Recent Gas Prices in Hawaii
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Recent Gas Prices in Hawaii
Well, gas prices in Memphis, TN have reached $1.69 for regular, $1.79 for mid-grade, and $1.89 for premium. Has anyone recently returned from Hawaii (or a little local know-how would be great) who can tell me what the gas prices are running over there? Just curious about what to expect.
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We've had a 9 cent increase in the past week in Southern California. There's one station near my house that is at $2.33! And that's for 87 octaine! It's getting rediculous, but I guess it's like those who live in Hawaii, you pay for the privilege to live here.
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The average price of gas in CA is actually higher than the average price of gas in HI, according to a recent article in the Honolulu Advertiser. I have heard in recent weeks that Hawaii's gas prices are tied to those in CA, which is totally absurd because gas costs more to produce in CA because of the MTBE and because CA taxes are very high. Additionally, a recent report issued by Tesoro actually stated that cost refinery costs were lower here than the mainland.
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We may or may not have a gas price cap that will go into effect in July.
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We may or may not have a gas price cap that will go into effect in July.
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Paid 2.23 to fill up this week in SoCal.
Not fun. I feel bad for the truckers that ship nearly all consumer goods across our big country, this really cuts into their earnings.
Public transportation in Southern California is also laughable. It exists but well hitchhiking is faster.
I also read an article recently that said that no matter the price of gas only 3 percent of people can or will cut back on driving.
Not fun. I feel bad for the truckers that ship nearly all consumer goods across our big country, this really cuts into their earnings.
Public transportation in Southern California is also laughable. It exists but well hitchhiking is faster.
I also read an article recently that said that no matter the price of gas only 3 percent of people can or will cut back on driving.
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We're heading to Hawaii in late May. It'll be refreshing to perhaps pay less for gas!
I've been buying gas as "Valero" stations. They seem to be almost 10 cents cheaper if you pay cash (or debit card). And, I like not putting cash in the Big Oil Companies pockets. Watch someone burst my bubble now and tell me they're an off-shoot of Mobile or Texaco.
I've been buying gas as "Valero" stations. They seem to be almost 10 cents cheaper if you pay cash (or debit card). And, I like not putting cash in the Big Oil Companies pockets. Watch someone burst my bubble now and tell me they're an off-shoot of Mobile or Texaco.
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SoCalGal, it's not Mobile but Mobil.
Secondly Mobil was taken over by Exxon.
Thirdly, oil is a commodity, its price will rise and fall with demand versus supply.
Fourthly, who do you think supplies all the "cheaper" gas stations with refined product, product produced from existing refineries running full speed because environmentalists and politicians (both of whom quote quack science but good soundbites) effectively forbid new refinery construction - necessary because various states, in their infinite wisdom, legislate gasoline composition, often incompatible with other states?
Fifthly oil production is a VERY expensive undertaking, even assuming you've found enough to produce (another expensive activity in itself).
Neither exploration nor production is encouraged in the US so most has to be imported. Wouldn't it be helpful to us all to try and find then produce oil in the US ? That way we can lessen our reliance on the middle east and other unstable areas of the world. But no, unless it's offshore Texas or Louisiana *we* don't want those things drilling near our state.
I read somewhere that the true cost of oil to the US is up around $100/barrel if you factor in all the military costs associated with securing our supply from the middle east.
All in all, a gallon of gas is still cheap in the US, even now it's way less than milk or even what some pay for a plastic bottle of water.
Open up US exploration, including Alaska and ANWR, the proposed area of activity there is tiny despite what's exaggerated by the NRDC and other wackos and media hacks who can barely spell "science".
OK, now I'll get off my soapbox but as one who worked hard in the industry it upsets me that the general population mostly has no idea about the realities, they just think cheap gasoline is a right, well .. it isn't; never was, never will be.
Don't take it personally SoCal, you just provided the "spark"
Regards
Secondly Mobil was taken over by Exxon.
Thirdly, oil is a commodity, its price will rise and fall with demand versus supply.
