starrsville

I would caution a buyer away from the kind of tix you are trying to sell (see klr's description). I would see if TM would switch them out for real paper tix - even for a fee. The donation idea sounds like the best option at this time - or a quick trip to Chicago.

Heavens

So the problem in reselling is trusting that I haven't resold them to another party? Humm, seems like the idea is good bc there are no shipping fees. Wonder why TM can't put some indicator on the online ticket to show they have been printed or not? Wouldn't that be helpful.

TM is just out for the money, seems to me. I have totally been burned in my book. Again, the crappy seats. I will never buy again from TM unless I SEE where the seats are before buying. Then they give you no backup. Really don't understand the problem with no exchanges, if they had added the exchange service.

I am feeling so screwed right now. By my neighbor who sat on this for two months, by TM who sold us crappy tickets for $65, and TM for no help whatsoever for the mistake, for the exchange, for nada. And now I am finding out that these tickets might not be trusted for reselling. How else could I get screwed over in this deal? Get NOTHING for the tickets.

Thanks for letting me rant. I am getting very upset and not sleeping over this now. I am mad about losing the money and mad at my neighbor. Ugh. And mad at me for being so patient with neighbor. Really wasn't expecting all of this hassle about it. Wicked is a whole other sitch in San Diego, which is a two week stint that is sold out. Thought Chicago was the same.

starrsville

Heavens, I don't know. I've never sold tix on either. I would trust an ebay seller with a good history record - but you don't have that.

I would caution someone against buying this tix from someone they did not know personally.

I DO know that scalpers outside a concert were asking if anyone had tix to sell. I nodded yes, and when I pulled out the printed page from the TM he grimaced and waved me off. The scalper didn't want them - I assumed because he didn't think he could resell them (a few minutes later). He was buying as many "real" tix he could get.

saps

Be upset, rant, try to dump the tickets and if you can't then just tally it up to as a learning lesson and move on, but don't lose sleep over this!

wtm003

Heavens,

I would still try to sell on Ebay even with a paper ticket from TM. My brother has purchased tickets this way several times. He actually prefers this over having a real ticket mailed to him. He has never been burned and figures he is protected by PayPal if anything goes wrong. If his assumption is wrong I'm sure an Ebay expert will correct me on this.

karameli

Heavens,

TM's customer service is awful indeed, but you can't bame them for "selling you crappy tickets" -- you know what seats you're getting well before you go through the payment process. Just because the best seats available aren't good seats, you can't blame TM. Blame the 1200 people who bought tickets before you did for that performance.

That said, I always prefer eBay because you know when the sale will end and the buyer is required to pay. On Craigslist, they can just decide not to complete the sale, and then you're stuck. Make sure you check eBay's resale policy before posting an astronomical Buy It Now price as one poster suggested -- in some states you're legally required to post tickets at their face value (though it's perfectly legit if they're bid up to a higher price). eBay should also give you better luck in terms of selling e-tickets -- the seller will be more comfortable buying e-tickets through eBay because they know they have recourse if you scam them (which you're not). It's jus a better situation from every angle.

Heavens

Man oh man, let me blame TM, please????

Part of the problem is that TM's website is not easy to navigate. When my OD bought them, she was thrilled to get anything at all. Then to find out that somehow she had gotten into Chicago's tickets and not San Diegos, well, sorry, you can't convince me that some of this isn't intentional. And then, if you screw up, you are stuck.

But you all have made me feel better about things. I will be listing at face value of the ticket. At this rate I'll be lucky to get 50% on the dollar and I will be happy with that.

Thanks all. Yes, this is a sucky learning experience, IMO. SO, all, learn from me and don't do it yourself.

I really appreciate you all replying to this rant. You are talking me down and now I don't want to go and kill my neighbor. At least not right now. So that is a good think. But really, thanks.

starrsville

I still don't get the neighbor part of this.

