possible relocation to Denver

Old Apr 28th, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Define outside of Denver. Do you mean outside the city limits, outside the Denver metro area, or areas physically separate from Denver? I am in my sixties and I don't want younger people live near me either so I hope you pick another neighborhood, maybe another town.
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Old Apr 30th, 2008 | 03:52 AM
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I mean outside the city limits, but within the metropolitan area. Are you trying to say that most people in Denver are younger? When I mentioned I didn't want to live near a lot of young people, I guess that means people under 35 or so. Areas with moderate to liberal people over 40 would be ideal.
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Old Apr 30th, 2008 | 05:11 AM
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I think you do not understand the geography of Denver. Have you ever been there? "Outside the city limits" is just about colorado Springs.
Denver is a huge city with many contiguous areas--Aurora, Lakewood,Littleton,LoDo, Ballpark neighborhood, etc. etc. There isn't a place that is "young people". DU is an urban university surrounded by houses and apartment buildings. You would benefit from living in that neighborhood if you can afford it. Very attractive.
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Old Apr 30th, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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All of the neighborhoods I mention above are very diverse, including in the age of their residents: Mayfair, Montclair, Park Hill, City Park, Capitol Hill. These neighborhoods which I believe could have brick bungalows in your price range.

The twenty-somethings I know are wanting to move into the up-and-coming Highlands area (not sure of the boundaries-- includes 32nd and Tennyson), and into condos just west of LoDo.
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Old Apr 30th, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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Gretchen. Aurora is a city. Littleton is a city. They are just small cities. They are outside Denver proper. Right? When you address a letter and the person lives in Littleton, you use Littleton, CO on the city/state line. An area that is part of Denver, but has a nickname of its own would be something like Park Hill right? Park Hill is still Denver, CO. Just to be clear I am interested in towns (suburbs) outside the city of Denver.
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Old Apr 30th, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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katolb90, I'm confused. Why do you want to be outside the city of Denver? In my experience, the city folks are more what you're looking for-- not conservative, diverse. . .

If you want a city/town that is separate and distinct from Denver, then you need to look at Longmont, Louisville, Boulder, Colorado Springs, Ft. Collins.

I wouldn't call a suburb a 'town' necessarily. The Denver metro area, including Aurora and Littleton, is one giant mish-mash, like any other city. It's not like you notice a big difference when your drive from Denver into Littleton.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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Perhaps I would consider living in the city. I'll be sure to check out those areas that were suggested. Its just that when I think of the 'city', I think of close together houses and with a 'grid like' layout. I want some space (1/4 acre or so) and a large yard for my dogs.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 07:53 AM
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Yes, do check out all areas of Denver. The Denver city boundaries are quite expansive. We live 'in the city', but are four miles from downtown.

When we had friends visit from New York City, they were puzzled, because we live 'in' Denver, but our neighborhood is a cool historic area with lots of trees. Not what they expected.

In fact, some of the older homes sit on multiple lots, so the yards are quite large. A good realtor can steer you correctly. Good luck.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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Katolb90 -- you just changed the whole discuss when you asked for a large lot. Most of the housing in Denver and even the newer outlying subdivisions sit on small to very small lots. There are some exceptions but not many and none in your price range. Large lots in the city are expensive and large lots with small houses are in very high demand. We call them "scrapeables". A small house is scraped off and big one built. Also, large lots with lots of grass are expensive to maintain -- most of the areas have water rationing -- some mandatory, some voluntary and water usage pricing is design to discourage high volume of usage. The busing issue 30 years ago frozen Denver's city limit to a relatively small area when compared to the metro area. Most of the small surrounding true town - Littleton, Englewood, Aurora, Lakewood, etc. have been overrun by the metro area so that it is impossible to know where the boundaries of each are other than a little sign sometimes.

Since I live on the south side (Centennial) so I am more familiar with the neighborhoods of Littleton, Englewood, Aurora. The original core of Littleton, Englewood would have some small houses with decent size lots but not a quarter acre and somewhat closer to your price range. How you judge if you neighbors are old and liberal, I have no idea.