Fourthly, who do you think supplies all the "cheaper" gas stations with refined product, product produced from existing refineries running full speed because environmentalists and politicians (both of whom quote quack science but good soundbites) effectively forbid new refinery construction - necessary because various states, in their infinite wisdom, legislate gasoline composition, often incompatible with other states?
Fifthly oil production is a VERY expensive undertaking, even assuming you've found enough to produce (another expensive activity in itself).
Neither exploration nor production is encouraged in the US so most has to be imported. Wouldn't it be helpful to us all to try and find then produce oil in the US ? That way we can lessen our reliance on the middle east and other unstable areas of the world. But no, unless it's offshore Texas or Louisiana *we* don't want those things drilling near our state.
I read somewhere that the true cost of oil to the US is up around $100/barrel if you factor in all the military costs associated with securing our supply from the middle east.
All in all, a gallon of gas is still cheap in the US, even now it's way less than milk or even what some pay for a plastic bottle of water.
Open up US exploration, including Alaska and ANWR, the proposed area of activity there is tiny despite what's exaggerated by the NRDC and other wackos and media hacks who can barely spell "science".
OK, now I'll get off my soapbox but as one who worked hard in the industry it upsets me that the general population mostly has no idea about the realities, they just think cheap gasoline is a right, well .. it isn't; never was, never will be.
Don't take it personally SoCal, you just provided the "spark"

Regards
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will be short, as to not start a political thread on a vacation board, but felt the need to respond.
prices are a product of global supply and demand - opening up anwr (even though i don't disagree that it should be seriously considered by people we can trust with the environment) will not have any measurable effect on price since demand in growing economies (e.g. china and india) is way outpacing that small amount of supply. the only way to have any effect on prices is to substantially cut demand (fuel efficient cars). ok, now i'm also off my soapbox, back to fun vacation planning . . .
prices are a product of global supply and demand - opening up anwr (even though i don't disagree that it should be seriously considered by people we can trust with the environment) will not have any measurable effect on price since demand in growing economies (e.g. china and india) is way outpacing that small amount of supply. the only way to have any effect on prices is to substantially cut demand (fuel efficient cars). ok, now i'm also off my soapbox, back to fun vacation planning . . .
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pspercy... I NEVER take anything personally. I chalk up the mis-spelling of Mobil to a long day. As far as them being owned by Exxon... okay, you've got me there.
I couldn't agree with you more on our need to explore our options to become more self-sufficient with oil-supply. For that matter on many consumer products and services, but that conversation belongs in a different forum.
It goes back to my previous post. It's a privilege to here, and one I'm willing to pay. I'm just grateful that I can afford to when I know that so many can't.
P.S. You did open my eyes to how rediculous my "small oil company" vs. "big oil company" comment was. For someone who works for a comodity based corporation who is not only the nation's largest, but the world's largest, you'd think I would have known better. Sorry about that!
I don't believe it's my right to be able to buy gas cheaply. I'm fortunate that I can afford I thin
I couldn't agree with you more on our need to explore our options to become more self-sufficient with oil-supply. For that matter on many consumer products and services, but that conversation belongs in a different forum.
It goes back to my previous post. It's a privilege to here, and one I'm willing to pay. I'm just grateful that I can afford to when I know that so many can't.
P.S. You did open my eyes to how rediculous my "small oil company" vs. "big oil company" comment was. For someone who works for a comodity based corporation who is not only the nation's largest, but the world's largest, you'd think I would have known better. Sorry about that!
I don't believe it's my right to be able to buy gas cheaply. I'm fortunate that I can afford I thin
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Yes, Mobil is no longer its own boss, after the takeover the new company was creatively named ExxonMobil
The ticker went from XON to XOM.
For a previous poster, my remarks about anwr were from the point of view of homegrown supplies not any affect on costs.
The ticker went from XON to XOM. For a previous poster, my remarks about anwr were from the point of view of homegrown supplies not any affect on costs.

