think I've read a mean spirited note in this thread. It's an interesting question. I don't like the color brown but I sure hope no one is offended if I mention that at someone else's request. I've lived in several cities I wouldn't recommend to friends, but they all have their own good sides. Including Philadelphia.
When people get so brainwashed about something that they can no longer distinguish its good versus bad qualities, they get difficult to deal with.
I enjoyed canadabob's (partially tongue in cheek I presume) 'sweeping generalizations'. He obviously lives in Quebec where the American wannabe sentiment is palpable.
Nov 25th, 1999, 07:40 AM
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We planned a family reunion 1/2 way between Chicago and Pittsburgh. We chose Sturgis Michigan because it was an easy destination for everyone to reach. Big mistake - deadest place on the planet!!! Springfield Illinois is the most tedious hellhole I have actually lived in. Yeah, Sprigfield takes the cake.
