Any suggestion would be helpful Iam planning on going the 2 week of Dec. Plan on a late flight from nyc on wednesday and returning Sunday. Do Ihave enought time to go to Montery Muir woods and Napa How is the weather that time of the year

With 3 full days in SF, you will have time to see Muir Woods and Napa, but that will take time away from seeing other things within SF. It's really a matter of choice.

As for weather, it will be winter time, so it will more than likely be raining with highs in the low 60s and lows in the 40s or 50s. It probably wont rain the whole weekend though and it might not rain at all while you are here - it's pretty much the luck of the draw.

Hello rnbtr,
2nd week of December could put you right in the middle of a rainy spell, or it could be a fair-weather space in between rain storms - you just can't tell. One thing to remember, though, is if you plan to drive to Monterey or Napa, you'll most likely be driving in rain some of the time, so plan enough drive time to drive safely. If it were me, I'd do a little tour of Muir Woods and Pt. Reyes one day and then decide between either Napa or Monterey, and spend a night in the location of your choice. I think you'd be a little rushed to do both as day trips, and as J.Correa has pointed out, you'll need some time to enjoy the city itself.
Good things about visiting Muir Woods or other redwood groves in winter:
1. Far fewer crowds!
2. The mosses are glowing with the winter moisture - almost neon-like, and the brooks will be going full-force. If you are in Muir Woods during a storm, it can be terrifying - in a good way - to see and hear the treetops moving in all their power.

Monterey is at least a full days trip (assuming you don't stay overnight) and so is Napa, so you may wish to eliminate one or the other if you intend to spend more than one day exploring SF itself.

The above posters are correct: you will have to choose between Napa and Monterey.

Unless you are really into wines and wine tasting, I would suggest Monterey/Carmel as side trip from San Francisco. You should probably plan on staying overnight one night.

Muir Woods you can do on a half day drive out of SF.

That'll leave you about a day and half for San Francisco itself.

Nice trip! Enjoy yourself! And forget the wool coat and the knee length east coast raincoat. Just bring a warm jacket, preferably one with a hood, bring a turtleneck sweater, sturdy shoes and you're all set!

San Francisco may be small in geographic terms, but there is a huge amount of things to do in The City-- saying it can be "seen" in one or two days is a rather ridiculous assertion. For a three-day trip, I would personally spend the entire time in SF and really explore it, and forego the side trips. But if you really want to venture out, I'd go for ONE destination, as I'm not a fan of vacations that turn into driving expeditions. If you're intent on seeing Big Trees (kinda lost on me), do Muir Woods. But Monterey is so beautiful, that would be my preference.

rjw_lgb is from Santa Monica.
I think that just about eliminates the possibility that he works for the San Jose CVB.

....or the SF CVB, as the case may be.

Hummm!

This brings up a wild conjecture:

Do you suppose Jaredson et al. work for the SAN JOSE city government in some way? How is he able to come up with so many aliases in so short a time? Is this a PAID harasser? A PAID troublemaker?

In today's world of dirty politics, anything is possible!

Just a wild conjecture!

I don't work for S.F. I live in Fresno...right in the middle of the state. If I only had three days in SF I would probably spend them all right in the city. There are some wonderful FREE walking tours put on by City Guides. The museums are great and just people watching too. Be sure and book a play. Maybe pick ONE out of town trip. Ride the ferry to Sausalito...then you aren't renting a car. You can rent bike in Sausalito and ride the bike path around the bay. You certainly can not do SF in a day. That's crasy...and I'm just a hick from Fresno!!!

i mean "crazy"..

LCasey, you obviously didn't make it to Golden Gate Park, the Presidio, Chrissy Field, Fort Mason, Baker Beach or any of the other "natural" places in San Francisco.

It kills me when people suggest you "can see it all" in a day or two. I've been to NYC about eight times - each time spending a week - and I still haven't seen all of THAT city. I've lived in San Francisco for about six years and am still discovering new things.

It's a city, not a theme park.

RNBTR, I would suggest spending the whole time in the city - with a day trip to Muir Woods and Sausalito (which are right across the Bay). Save Napa and Monterey for another trip - or stay longer - they are both over an hour's drive one way. You have to admit that San Francisco is worth at least two days of your trip.

It really depends on what you like and what you haave seen before. I love the city (all big cities) and I love the natural environment. You just have to decide what you are interested in. I have been to SF a bizzilion times but went last summer with a friend who was Chinese. She took a group of us for DimSum in Chinatown...on a Sunday. Our group was the only caucasion group in a restaurant of 300 people. What an experience. Even the waitresses didn't speak English. So ....there is a lot to experience in SF and you can't do it in a day or two!

Theoretically you could do it all in the time you have..but why? The weather will be cold and could be miserable or could be stunning. Frankly,
I'd allow a full day for Napa with a great lunch thrown in up there..Muir Woods can be nice at that time of year as can Point Reyes. You could combine the two. While I am a great fan of Monterey, it is alot to do in a day. I'd allow for an overnite and definitely include a walk around Point Lobos if you do go. I do disagree with those who might say you could skip AF or it's an easy place to do in a day or two..it's charm is in its neighborhoods I think..you gotta at least venture into North Beach,Chinatown and perhaps the wharf. Cold weather calls for steaming plates of pasta, ciopinno,coffees at Trieste or Vesuvio's..bowls of hunan dumplings at Henry's Hunan..you'll be here in crab and oyster season..try Swan's Oyster Depot. You owe this to your soul.

typo..whoops..it should be SF not AF.
Come..it's a great city and its pleasures are many.

Tobin~it seems such a shame to be spending so much of your time and energy here at Fodor's when you could be out enjoying the many splendors of San Jose.

Ummm

I was out on a hiking trip over the weekend...must have missed something...Jaredson is gone and now it's Tobin????

What hoppened? This post sounds so disjointed!

OK, "Devinson", one more time-- I am just me. I'm not Jason888. He lives in San José-- I live in Long Beach, in SOUTHERN California. I like San Francisco because it's beautiful and has a lot (I repeat: A LOT) to do. My AAA guide devotes 16 1/2 pages to a visitor's overview of SF, with 37 pages of hotel and restaurant listings. And best of all, driving can be kept to a minimum while exploring. For those of us who spend lots of time in our cars commuting, that's golden.

If you choose Monterey, you could do winetasting in Monterey County/Carmel Valley. The butterflies will also be in Pacific Grove.

I remember some other casualties of this ridiculous SF COnvention Bureau stuff..someone went on a rant about Patrick who seemed to either disappear or morph into someone else(too bad..I miss him)..Would someone please explain (in earnest) why this stuff keeps turning up. If it's attempted humor, it's lost on me..if it's a subliminal message it's still lost on me(I avoid San Jose like the plague ok with exception of loving the Sharks)..who cares I say..SF does have its redeeming qualities and no doubt, those who aren't even Sharks fans, would claim San Jose does as well. We Golden Staters have a reputation to play down..for god's sake..the recall madness is crazy enough we gotta draw the Mason-Dixie line again?