Please don't mess around w/getting your passport.
Jul 7th, 2006 | 04:51 PM
#65
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Sunshinesue - I tried, I really tried, but unfortunately, Ancester.com didn't come up with any info about my husband or any members of his family. My husband has resigned himself to never traveling outside of the U.S. This also has dredged up all the old bad memories of what happened to Black people in the deep South during those bad old days. He says that he had heard that records of Black births had been burned. He tells me that is what he brother was told. However, his brother was married to a travel agent and he got his passport before 9/11 but his brother has now died.
I'm so happy for you, emd and that your husband had his chance to travel to Ireland. I have followed your posts about Sedona and share your love for that marvelously beautiful city. I thank you Tuckerdc and Loveitaly for their good wishes. I'm just really upset now for my husband. Perhaps I'll be able to use some influence on the senator, but right look, it's discouraging, it looks like I won't be returning to my love of overseas travel 'cause I won't go without my DH.
I'm so happy for you, emd and that your husband had his chance to travel to Ireland. I have followed your posts about Sedona and share your love for that marvelously beautiful city. I thank you Tuckerdc and Loveitaly for their good wishes. I'm just really upset now for my husband. Perhaps I'll be able to use some influence on the senator, but right look, it's discouraging, it looks like I won't be returning to my love of overseas travel 'cause I won't go without my DH.
Jul 7th, 2006 | 07:22 PM
#67
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Sparkerlaw,
School records are also acceptable forms of age verification for people born prior to 1950 in rural areas. If your husband can remember the names of all the schools he attended as a child, there may be archived records that would have his birthdate. Hope this helps!
School records are also acceptable forms of age verification for people born prior to 1950 in rural areas. If your husband can remember the names of all the schools he attended as a child, there may be archived records that would have his birthdate. Hope this helps!
Jul 7th, 2006 | 07:48 PM
#68
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Sparklerlaw, this just doesn't seem to be the "right answer". I just googled and found the following -
Liberty County Georgia website -
http://www.libertyco.com/passport.htm
IF NO BIRTH RECORD EXISTS, submit registrar's notice to that effect. Also submit an early baptismal or circumcision certificate, hospital birth record, early census, school, or family Bible records, newspaper or insurance file knowledge of your birth (preferably with at least one record listed above). Evidence should include your given name and surname, date and place of birth, seal or other certification of office (if customary) and signature of issuing official.
and from http://www.chriscamera.com/south/passports.htm
If you do NOT have a previous U.S. passport or a certified birth certificate, you will need :
1. Letter of No Record
Issued by the State with your name, date of birth, which years were searched for a birth record and that there is no birth certificate on file for you.
2. AND as many of the following as possible:
baptismal certificate
hospital birth certificate
census record
early school record
family bible record
doctor's record of post-natal care
NOTES:
o These documents must be early public records showing the date and place of birth, preferably created within the first five years of your life.
o You may also submit an Affidavit of Birth, form DS-10, from an older blood relative, i.e., a parent, aunt, uncle, sibling, who has personal knowledge of your birth. It must be notarized or have the seal and signature of the acceptance agent.
BUT TO TALK TO A REAL PERSON, CONTACT -
http://www.visalady.com/
I've used this International Visa Service before and they work with passports and visas everyday. They are based in the Atlanta area and will be familiar with Georgia issues. I bet they can help you get started on a resolution of this problem.
There HAS to be a relatively simple solution to this.
Liberty County Georgia website -
http://www.libertyco.com/passport.htm
IF NO BIRTH RECORD EXISTS, submit registrar's notice to that effect. Also submit an early baptismal or circumcision certificate, hospital birth record, early census, school, or family Bible records, newspaper or insurance file knowledge of your birth (preferably with at least one record listed above). Evidence should include your given name and surname, date and place of birth, seal or other certification of office (if customary) and signature of issuing official.
and from http://www.chriscamera.com/south/passports.htm
If you do NOT have a previous U.S. passport or a certified birth certificate, you will need :
1. Letter of No Record
Issued by the State with your name, date of birth, which years were searched for a birth record and that there is no birth certificate on file for you.
2. AND as many of the following as possible:
baptismal certificate
hospital birth certificate
census record
early school record
family bible record
doctor's record of post-natal care
NOTES:
o These documents must be early public records showing the date and place of birth, preferably created within the first five years of your life.
o You may also submit an Affidavit of Birth, form DS-10, from an older blood relative, i.e., a parent, aunt, uncle, sibling, who has personal knowledge of your birth. It must be notarized or have the seal and signature of the acceptance agent.
BUT TO TALK TO A REAL PERSON, CONTACT -
http://www.visalady.com/
I've used this International Visa Service before and they work with passports and visas everyday. They are based in the Atlanta area and will be familiar with Georgia issues. I bet they can help you get started on a resolution of this problem.
There HAS to be a relatively simple solution to this.
Jul 7th, 2006 | 08:12 PM
#69
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Another thought Sparkerlaw, if your husband is receiving social security and has medicare benefits didn't the government have to have some kind of paperwork that proves he is who he says he is etc? Maybe a stupid thought, but it just flitered through my mind. No doubt starrsville advice to you is the best. Best wishes to you and your husband.
