Roy's?
Jan 12th, 2005, 01:16 PM
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I don't think anyone implied that Outback can 'fire' any of Roy's executives and why would they? They partnered with Roy for his concept so they certainly wouldn't want to impose any of their menu ideas on his.
Roys business plan and operations is handled by Outback.
Why are you so upset by this?
Roys business plan and operations is handled by Outback.
Why are you so upset by this?
Jan 12th, 2005, 01:31 PM
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I'm upset b/c I just wanted to know if I could take my kids there! Ha, ha, . . . just kidding, I knew you didn't mean me, GT. However I am coming away w/more knowledge of Roys & Outback than I could have dreamed. 
Jan 12th, 2005, 02:05 PM
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I'm not upset by this, I am just repeating the info that is in my husband's company literature. In the info regarding the Roy's Outback Joint Venture it outlines RYE's and Outback's part in the joint venture. According to RYE, Outback is responsilble for financial, facilities and executive managment, HR administration, etc. The only part of the day-to-day operations in which Outback is involved would be bookkeeping and facilities management. RYE's responsibilites are design of interior, general management of the restaurant, menus, kitchen, and all personel from the executive chef down. The part about Outback not be able to fire Roy's people is included in this section and it just further enforces that Outback has not taken over Roy's. I was not inferring anyone was going to fire anyone, just that it is part of the agreement between Roys and Outback.
But Outback never bought Roy's and it is not under new ownership.
But Outback never bought Roy's and it is not under new ownership.
Jan 12th, 2005, 04:07 PM
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heretoday, maybe this distinction will clear the air.
Outback Steakhouse is the restaurant.
Outback Steakhouse International (NYSE OSI) is the parent corporation. Roy's is under the OSI umbrella as are about 9 other concepts including Carrabbas, Cheeseburger In Paradise, Outback Steakhouse, Bonefish Grill, Flemings, Lee Roy Selmans, and Pauls.
Outback Steakhouse is the restaurant.
Outback Steakhouse International (NYSE OSI) is the parent corporation. Roy's is under the OSI umbrella as are about 9 other concepts including Carrabbas, Cheeseburger In Paradise, Outback Steakhouse, Bonefish Grill, Flemings, Lee Roy Selmans, and Pauls.
Jan 13th, 2005, 08:30 AM
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Roys in Atlanta is delicious. The last time I was there I had Hibachi Grilled Salmon. Hubby had the charbroiled short ribs that Patrick was talking about and he loved them.
As a side note, I seem to be the only person I know who does not care for Outback Steaks. The use to have boiled shrimp as an appetizer that I would eat along with a salad and a baked potatoe if the people we were with just had to eat there. Unfortunately they took that off the menu. If I had to choose a casual steak place, I would choose Longhorns over Outback (of course then I would take forever decided between the salmon and the steak but that is a whole different problem). I just do not seem to like their steaks. For some reason they taste grainy to me.
As a side note, I seem to be the only person I know who does not care for Outback Steaks. The use to have boiled shrimp as an appetizer that I would eat along with a salad and a baked potatoe if the people we were with just had to eat there. Unfortunately they took that off the menu. If I had to choose a casual steak place, I would choose Longhorns over Outback (of course then I would take forever decided between the salmon and the steak but that is a whole different problem). I just do not seem to like their steaks. For some reason they taste grainy to me.
Jan 13th, 2005, 09:04 AM
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Beachbum, the only one who doesn't like Outback? Are you kidding? I tried it twice and hated it both times. I don't need a waiter squatting down at my table saying "Howdy folks, how are you this evening?" Like he really cares. I got the prescribed bloomin' onion which in our case was uncooked and doughy in the middle. Maybe not the usual, but I could have poured the grease out of the whole thing. The steak was mediocre at best (but priced accordingly) and so salty I could barely eat it. I couldn't eat the caesar salad because it tasted like they dumped the salt into it. And what's more, I tend to oversalt my food! Most of my friends won't go near it either.
This is why my comments above about "if they like Outback then stay away from Roy's." I can't imagine someone who thinks Outback is the BEST to actually like the good quality of a place like Roys.