Little_Man

I've sold things on ebay, including ticketfast tickets, with no problem at all. Just remember to include the ebay fees in your asking price (they can add up), so you don't lose money.

matnikstym

good luck with selling your tickets! did you see how many tickets are on ebay...from .99 all the way up. (who would buy a ticket for .99 and think it's for real?) Let us know how you did.

starrsville

Heavens, I retract my cautions. There are others with experience with this. Trust them and try to disregard my concerns. Good luck.

I do agree that ebay gives a sense of protection and given that they use PayPal the buyer should know that everything is on the up and up.

starrsville

99 cents is a starting point for the bidding. There is probably a "reserve" price that has to be met (that the seller sets) for the bid process to be completed.

matnikstym

thanks starrsville...never used ebay so now i know. thought it was weird.

starrsville

ebay is great! I love it. Got seriously addicted and had to stop.

karameli

Heavens,
One more word of advice re eBay -- you might want to go into your seller preferences (use their help feature if you can't find) and block bidders who have a negative feedback rating or have gotten negative feedback in the past few months. That way, you're less likely to get a bidder who will claim you didn't send the tickets. On your end, the e-tickets will be harder to prove they've been successfully used by the buyer, so take steps to protect yourself before you sell! (Not trying to scare you away from eBay...so far I've had mostly smooth transactions through them!)

Heavens

OK, here is the neighbor part. OD did this per my instructions while DH and I were in Europe, on the day the tickets went on sale in San Diego. She was buying four ticket, for us and neighbor/daughter. When OD did this mistake, she cried. Then called neighbor to tell her. Neighbor said don't worry, maybe her other daughter who is nearby will buy them.

When we get home from trip, she is working on getting tickets for daughter. Then she decides she is going to chi to use tickets with daughter. I tell her she doesn't have to do that. I can sell tickets. Well, to make a long story short, this went back and forth. I din't check the seats, she makes arrangements for her daughter to go, but decides that tickets for Sat. matinee is better for her, so drops my tickets and buys new ones for Sat. This is last weekend. She sat on these tickets for two months.

My bad, I didn't think I would have trouble selling, and I didn't check the seats. So, now, I am pissed at neighbor, TM, and Me for being so patient. But I really thought neighbor was going to use them. So, this is how I got in pickle. My bad, I know. Live and learn. But you know, I could really use that $300 this summer.

Thanks again for listening.

gail

What if you call a ticket broker in Chicago and see if they are interested in your tickets. You probably won't get face value even, but it is better than nothing.

klr6773

It's a shame your neighbor didn't use those seats in Chicago. I would have used them even if they were not as good as others available-just to help the situation. Good friend...
I just got a bit burned by a friend's procrastination on Etheridge tickets- could have snagged 14 th row seats on TM for face value-but one friend wanted to wait for "better seats to open up" against my advice. Guess what? ended up 1 row ahead, but had to pay an extra $50 a piece on Ebay in order to avoid nosebleed seats that were available through TM 2 months later! Procrastinator friend bought the first two rounds that night!!

I agree to shoot for face value,but be willing to recoup any part of it. I had originally suggested going over face (as is very normal on Ebay) before I looked at the saturation of tickets available on Ebay,and learned of the ticketfast tickets. There are definately rules about how much you can sell for over face value,but they are different in each state. I'm just familiar with NJ and WA/OR now...I've made nice profits on tickets I've sold on Ebay,and I've been able to get better seats with that profit..nothing I feel guilty about,cause I've also been willing to pay far over face value for things too!

I'm sure all will work out in the end..

Heavens

I have another ebay question. No bidders thus far, so trying not to panic.

Do you think I would have better luck to split them up? If I split them up (two and two) then I would have to print them out and send them to two different places. But to me, in order to get rid of them, don't mind doing that. What do you think? Sell them in Chicago as four or two and two?

Thanks again for your help.

klr6773

Offering both options in the same listing is a common practice. Of course, you would hope that somebody grabs all 4 at once before someone else only wants 2 of them,as you may or may not sell the other 2....sounds like you'd be happy recouping any of the money, so I'd make the change. You would just have to send a new invoice to reflect total for 2 instead of 4 if that's what was sold....