Jul 8th, 2006 | 06:29 AM
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Sparkerlaw,
It sounds like Starrsville has some great information. I sure hope it pans out for you. Please keep us posted. We have our fingers crossed for you!
And if worse comes to worse, try to get help from your boss. You don't have to actually ask him. You can always just mention your problem in passing and see if he offers to help.
It sounds like Starrsville has some great information. I sure hope it pans out for you. Please keep us posted. We have our fingers crossed for you!
And if worse comes to worse, try to get help from your boss. You don't have to actually ask him. You can always just mention your problem in passing and see if he offers to help.
Jul 8th, 2006 | 06:44 AM
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I am sending renewal application this week, but we will be having our mail forwarded for 5 or 6 weeks and was wondering if new passport is sent by certified mail etc.needing a signature, or if it shouldn't be a problem (post office...the leaders in "dreaded glitches"!)forwarding it.
Jul 8th, 2006 | 07:00 AM
#72
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Loveitaly, he got his Social Security card when he was 14 and he says all he had to do was go to the Social Security Office and apply. Apparently, he didn't need any documents; and he just showed his Social Security Card to get Medicare. Interesting note: not so long ago, one of my clients (who was here on a visitor's visa) told me that he got a social security card with just a driver's license that he had received soon after he arrived in the States. He just went to a motor vehicle office showed his Social Security card and got one. Even tho the Social Security Card specifically stated that he couldn't work, he did anyway, because how many people ask to see SS cards before hiring day laborers (he didn't pay any taxes either). However, as they say, "times they are achanging". Aside from that, my husband has no other records - born at home, no baptism, bible, or school records, blood family gone, doctor's are now dead, (if his family even had one in those days), etc., etc. I'm trying to get census records from the government, hopefully that will pan out. I have a feeling that even a State Senator won't have the clout to fix this. But I'll try that avenue anyway. Again, thanks so much to everyone for their kind help and advice.
Jul 8th, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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I didn't read all of the previous 71 responses so I am sorry if this was already suggested:
This is a good example of why any person who plans to ever travel in the future should get their passport and have it on hand! Who knows when an opportunity to travel abroad on short notice might come your way!
This is a good example of why any person who plans to ever travel in the future should get their passport and have it on hand! Who knows when an opportunity to travel abroad on short notice might come your way!
Jul 8th, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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Hi sparkerlaw, I sure hope you and your husband get this worked out. I like the idea of mentioning this to your senator/employer, or maybe one of the senator's top employees?
Hopefully the census record will show his name.
I am confused though about the SS card. My grandson has lost his SS card and I thought he had to get his birthcertificate from him mom in order to get it replaced, but guess not.
Do let us know the outcome!!
Hopefully the census record will show his name.
I am confused though about the SS card. My grandson has lost his SS card and I thought he had to get his birthcertificate from him mom in order to get it replaced, but guess not.
Do let us know the outcome!!
Jul 8th, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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Wow, emd, this one was a nail-biter. I only read about it this morning after it was all over. You are a good egg for not blowing up about it.
My DH is similarly travel-challenged. He and our oldest son were scheduled--months in advance---to go on a medical mission to El Salvador in 2000. I wasn't going and kept out of it. Most of the arrangements were already made, as it is a well-organized group from Florida that has been going for several years to the same villages. This time they were taking several surgical teams and my husband's presence was critical, as many support personnel were going based on his need for help in the makeshift OR's.
He completely forgot that his passport had expired. Not only that, our older son didn't even have one at the time. When I mentioned it to him when I was helping him make a packing list about a WEEK before travel, he actually said, "I thought you didn't need a passport for Central America." !!!!
Well. We paid hundreds of dollars and fed-exed everything to a company in San Francisco that got a renewal and a new passport in 3 days. You couldn't even do that now, probably, after 9/11.
Lesson learned, though. Now, whenever we start talking about a trip, he asks if our passports are up to date! The mission was a wonderful experience for them both, and was nominated that year for the Nobel Peace Prize by the Salvadoran government. And it almost didn't even happen!
My DH is similarly travel-challenged. He and our oldest son were scheduled--months in advance---to go on a medical mission to El Salvador in 2000. I wasn't going and kept out of it. Most of the arrangements were already made, as it is a well-organized group from Florida that has been going for several years to the same villages. This time they were taking several surgical teams and my husband's presence was critical, as many support personnel were going based on his need for help in the makeshift OR's.
He completely forgot that his passport had expired. Not only that, our older son didn't even have one at the time. When I mentioned it to him when I was helping him make a packing list about a WEEK before travel, he actually said, "I thought you didn't need a passport for Central America." !!!!
Well. We paid hundreds of dollars and fed-exed everything to a company in San Francisco that got a renewal and a new passport in 3 days. You couldn't even do that now, probably, after 9/11.
Lesson learned, though. Now, whenever we start talking about a trip, he asks if our passports are up to date! The mission was a wonderful experience for them both, and was nominated that year for the Nobel Peace Prize by the Salvadoran government. And it almost didn't even happen!