This is why my comments above about "if they like Outback then stay away from Roy's." I can't imagine someone who thinks Outback is the BEST to actually like the good quality of a place like Roys.
Jan 13th, 2005, 09:22 AM
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I'm going to Hawaii in April and was really looking forward to eating at Roy's, but now I'm getting the impression that it's a glorified Outback Steakhouse.
GoTravel said Roy still has sole ownership of his 6 restaurants in Hawaii. Is that true?
Couldn't he have a joint venture w/ Outback and still retain majority ownership of some (or all) of his retaurants?
What's the deal??? If I travel several thousand miles and open the menu and see a Bloomin' Onion I'm gonna be pissed.
GoTravel said Roy still has sole ownership of his 6 restaurants in Hawaii. Is that true?
Couldn't he have a joint venture w/ Outback and still retain majority ownership of some (or all) of his retaurants?
What's the deal??? If I travel several thousand miles and open the menu and see a Bloomin' Onion I'm gonna be pissed.
Jan 13th, 2005, 09:39 AM
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Al, if you have actually read through all the posts above and now have the impression that Roy's is a "glorified" Outback Steakhouse, I suggest you either read them all again, or else go immediately take a course in understanding what you read. While there are many comments about the specific managment and ownership issues, I fail to see anyone suggesting that Roy's isn't far more upscale and considerably different from Outback.
If Donald Trump bought a local Days Inn, would you somehow suppose that hotel now would be like his Atlantic City Resorts and Casinos?
If Donald Trump bought a local Days Inn, would you somehow suppose that hotel now would be like his Atlantic City Resorts and Casinos?
Jan 13th, 2005, 10:01 AM
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Snowrooster,
I'm a Chicagoan and love the Roy's we have here. It's definitely an upscale experience, while I would compare Outback to a Chile's or TGIFriday's.
Unfortunately, we've only been to Roy's once because we have so many incredible restaurants in Chicago, we attempt to try a new place everytime we're going out for a high end dinner. Roy's does a really good job not screaming chain restaurant, at least the one in Chicago does.
This whole thread dedicated to Roy's makes me question my decision NOT to eat Roy's while we'll be in Maui next month. My thought was that since we have one at home, we should be trying local restaurants only to be found on the island.
Here2Day...what do you think? On the other hand, we've only been there once and absolutely loved it.
Snowrooster - Let me know if you need any other recommendations on restaurants in Chicago.
I'm a Chicagoan and love the Roy's we have here. It's definitely an upscale experience, while I would compare Outback to a Chile's or TGIFriday's.
Unfortunately, we've only been to Roy's once because we have so many incredible restaurants in Chicago, we attempt to try a new place everytime we're going out for a high end dinner. Roy's does a really good job not screaming chain restaurant, at least the one in Chicago does.
This whole thread dedicated to Roy's makes me question my decision NOT to eat Roy's while we'll be in Maui next month. My thought was that since we have one at home, we should be trying local restaurants only to be found on the island.
Here2Day...what do you think? On the other hand, we've only been there once and absolutely loved it.
Snowrooster - Let me know if you need any other recommendations on restaurants in Chicago.
Jan 13th, 2005, 10:02 AM
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I hope that I did not give the impression the Roy's is a glorified Outback Steakhouse because that most certainly is NOT the case.
Roy's is fantastic Asian fusian cuisine and if there was one near me, I'd eat there 7 nights a week.
Roy soley owns his original six restaurants in Hawaii because he opened them long before he partnered with OSI.
Roy is partnered with OSI not the actual Outback Steakhouse restaurant.
Roy's is fantastic Asian fusian cuisine and if there was one near me, I'd eat there 7 nights a week.
Roy soley owns his original six restaurants in Hawaii because he opened them long before he partnered with OSI.
Roy is partnered with OSI not the actual Outback Steakhouse restaurant.
Jan 13th, 2005, 10:11 AM
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OK, Al, then I'll rephrase my question. If Trump bought a local Days Inn, does that mean his resort hotels in Atlantic City automatically go down in quality to become glorified Day's Inns?