You should probably spent some time in the Denver before you make any decision. It may not be a good fit for you. Denver metro area is recognized as having a high educational level and one of the youngest cities in the US.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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Yes, Katol, my kids live in Greenwood Village (Littleton) and Lakewood, but I say they live in Denver, as most people who live in Aurora, etc. would also. They have both lived in what I guess you want to call "Denver"--Wash Park, Park Hill, Ballpark neighborhood. You really do need to visit and find out what you are talking about. My kids live in neighborhoods that have 70 year olds, and 30 year olds. It just works that way in a big city. As for a city on a grid==that is the definition of Denver. It is definitely on the grid.
As for Highlands Ranch--south south, off I470.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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"As for a city on a grid==that is the definition of Denver. It is definitely on the grid."

Gretchen, I am not sure what you mean by that. I don't think of Denver as being on a grid per se. Even newer areas like Highlands Ranch aren't laid out on straight-lined streets.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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I don't think Gretchen has very good knowledge of the Denver area. She may visit frequently but does not live here. She has made prior references to Greenwood Village ( Littleton) and implies that they are same. They are not. Two completely separated and very different cities. Littleton is an 100+ year old town and Greenwood Village is created urban town of recent vintage. The older parts of Denver is definitely laid out on the city block system as is typical of must older cities. However, there are sections of Denver that are not. I believe Bonnie Brae has the distinction of being the first subdivision ever plotted with non straight streets. Crestmoor Park is another. The off grid layout of downtown Denver will drive you nuts. All of the subdivision built around Denver in the past 40/50 years are of the curvy street style. But it is interesting that some of the redevelopment of Lowry and Stapleton is returning to the city block grid. Each has its purpose and advantage/
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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fmpden, you are right on, as per usual.

We've lived in Denver since the late 60s, and I've found that most visitors are pleasantly surprised at what Denver actually is, once they get here and experience it. They expect it to be a much different city, in many ways.

You make a good point that there are great and definitely distinct neighborhoods throughout the metro area. We live in an historic neighborhood that is quirky and wonderful. Very similar to our small town Missouri backgrounds. Littleton, as you say, has its old town charm, too. And Greenwood Village is a completely different environment.

I hesitate to boast too much about Denver, though, because I definitely do not care for the sprawl era we've been through. But Denver seems to be vigorously re-building its 'inner city' neighborhoods. It has done a good job, in my opinion, of restoring its vintage architecture, creating lofts, dining, etc. LoDo case in point.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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The other thing that is overlooked when compared to other cities is now vibrant the downtown area is. Had some business that kept me downtown last night and continued to be amazed by the number of people on the Mall at 9:30 at night. And the Rockies were out of town. When do these people go home? Of course, the drawback is that it is snowing like crazy today.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Haen't read this thread, but just wanted to let you know that I was talking to a client in Denver this morning and it was snowing there. On May 1st.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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fmpden, did you notice the ages of the people out late last night, in LoDo?

I've seen predominantly twenty- and thirty-somethings down there. Wasn't Denver listed as a top city for singles? It sure looks like it when you're in LoDo at night.

I worked downtown for Mountain Bell, starting in 1979 as an intern. Back then, Denver only had Larimer Square, and no one was in downtown Denver at night. It was a ghost town after 5:00 p.m.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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So --- it has officially snowed as late as June 8. The first year we lived here the only snow day for the local school system was May 9, But it is also really more than 100 degrees in the summer.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Mambo, you are absolutely correct. We came here in 80 just as the Mall was being completed. For a number of years you could have fired a shot gun on Mall after 7pm and no one would have been hit or heard it. The timing of baseball made the difference. The Mall catching on and baseball pushed it over the top. I was near the south end last night and it was mix of everyone -- it was a mixture of everyone from young to old. Same of the restaurant in LoDo. Caught the Dline south at 9:30 and it was more than half full of all types of people. The whole downtown area has undergone a major transformation in the past 15 years. Very positive.
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Old May 1st, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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My earlier "So...." was directed to missypie who hadn't read the thread but was complied to response anyway. I will take the snow over the recent tornados.
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Old May 2nd, 2008 | 04:36 AM
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I do realize that Greenwood is different from Littleton--it is just that the mail people always say "Littleton". And it is true that I visit often. And it is true that our children have lived in various and diverse parts of Denver.
and Denver to me--being "old"--is one of the most vibrant fun cities I know. I partcicularly love that the old buildings downtown have been preserved.
So, I'll leave it to you experts.
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