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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 05:16 AM
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Some good pics and a slideshow on the exhibit...

http://slate.msn.com/id/2113472/
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 05:22 AM
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This morning's NY Times includes a series of letters to the editor about The Gates, both pro and con. One in particular written by a Marc Wallace of NYC impressed me:
"Perhaps the most glorious pleasure enjoyed by those observing and strolling on a Saturday afternoon in Central Park trhough Jeanne-Claude and Christo's 'Gates' (they would likely be the first to agree) is not so much the beauty and ingenuity of their work, but the magnificent canvas of diversity that is the people of New York City.
"It's watching the people watching 'The Gates' that makes this experience so seminal."
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 05:36 AM
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That's every day in New York City, thankfully.

And, frankly, I haven't noticed much "diversity" among the gates viewers (including this morning - what a beautiful day here!). Seems like a disproportionately high number of middle-aged white people are impressed by the sickly sea of "vomit orange."

One thing if for sure, no one's opinion is going to be altered by this internet forum.

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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 05:40 AM
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the draw....much ado about nothing in my book! I'm much too practical to enjoy these peoples "art". (Now, where's my shield, 'cause I expect a few pigeons!). OSB.
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 05:41 AM
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Late last night, I enjoyed watching and listening to Michael Kimmelmans video review on The Gates: An Appraisal in the Times.
As if we needed to be more homesick
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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Hey, OldSouthernBelle, there's absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting to see The Gates. It's your decision based on your tastes. Fine. You'll get no flack from me. And, in return, I expect that you'll not condemn me for being enthused about it.
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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Christo is bold and creates works of art which have the sole purpose of simply 'being'.

Look at the variety of opinions! Fantastic. I loved everything he's done of which I'm aware. Huge, bright, 3D, and finite.

NYC is lucky to have it.

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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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Miami never appreciated Cristo's art in 1983, and surely never imagined what that single event would do to the city and its world-wide image. If you had known Miami then you'd really laugh at how far it has come. It was quite a derelict city with mostly retirees (although it's not a derelict city there are plenty of retirees). What I like about the Gates is that maybe this is the turning point when people will go to NY not to experience 9-11 but for this lively new look at the city and its originality. I only wish it were there longer. 16 days is not long enough. I won't be able to make it.
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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TandooriGirl (and others unable to visit The Gates), check out the slide show and other information on:
http://www.nytimes.com/thegates
It can't equal being there, but you'll get somewhat of an idea of what it's like.
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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We did just get an e mail from our goddaughter who reports she is on here way to the gates from her ever so liberal college on the East coast. Although she is going to see it, she reports her friends who live in New York say it looks like Central Park is under construction.

She thinks she is cynical youth! Having passed long ago through the cynical youth period, I'd love the opportunity to see the gates!
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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"One thing if for sure, no one's opinion is going to be altered by this internet forum."


Of course not, and what's more no one's opinion is likely to be altered by witnessing the "event" itself either. What's interesting is that those who posted before the event putting it down end up hating the result. And those who posted before saying it could be great for the city, have loved it. Is any one surprised by this. Most people's minds were made up before going. It isn't about the "art" itself. It's all about the concept. If you think the concept is stupid, you won't like it. If you think the concept is great, you probably will love it.

As a theatre performer I totally understand the idea of a "fleeting" art exhibit. Friends always want video tapes of our productions. I think the brilliant thing about theatre is it happens once, and then it's over, only to exist in the minds of those who experienced it. This is the same sort of thing. I doubt that the actual orange fabric and gates would impress me, but the idea that all this work and all these people came together to creat and then experience something so huge and yet so temporary overwhelms me.
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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I feel so lucky to live in NYC and to have a direct view of the Park from my apartment windows. I saw the Pont Neuf in Paris when it was "wrapped" and the experience stayed with me long afterwards. I believe it will be the same with the Gates. I walk my son to school through the Park every day, and we witnessed the transformation over several weeks. Yes, I wanted to love it, but I can honestly say it has surpassed my expectations. On saturday evening, as the wind rose, I stood listening for a minute, and the sound of the panels waving in the wind made me feel I was on a sailboat in the Caribbean. The whole experience has been magical, and I am happy to share it with everyone, native and tourist alike.
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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It's a great experience. The bright orange gates set against the dead nature of Central Park is really neat. If you've ever been to the Great Wall, it's alike in the way that at any point all you see is the endlessness of it.
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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Patrick, I do so agree with everything you said, even as far as videos of the theater productions of which I have been part. I have them all, but never want to see them. The memory, the feeling, the emotion are not something that can be can be captured on film. I love hearing about the teamwork and camraderie of the folks involved in Christo's projects. Their enthusiasm infects those allow themselves to be influenced by it.
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Well, I may not be enthused about the 'gates' ( they look more like arbors to me) BUT I have viewed alittle of Maggi's photography. Her work in impressive! I may actually like her photograhs of 'the gates' more than if I had seen them in person! ...Maybe we'll see soon!

Howard: Whatever floats your boat! Thanks, Belle.
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Old Feb 15th, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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Patrick - I think your comments are a great summation of the varying opinions on this forum. It seems that very few people changed their preconceived idea of the Gates even after their visit. You are right, their inital thoughts on this exhibit didn't change.

I am very jealous of those of you who get to see the Gates whether you like it or not. We will be in New York in about a month, would have loved it have been there now. And for those of you who feel it's disruptive, after all it's only for two weeks.

Patrick, I also agree with your ideas of the emotions tied in with a production or "fleeting" art. We also have a cabinet full of theatre productions that either myself or my girls were in. But we never watch them and the few times we have, it just isn't the same as experiencing it.
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Old Feb 16th, 2005 | 05:06 AM
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I have lived in or near NYC most of my life. I entered the Gates through busy, very crowded Columbus Circle last Sunday afternoon. I had no idea how I'd respond to it, but I actually had a wonderful time watching all kinds of New Yorkers and world citizens take pictures of the Gates and each other and talk about this creation. It struck me that the people and their comments are all part of the art itself. The Gates also made me want to walk on and on; it's almost hypnotic, and it does set off the winter bareness of Central Park. Anyhow, it left me smiling, crowds or no crowds.
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Old Feb 16th, 2005 | 05:16 AM
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My compliments, LKC. You have so perfectly captured the essence of what what The Gates experience is all about. Thank you.
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Old Feb 16th, 2005 | 05:38 AM
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Ok! I guess I'm gonna have to be the one to say this. It never ceases to amaze me what elightened people call art.

My grandmother's clothesline looked better than this. It was a folkart experience with spontaneous color and line created by randomness. The pattern generated by gentle breezes was a sight to behold. And on days when only whites were hanging, the subtle play of tone-on-tone was inspired artistry. Just being in proximity to that display gave one such a peaceful feeling, one of being grounded to the reality of the moment with attachment to all who were represented by the individual parts assembled.
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Old Feb 16th, 2005 | 05:51 AM
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Hey! Isn't this a travel forum?!?

I wish we had the Gates to fight over in Florida =D> It would take our minds off the construction that is raping and ruining our environment. How nice to see how Christo so naturally aligned with nature. And HowardR, I wish you wouldn't have pointed out that NY Times piece. Now I really feel bad that I can't be there.
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