Is that clearer? My point is that over and over again above people made clear that Roy's is much more upscale than Outback. If you somehow interpreted their remarks to indicate that Outback and Roy's are similar, you need a course in understanding what you read.
Is that clearer? My point is that over and over again above people made clear that Roy's is much more upscale than Outback. If you somehow interpreted their remarks to indicate that Outback and Roy's are similar, you need a course in understanding what you read.
Jan 13th, 2005, 10:21 AM
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al, Outback Steakhouse is the most successful casual dining restaurant concept in the world.
Love it or hate it those are the facts. OSI runs completely in the black.
When you have a concept that good, there is no way that partnering with Outback would bring it 'down'.
Outback built the business model that all restaurants emulate because they are so successful.
Your theory is silly and Roys benefits greatly from partnering with Outback. They have made Roy Y. a very rich man by expanding his restaurant empire.
The only reason I know any of this is because one of the guys who started Bonefish is a great friend of my husband who has introduced us to Bob Basham, Chris Sullivan, Bob Merritt, John and Trudi Cooper, and Paul Avery.
Love it or hate it those are the facts. OSI runs completely in the black.
When you have a concept that good, there is no way that partnering with Outback would bring it 'down'.
Outback built the business model that all restaurants emulate because they are so successful.
Your theory is silly and Roys benefits greatly from partnering with Outback. They have made Roy Y. a very rich man by expanding his restaurant empire.
The only reason I know any of this is because one of the guys who started Bonefish is a great friend of my husband who has introduced us to Bob Basham, Chris Sullivan, Bob Merritt, John and Trudi Cooper, and Paul Avery.
Jan 13th, 2005, 11:01 AM
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You know, I was always under the impression that Roy's was a very upscale, independently owned restaurant and now I find out they're owned by the same conglomerate that owns the Outback Steakhouse. Sorry, but it kills the mystique for me. The Outback Steakhouse may be a fine business model but as a place to eat they're a pretty average middle class steakhouse. Hence their success.
When several similar businesses fall under a common umbrella company they will all share a common business philosophy -- and certain vendors and suppliers as well. In this respect they are identical. If the Gramercy Tavern was purchased by OSI would it make it a better restaurant? Of course not.
When several similar businesses fall under a common umbrella company they will all share a common business philosophy -- and certain vendors and suppliers as well. In this respect they are identical. If the Gramercy Tavern was purchased by OSI would it make it a better restaurant? Of course not.
Jan 13th, 2005, 11:06 AM
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Patrick -
Well you have got to be the first person I have ever heard that disliked it. Actually that is not true. I do have some friends who dislike it mainly because it is a chain. However they crack me up because I notice they do eat at chains and just do not realize it but I refuse to tell them because I get a sick enjoyment out it. Yes I am a tad twisted.
I do agree that their cesar salad is the pits so is their ranch dressing for their house salad. However, should you ever goe stuck eating there, have a few drinks (like their wallabydarned sp??) and you can almost forget the food is horrible.
Just out of curiousity, why would Roy's be brought down by partnering with Outback? That just doesn't make any sense to me. I think if people took a moment to look up which companies are owned are partnered with which companies, you might raise an eyebrow or two and at the very least get an amazing education. Some of the least likely companies are held together in some form or fashion.
Well you have got to be the first person I have ever heard that disliked it. Actually that is not true. I do have some friends who dislike it mainly because it is a chain. However they crack me up because I notice they do eat at chains and just do not realize it but I refuse to tell them because I get a sick enjoyment out it. Yes I am a tad twisted.
I do agree that their cesar salad is the pits so is their ranch dressing for their house salad. However, should you ever goe stuck eating there, have a few drinks (like their wallabydarned sp??) and you can almost forget the food is horrible.
Just out of curiousity, why would Roy's be brought down by partnering with Outback? That just doesn't make any sense to me. I think if people took a moment to look up which companies are owned are partnered with which companies, you might raise an eyebrow or two and at the very least get an amazing education. Some of the least likely companies are held together in some form or fashion.
